Great boxers who were great human beings

Manny pacquiao... Had a problem with gambling, but as far as I know no women beating/prison... Cheats on wife Backs President on Shabu Death Squads Reinstated death penalty Thinks druggies should be executed Refuses his people condoms Helped oust a female politician for exposing the death squad scandal via sex shaming Former Meth head (Shabu) Bad guy.

Edwin Valero was a great guy.

The amount of times he donated money to charities and lets not forget those hostages he saved On top of all that, his struggle and sacrifice against the status quo in the 60s, his bravery as a Muslim, his ability to admit when he was wrong about a cause etc etc

Shawn Porter just seems like a good dude. I don't think I know enough about fighter's personal lives to honestly say tho. Some of these guys seem nice but how the f*ck would I know? Pacquiao, I believe is good, but he's also wronged people close to him like his wife, I mean. You'd be hard pressed to find a truly always honest/good doing athlete, let alone person. Some fighters are just more scum than others. How do you even go about judging the goodness of another? That's a seriously infinite conversation with no right answer. Let's stick with Pacquiao for instance: rumored or admitted (?) adultery, but then people close to him, even those that no longer work with him (Ariza) have genuinely kind things to say about him as a person. Obviously the best people to believe are those close to the athlete and not tabloids, but still you'd be silly to make a saint of an athlete.

most human beings are full of ****, I consider myself a pretty decent n balanced person.. but im full of it as well at times. anyone can put on an act. all of them seem like pretty decent people I try not to get caught in my emotions about someones personality or outside the ring life. everyone has their own story. :rofl: I like this. Anyone who claims to be a good human being should probably be treated with intense scepticism.

Muhammad Ali should be number one. The most important and influential, in a positive manner, boxing personality of them all. The amount of times he donated money to charities and lets not forget those hostages he saved

Who boasted about giving Ali parkinson's later on in life Yeah Frasiers voicemail wasn't that if a great person. It was pretty unsympathetic and f*cked up

Pacquiao is a pos....lol@includeding him Hahaha I mean come on. On top of everything he's done he wants people to be excuted for drug possession. F*ck. Wants them die? I think you're automatically NOT a great person if you want people to DIE

More like a loophole. Even Nazim Richardson said as much. The way the wrap was wrapped was legal in Nevada, California, Puerto Rico, Mexico basically everywhere. " But the thing is this, Tito Trinidad deserves to be in the Hall of Fame because the way Tito got his hands wrapped was legal in other states. It wasn't legal in New York, but it was legal in other states," "See, the way Margarito was getting his hands wrapped, that **** was illegal in MMA and every other sport and in every state. I can see if William was making that argument about Margarito, but with Tito, he just tried to wrap his hands...it could be an honest mistake." Richardson added, "The Tito thing I think was more of ignorance. It was the fact that they were used to wrapping his hands like that all the time and most of the places you fight, like Vegas and everything, it's cool to wrap like that. So when they came to New York, they didn't think nothing of it. They just wrapped his hands the way they always wrap his hands. Well, we working by and abiding by the rules of New York, so I argued the case. But it ain't like the Margarito thing where he was blatantly trying to pull one off. One was ignorance and one was illegal." So, sure an argument can be made about the NY rules (which are a vast minority) and since he fought in places such as Vegas, Puerto Rico, Mexico, France, California, Florida, Italy before he'd been to NYC he'd wrapped his hands a legal way and I don't think you would really expect the rules on something as basic as a hand wrap to be that different in NY. So the "we always wrap that way" is plausible and also legal. Your acting like all the time he fought he cheated which is blatantly incorrect and probably biased. Exactly. I was about to post that whole interview with nazim, but no need to couldnt have said it better myself.

Don't know about great but the Klitschkos always seemed pretty decent

Exactly..... "We always wrap his hands like that" :lol1: More like a loophole. Even Nazim Richardson said as much. The way the wrap was wrapped was legal in Nevada, California, Puerto Rico, Mexico basically everywhere. " But the thing is this, Tito Trinidad deserves to be in the Hall of Fame because the way Tito got his hands wrapped was legal in other states. It wasn't legal in New York, but it was legal in other states," "See, the way Margarito was getting his hands wrapped, that **** was illegal in MMA and every other sport and in every state. I can see if William was making that argument about Margarito, but with Tito, he just tried to wrap his hands...it could be an honest mistake." Richardson added, "The Tito thing I think was more of ignorance. It was the fact that they were used to wrapping his hands like that all the time and most of the places you fight, like Vegas and everything, it's cool to wrap like that. So when they came to New York, they didn't think nothing of it. They just wrapped his hands the way they always wrap his hands. Well, we working by and abiding by the rules of New York, so I argued the case. But it ain't like the Margarito thing where he was blatantly trying to pull one off. One was ignorance and one was illegal." So, sure an argument can be made about the NY rules (which are a vast minority) and since he fought in places such as Vegas, Puerto Rico, Mexico, France, California, Florida, Italy before he'd been to NYC he'd wrapped his hands a legal way and I don't think you would really expect the rules on something as basic as a hand wrap to be that different in NY. So the "we always wrap that way" is plausible and also legal. Your acting like all the time he fought he cheated which is blatantly incorrect and probably biased.

Muhammad Ali should be number one. The most important and influential, in a positive manner, boxing personality of them all. Schmeling was also important and sadly he was sort of dragged along in the Nazi propaganda but he did try and distance himself later and called them out on various issues.

Illegal hand-wrapping cheater. Not exactly.

I was actually going to also say Foreman but according to an ESPN documentary he used to hit women. But it is kind of weird how that is the only documentary that mentions that.

Floyd Mayweather jr

I cant say about the greats of the past as i don't know them but what i can say is that 2 of the most genuine, nicest men in the sport will battle each other this Saturday in Manchester - Ricky Burns and Ant Crolla!

Felix Trinidad

You almost made it. Couldn't cross the finish line without an insult. Meanwhile, you tell me to learn how to spell while using incorrect grammar. "wasn't no saint" - should read, "wasn't a saint". "most of his all around him we're" - WTF are you trying to say here? How about, "most of those around him"? For one thing it's were not we're--as in "we are". You don't need to capitalize "moron". You're welcome. I see a lot of grammar correcting but not a rebuttal . And I'll admit i do need to work on my grammar but as you said we're flawed . Also thank you .

Who boasted about giving Ali parkinson's later on in life No doubt Frazier was bitter towards Ali for the way he was treated by him, but that doesn't make Frazier a bad guy. What he said was in poor taste, but you can't judge the man for how he felt towards Ali or as a man on the whole.

Frazier was a great human being. Helped Ali with money problems. Who boasted about giving Ali parkinson's later on in life