(BREAKING NEWS) HBO Will Sign Anthony Joshua According To Richard Schaefer

What kind of boxing fan are you??? Seems like you don't even want to see THE fight to be made at HW. Maybe you are worried the AMERICAN will come out on top:boxing:[/QUOTE Only money makes fights not fans and I presume this will happen when there's enough money to be made. At this moment in time AJ can make the same amount of money fighting mandatory's. Wilder has had 2 years to build himself with no success, fight fans are not stupid he has done nothing to prove how good he is. In all the time he has not fought for another belt just nothing. British fans love all Good boxers and travel to US regularly to watch US fights, Mike Tyson was a massive draw for British fans but this guy Wilder is a fake and we all know it.

Wilders tv numbers on fox and showtime are both down. Now u think people are gping robot for his fights? When I said 200k that is the ceiling. Ward couldn't even do those numbers and he is more well known and drew better hbo numbers than wilder has ever drawn besides the Stiverne fight. These aren't ppv fighters. U are underestimating the HBO budget. Especially with a crawford and Lomachenko and their undercard fights gone. Takes two to tango. Ward was known and drew what he was able to draw, but don't act as if Kovalev added much to the effort. Still, we'll see

I disagree. Two big-punching, handsome (pause) heavyweights, both with the gift of gab and engaging personalities, basically given from now to August 2018 (both with two featured fights) will, in all likelihood, sell far more than 200k PPV buys, with the rematch doing well north of that (even at 200k homes, you're still looking at $5m going to the promoters off of the US TV). Beyond that, the chances that Wilder crosses the street diminish largely due to the known issues with HBO's boxing budget. Alvarez is likely exclusive to PPV from now on, but HBO doesn't have the boxing budget to keep Golovkin on his exclusive deal (they may try again, but I doubt Golovkin sticks on PPV after the possible Alvarez rematch), keep Kovalev on his exclusive deal, cover whatever it cost to bring Daniel Jacobs over on his seeming three-fight deal, cover whatever it would cost to win the bidding war against Showtime for the longer-term rights to Anthony Joshua, and then cover the cost of winning the bidding war for Wilder too (nevermind the other little fights that they'd consider buying). Parker and Jennings are with Top Rank/ESPN, so there goes another curve in those talks. And even then, none of the fights on your list have enough attention to even sniff PPV in the US). Boxing, especially at the extreme superstar level is about working out a deal that satisfies the superstar without screwing the network; the Floyd deal was clearly a risk, but Floyd had shown enough of a track record that Showtime/CBS were reasonably confident that he'd be able to generate the $450m-$500m over his six fights with them to cover the deal. The bet was made, depending on what you want to believe Floyd generated $210m-$220m on Guerrero/Maidana/Maidana 2/Berto, the Canelo fight generated $150m, and Showtime's share of the Pacquiao PPV revenues were basically $230m. Needed $450m to cover, and ended up with $600m. I don't see how HBO has any chance of covering the deal, but maybe that's just me. Wilders tv numbers on fox and showtime are both down. Now u think people are gping robot for his fights? When I said 200k that is the ceiling. Ward couldn't even do those numbers and he is more well known and drew better hbo numbers than wilder has ever drawn besides the Stiverne fight. These aren't ppv fighters. U are underestimating the HBO budget. Especially with a crawford and Lomachenko and their undercard fights gone.

If HBO signs Joshua, that will create more questions for Joshua as to why he won't fight Wilder. Only now Americans will learn the true Joshua and ask the same question. Joshua signing with HBO will only bring in the big bucks if he beats Wilder. Signing to HBO and giving us anything less than a Ortiz or Wilder is perfect for HBO. Their budget won't be hurt at all. There is no UK crowd here or watching his fights. Now if Joshua were to beat Wilder then Joshua becomes a big time star in boxing. I welcome any ratings that help boxing, but it's too bad that Merchant is old because he would ask Joshua when will he fight Wilder lol. Fans here won't stand for inferior defenses made on American prime time television. They eat that **** up in the UK, but not here. We asked when Holy would fight Lewis, we asked when Mike would fight Lennox, and they will ask Joshua when he will fight Wilder. That 2019 and 2020 bull**** that Joshua was talking won't fly in prime time on HBO if his comp is terrible and I see nobody that can pass for being seen as a challenge outside of Wilder, Ortiz, or Parker.

Showtime is in the same boat. Joshua vs wilder wouldn't del more thst 200k ppv buys in us AT BEST. And who says HBO doesn't get Wilder too? Wilder could end up signing with Hearn and going across the street. It's the best move for his career. Then he has Joshua Parker Jennings Whyte Miller etc all at his disposal I disagree. Two big-punching, handsome (pause) heavyweights, both with the gift of gab and engaging personalities, basically given from now to August 2018 (both with two featured fights) will, in all likelihood, sell far more than 200k PPV buys, with the rematch doing well north of that (even at 200k homes, you're still looking at $5m going to the promoters off of the US TV). Beyond that, the chances that Wilder crosses the street diminish largely due to the known issues with HBO's boxing budget. Alvarez is likely exclusive to PPV from now on, but HBO doesn't have the boxing budget to keep Golovkin on his exclusive deal (they may try again, but I doubt Golovkin sticks on PPV after the possible Alvarez rematch), keep Kovalev on his exclusive deal, cover whatever it cost to bring Daniel Jacobs over on his seeming three-fight deal, cover whatever it would cost to win the bidding war against Showtime for the longer-term rights to Anthony Joshua, and then cover the cost of winning the bidding war for Wilder too (nevermind the other little fights that they'd consider buying). Parker and Jennings are with Top Rank/ESPN, so there goes another curve in those talks. And even then, none of the fights on your list have enough attention to even sniff PPV in the US). Boxing, especially at the extreme superstar level is about working out a deal that satisfies the superstar without screwing the network; the Floyd deal was clearly a risk, but Floyd had shown enough of a track record that Showtime/CBS were reasonably confident that he'd be able to generate the $450m-$500m over his six fights with them to cover the deal. The bet was made, depending on what you want to believe Floyd generated $210m-$220m on Guerrero/Maidana/Maidana 2/Berto, the Canelo fight generated $150m, and Showtime's share of the Pacquiao PPV revenues were basically $230m. Needed $450m to cover, and ended up with $600m. I don't see how HBO has any chance of covering the deal, but maybe that's just me.

All I'm saying is that there is no way for HBO to make their money back, whatever the final number should end up being, on a Anthony Joshua deal, almost precisely because he makes so much money in the UK. Showtime still have spent however much money on airing Joshua's last five fights, and will spend what they need to air the 6th fight and so on for Anthony Joshua, because they know that the Deontay Wilder fight is in hand and a Joshua-Wilder series of fights will likely make back whatever was spent to build Joshua in the US to begin with (with the spectacle of that series also elevating Joshua's other fights into US PPV possibility). Joshua fights three times a year, you stage one US PPV and two matinee fights (day/night in the US; Joshua is exclusively on Sky Box Office in the UK), and you've got enough trade going to make things make sense for everyone involved. HBO laying out $20m-$30m on a six-fight deal, with no real way to make the money back (signing Joshua isn't going to lead to a wave of new sign-ups for HBO, and most of the fights won't be in the US to try PPV), doesn't make sense. Showtime is in the same boat. Joshua vs wilder wouldn't del more thst 200k ppv buys in us AT BEST. And who says HBO doesn't get Wilder too? Wilder could end up signing with Hearn and going across the street. It's the best move for his career. Then he has Joshua Parker Jennings Whyte Miller etc all at his disposal

When did I ever bash Floyd when he said it? Lol.. You can't argue facts and numbers.. Floyd was the biggest boxing star. He's now retired and no American boxer is even remotely close to becoming a household name. AJ is now biggest boxing star.. You can't argue numbers, Floyd wasn't making 20mil, packing out Stadiums and doing 1.5million PPV buys in his 19th fight.You and your cronies dissed Floyd after he told Cotto that he had no fan base stop lying, lmao. The only thing I'm arguing is why this stiff ***** won't fight Wilder. Your 20 mil there isn't 20 mil here. Joshua won't ever see a 200 or 300 mil dollar check for one fight so leave Floyd out of this. Boxing fans don't care about numbers, they care about fights. Joshua isn't a star here. He will only be a star if he beats Wilder so get off of his dick please, lmao.

When Floyd said it you bashed him. Joshua says it and you dick ride the stiff one. Don't worry, Joshua's end is coming. Frauds always get exposed. When did I ever bash Floyd when he said it? Lol.. You can't argue facts and numbers.. Floyd was the biggest boxing star. He's now retired and no American boxer is even remotely close to becoming a household name. AJ is now biggest boxing star.. You can't argue numbers, Floyd wasn't making 20mil, packing out Stadiums and doing 1.5million PPV buys in his 19th fight.

Ha Ha. They ducking Wilder like the damn plague.

Yea because Wilder is the biggest boxer in tune world LMAO. No current American boxer holds any weight.. They are practically unknown. When Floyd said it you bashed him. Joshua says it and you dick ride the stiff one. Don't worry, Joshua's end is coming. Frauds always get exposed.

Interesting

haymon stays losing. hes got wilder figthing stirverne and has to lower the ticket prices its so sh-it. if wilder wants that joshua fight like he claims hes going to have to go to hbo haha-haymon got owned again

The number 35k isnt just a number thrown out by TMZ or any unreliable source.. It's the official number that was released by US immigration. Also another 25k brits travelled for Ricky Hatton v Pacquiao.. So many people travelled it caused delays on hundreds of flights and it was well publicised on the news. 6 of Hatton's last 8 fights were in the US, and only two of those fights drew massive interest in Brits willing to travel for Hatton (with the 2 being the two blockbuster fights). Brits aren't going to travel for non-blockbuster fights.

Hell most of the big prospects coming up right now are Euro or UK specifically. Odds are his biggest fights won't even make sense in the US. But I'd argue Joshua has worldwide appreciation and if Hearn does right by him Vegas and random countries will come calling Wilder in or Wilder out. Joshua has the potential to be that next Tyson or Ali type HW the world knows. Calzaghe has retroactive dreams him and Joshua have similar careers. I think one could argue Joshua has surpassed Joe already or more likely soon will in another 3 to 5 fights. The current course is bigger than Wilder is the thing maybe you aren't trying to see. Hell I like and consider myself a fan of Wilder, but Joshua has a whole level of appeal to fans. If Joshua keeps winning he's gonna be some name in the mouth of people who never watch boxing... except Joshua fights. If Wilder beats Joshua and everyone else out there is gonna be more or less the same guy the next day. Matter of fact if he's lucky he'll be largely known as the guy who KO'd Joshua lol. Boxing is weird like that often. Maybe it's me, but I don't see Vegas getting all that excited about hosting Joshua fighting Joseph Parker or Dillian Whyte or Tony Bellew or Tyson Fury; Europe will likely happily host those fights and US fans will catch the live fights in matinee somewhere. Still, I could be wrong; the spectacle behind Anthony Joshua could get so big that Joshua-TBA could end up as a fighter that Las Vegas clamors for. The current course for Anthony Joshua may be bigger than Deontay Wilder, but to act as if Wilder is a non-factor is a bit much. There paths are different, but less compare Canelo Alvarez and Anthony Joshua; Canelo was beyond bubbling as an attraction, he'd been utilized to build other shows, he'd finally been set out to build his own shows with success, and he'd just defeated Austin Trout in front of 40k fans and a large audience on TV. Now imagine that the Floyd fight didn't happen; no national press tour, no media availabilities that come with Floyd's fights, no extended promotional material in the run up to the PPV etc. How long would it have taken Saul Alvarez to emerge as that superstar were it not for the rub that he got fighting Floyd? Wilder's not Floyd, but he has the cache with the US fight fan to speed up that proceed with the US audience than anyone else that Joshua could fight (beyond Klitschko).

Showtime may have put on better fights over the year, but they just have a second tier type of feel to them and I think Eddie Hearn realizes that. The commentary team, the production, the history, the subscribers are all on HBO's side. Plus they have done a much better job building fighters than Showtime has.

HBO isn't in the business of selling tickets. HBO, as far as boxing anyway, is in the business of making money on TV; folks who have the HBO channel almost exclusively for the boxing content, and whatever money they can make on PPV. The Pulev fight doesn't help HBO in either goal; and frankly, the coming Ortiz fight, Joseph Parker, "Big Baby" Miller, and Dillian Whyte 2 don't help that goal either. 35k Brits (where you grabbed that number from who knows, but whatever) travelled for Ricky Hatton when he was in a blockbuster fight. In the near term, the Wilder fight is the only thing that approaches blockbuster status to inspire such support. The number 35k isnt just a number thrown out by TMZ or any unreliable source.. It's the official number that was released by US immigration. Also another 25k brits travelled for Ricky Hatton v Pacquiao.. So many people travelled it caused delays on hundreds of flights and it was well publicised on the news.

If Hearn takes Joshua to HBO then the Wilder fight would be harder to make, like the Kovalev/Adonis situation. These guys sign with HBO and Toprank so they can lower their risk and seek great reward.

No one knows Pulev, no one wants that fight yet it sold 70k tickets in few hours. Who ever he fights, he will sell out. Just watch when he fights abroad the British fans will travel like crazy. 35k people travelled to the US for Ricky Hatton. HBO isn't in the business of selling tickets. HBO, as far as boxing anyway, is in the business of making money on TV; folks who have the HBO channel almost exclusively for the boxing content, and whatever money they can make on PPV. The Pulev fight doesn't help HBO in either goal; and frankly, the coming Ortiz fight, Joseph Parker, "Big Baby" Miller, and Dillian Whyte 2 don't help that goal either. 35k Brits (where you grabbed that number from who knows, but whatever) travelled for Ricky Hatton when he was in a blockbuster fight. In the near term, the Wilder fight is the only thing that approaches blockbuster status to inspire such support.

Now only if there were other heavy weights to match them up with. It seems like there is only him and Wilder in that division that make in intriguing matchup

lol HBO knows what time it is, now get rid of lampley and stop with all the bias! Come on man. Lampleys an old player. You gotta f*ck with him