Do you think WADA would casually comment about USADA breaking their rule?
And I’m disappointed. You still haven’t learned the difference between your and you’re.
Well that's what they said in their statement school teacher, for someone who claims to spell so well, your comprehension is disgraceful, nowhere does it say that the ISTUE over rides the other rules, a prior TUE is just that, prior, if it was an emergency, he needed to apply for an emergency TUE, fact of the matter is that usada thought this would never see the light of day, but it did
Shut up, clown. You're too afraid to even quote me and blatantly ask me to leave you alone. You're not even a man. Get out of here, boy.
Calm the fvck down! It's this type "opinionated" attitude that is turning these boards into an SJW type plssing contest over nothing.
Can anyone honestly say that these organizations don't take backhanders? If everyone was clean these people wouldn't have a job, so they have to align with a sport to a certain degree.
Boxing promotors sit in comfy seats while guys attempt to kill each other for entertainment and profit, but that is the other side of the sport. If any agency really wanted to dig into it, they would look at what Lance Armstrong said and use that as a benchmark for all future testing methods.
The sanctioning bodies seem to change remits when they feel like it, with the IBF being the most inconsistent regarding tests and weights etc. All organizations associated with boxing are governed by a single denominator, which is money.
WADA confirmed that under the 2015 World Anti-Doping Code and the International Standard for Therapeutic Use Exemptions (ISTUE), a retroactive TUE CAN be granted for an IV drip to combat dehydration.
Thanks, WADA ;)
if it is monitored by WADA, this wasn't monitored by wadaFAIL
Some reports suggest that administration of IV infusions, including dietary supplement and vitamin ****tails, are being provided to athletes for recuperation, recovery or lifestyle reasons. This medical practice is PROHIBITED AT ALL TIMESwithout PRIOR TUE approval.----------–--- all times, doesn't say but but but the istue
WADA confirmed that under the 2015 World Anti-Doping Code and the International Standard for Therapeutic Use Exemptions (ISTUE), a retroactive TUE CAN be granted for an IV drip to combat dehydration. “For a case that WOULD BE monitored by WADA, yes the ISTUE could allow for intravenous infusions to be used in instances of dehydration”, a WADA spokesperson told the Sports Integrity Initiative. HOWEVER, the spokesperson added: “This case is NOT ONE THAT IS MONITORED by WADA because the World Boxing Council is not a signatory to the Code. We understand that USADA was contracted to conduct the anti-doping program for this fight
Why are you still posting this? Doesn't that prove that, ACCORDING TO WADA RULES, IT COULD BE DONE.
Do you understand that? They told you that this can be done according to their rules. Now you're saying that USADA can do what they want? Ok. Then still...WHAT THE FVCK IS THE PROBLEM IF USADA CAN DO WHAT THEY WANT, AND THEY CHOSE TO FOLLOW WADA'S RULES???
Give it up.
It needs to be monitored by WADA, was it monitored ,NO, was it given in an appropriate medical setting, NO, was there an alternative treatment available, YES, for mild dehydration he needed a prior TUE, did he have that, NO. ------------------ but bu bu bu but the istue
WADA confirmed that under the 2015 World Anti-Doping Code and the International Standard for Therapeutic Use Exemptions (ISTUE), a retroactive TUE can be granted for an IV drip to combat dehydration. “For a case that would be monitored by WADA, yes the ISTUE could allow for intravenous infusions to be used in instances of dehydration”,
WADA rules strictly, prohibit IV outside of medical settings, on a playing field it has to be an emergency, a physician had to have ordered the IV, not a paramedic, it wasn't an emergency! Seeing it wasn't an emergency, why didn't he go to hospital for the IV, there was an alternative legal treatment available, WADA didn't monitor the process, your a fool
WADA confirmed that under the 2015 World Anti-Doping Code and the International Standard for Therapeutic Use Exemptions (ISTUE), a retroactive TUE can be granted for an IV drip to combat dehydration. “For a case that would be monitored by WADA, yes the ISTUE could allow for intravenous infusions to be used in instances of dehydration”, a WADA spokesperson told the Sports Integrity Initiative. However, the spokesperson added: “This case is not one that is monitored by WADA because the World Boxing Council is not a signatory to the Code. We understand that USADA was contracted to conduct the anti-doping program for this fight------------ look at that, usada are saying mayweathers case WASNT monitored by WADA, so usada could do want they want with no worry of critisizm, , can you show me where usada released the information of the IV first as you stated, the first I ever heard of it was from haulers article, source please,
In case of an Adverse Analytical Finding for hCG, a comment shall be added to the Test Report describing the hCG finding and recommending the ADO to advise the Athlete to undergo clinical investigations to exclude any pathological cause for the elevated urinary hCG (see Appendix 1);
----------- this is a WADA example of a clinical investigation TRANNYNY, it doesn't mean a medical clinic
I think you're missing the point of what i was saying.
Say if VADA were catching people at a 30:1 ratio compared to USADA, then i'd have to say there's something quite a miss there. It could be that it was the truth, but it's very unlikely that VADA would end up with that many dirty tests compared to USADA. Very, very unlikely.
I don't know what the statistics are in reality, it was just making a point that if they are wildly different between the two organisations, then i'd have to assume something is not right.
But maybe you're more trusting/naive than i am.
Bro they are testing completely different people. Its simply impossible for me to let you talk me into going along with this narrative that they "are suspicious because they havent caught anyone" I dont care how you break it down, or type it up. They have to test someone who is DIRTY, in order for them to "catch him"
In other words, maybe everyone that Vada tested, broke the rules. Maybe everyone that USADA tested, stayed true to the rules.
You cant just make up suspicion out of thin air, because one agency caught people, and the other did not, because maybe the agency that caught people, tested dirty people. While the agency that DIDNT, tested clean people.
This entire conversation is pure silliness.
HOW SWAY the facts support it, usada only tests during camp and vada is stricter and 365
VADA is only 365 if the fighters sign up fpr that.
Most VADA testing is only once contracts for a specific fight are signed and both fighters agree.
Governing bodies and commissions should make agreement to year-round random testing a condition of obtaining and holding of a pro licence.
1st offence = minimum 1 year ban (longer at commission discretion)
2nd offence = minimum 3yr ban (longer etc.)
3rd offence = manadatory lifestime ban.
Commissions and/or fighters should initiate legal action against other fighters caught cheating. Cheating in combat sports can result in career and life threatening injury or death; this isn't running, swimming or cycling, people are getting their brains damaged here!
Dude, I just said that it could have been any of the Or's.
For all we know, USADA just said it's ok because they were present for the whole thing and it's not against NSAC's rules.
The question is, who gives a shlt? What we really care about is if he was using PED's right?
For the longest you guys said he announces fights late to cycle off, now ur saying he cycled on the day before the fight. WTF?????
Do you really care if he had an injection of saline and vitamins? I don't give a shlt. If he abused PED's, his record should be expunged. That's it! But no one is stepping up with anything close to proof that he took PED's.
Yep he was microdosing
It's all good man. Like you said, if these guys juiced, it will come out.
Respect.
You to, take care. At the end of the day, we all have our favorites.
Jesus Christ. Stop believing bullshlt.
Why is this important? USADA has tested Mayweather something like 140 times. You don't think that's enough for an athlete biological passport???
Bennet comparing his dlck size to Tygart. Good for him.
Christine Ayotte, head of a WADA lab, said this about Jon Jones T/E ratios of .29, .35, and .19 Far lower than Mayweather's levels!
Time will tell.
keep trying to reply and getting an error, anyway.
Jesus Christ. Stop believing bullshlt.
So you are saying that VADA Is not cheaper? Again, why would a smart business man such as Floyd pay more money for the exact same service?
Why is this important? USADA has tested Mayweather something like 140 times. You don't think that's enough for an athlete biological passport???
What do you mean, why Is It Important? Floyd made a career out of being the poster boy for "cleaning up the sport" Shouldn't he have actually followed through with what he was already claiming to be doing?
Bennet comparing his dlck size to Tygart. Good for him.
So It was obvious that It wasn't accepted by Bennett as you said previously.
Christine Ayotte, head of a WADA lab, said this about Jon Jones T/E ratios of .29, .35, and .19 Far lower than Mayweather's levels!
So, because someone else's was lower, means Floyd's wasn't low?
Time will tell.
You dudes act like NSAC is an authority of dehydration. How many boxers have been deemed to be dehydrated by NSAC? Can you name one. Just one. Surely it must have happened at least once since NSAC was created.
You keep bringing up emergency.
I thought we already established that it said emergency OR!
Just stop already. Damn. Or just answer. How do you take PED's and dilute it with an IV and pass at a WADA lab that has checked your urine to make sure it is not diluted???
Tell what part of OR does he qualify for, he said his urine was darker than usual, mild dehydration, he was checked at the weigh in 2 hours prior to the IV BY A DOCTOR, it's a simple case that he wanted an IV to rehydrate after the weigh in and usada was the accomplice in that action
Oh, you have his medical records?
1. It could have been an acute medical condition
2. insufficient time to apply
3. Rules permitted it....
It could be any of those. USADA already came out and said the DCO witnessed the reasoning for it. It was his physical condition. Floyd stated his urine was extremely dark. If you want to find out, why don't you hack into WADA's database and get the records. I'm sure we will all thank you for it.
But what does any of it matter? As I told you before, an IV is used to DILUTE a urine sample.
The DCO and the labs both checked the urine for dilution. That should end this already. Unless you can tell me the process of how he used PED's and got away with it.
Floyd said he was dehydrated in the video, if it was an emergency he wouldn't have been allowed to fight, he was checked at the weigh in and was deemed fit so it could only be mild dehydration, the only allowable remedy via WADA rules is drinking water, usada is dirty
They always blame Wilder when VADA says the opponents are dirty...yet claim VADA is the best!!!
who are these mysterious posters who claim "wilder is at fault for his opponents taking PEDs and he must have given it to them" because that is what you are insinuating.
I have seen many posters claim wilder does not want to fight the best and his inactivity, refusing to fight the likes of Whyte etc is a factor for that.
Also, wilders recent outbursts about ortiz, even with the extenuating circumstances that could still allow the fight to occur are another problem but I have never seen anyone post its his fault Pov and Ortiz have cheated.