Ward went up in weight and beat a p4p fighter in his prime KOVALEV. Mayweather never beat a fighter in their prime as good and dangerous as kovalev while moving up a weight. FACTS. Canelo was the only one who comes close but he was weight drained and not as good as he is now.
Best wins.
Manny - Koed. Much smaller. Shorter reach and height. Huge physical disadvantage.
Mosley - Past prime.
De la hoya - way past prime.
Canelo - 21 and weight drained.
Corralles - not on kovalev's level and a walking corpse.
Lol, yeah Floyd is 4-11 with a 59" reach and weighs 135 on fight night. That silly tale of the tape making stuff up again..
Are you trolling? I mean when we have a conversation about the circumstantial disadvantages of Mayweather's fights, we find ourselves saying things about his dominance, that we dont actually want to admit to; That he is by far the greatest of all time, and it made no sense for him to white wash guys like that. Again, if you put a 37yr old SRL in the ring against a guy who is 22yrs old and 15lbs heavier, he would get killed in the ring. He def wouldnt walk him down without getting touched, like Floyd.
And tail of the tape isnt lying, its just inaccurate. I thought that was obvious to everyone. Floyd isnt taller with longer arms than anyone he faced. Pac and JMM are the only opponents in recent times, that he towered over. And to me, Pac had longer arms than Floyd.
But whatever. Just know that its a disservice to the sport, when you are THAT good, against THAT caliber of opposition, and no one wants to admit that your the greatest of all time by SEVERAL lightyears. As in, its NOT EVEN A DEBATE!
Corrales was in no way better than kovalev. Hell no. You're nuts.
Light years better. Plus, Corrales never quit, always went out on his shield. When he lost he didn't go crazy either, just kept it moving.
Skill wise, Kovaquit does the same shít. He's not versatile and throws the same combo over and over. Dude doesn't know how to cut off the ring and can't take a punch. Corrales could take a punch, end up on queer street, and somehow turn the tables on you. Kovaquit, just quits.
Kovaquit has no stand-alone left hook. He needs to land a combo for his hook to be dangerous. All he has is a right hand and who doesn't have a right hand namsayin?
Here's the thing, Kovalev had only beaten Hopkins and Pascal basically but probably should have gotten the decision against Ward in the first fight. Maybe Ward is just not that good?
Ward is great and would have been fighter of the decade if he didnt retire. Ward had Kovalev figured out by the second half of their first fight.
durant is a hofer.....kovalev isnt and to compare them is crazy cause Kovalev isnt talented enough or proven enough so we didn't really know how good he was.
Here's the thing, Kovalev had only beaten Hopkins and Pascal basically but probably should have gotten the decision against Ward in the first fight. Maybe Ward is just not that good?
Floyd on paper is ALWAYS outmatched. 15lbs weight disadvatage, would get SRL killed in the ring if he had to do it as often as Floyd, and thats a fact. Thats what makes him great. This dude HUMILIATED those guys. This is a 130lbs fighter, who crawled to 154, and comes in the ring and DOMINATES guys who are MUCH to big, durable, strong for him. He cant even phase them, yet he makes it look EASY.
He is the greatest of all time and its not even close. And Floyd is shorter with much shorter arms than everyone he faces. Boxrec and tail of the tape claims he is taller than everyone with longer arms but that is nonsense. Canelo, Ghost, Mosley, Berto, ALL of them are WAAAAY taller, with MUCH longer arms. Floyd has short stubby arms.
And reach advantages are overrated anyway. When we're standing right in front of eachother, I wont notice you having 3inches on me in arm length. Floyd surely doesnt.
Either we are close enough to hit eachother, or we arent.
Lol, yeah Floyd is 4-11 with a 59" reach and weighs 135 on fight night. That silly tale of the tape making stuff up again..
SMH . . . . this conversation might be over your head.durant is a hofer.....kovalev isnt and to compare them is crazy cause Kovalev isnt talented enough or proven enough so we didn't really know how good he was.
:rofl: when was this, in a fantasy land you made up on your own?
floyd couldn't make a welterweight catch weight against marquez and it cost hima f#ckload of money at a time when he had a lien on his income fro the IRS and was in a tough spot financially. floyd was a natural welterweight for well over a decade.
This is simple things you can look up easily. Did you know that JMM, and Pac were the smallest guys Floyd has faced in recent yrs? Did you know that Floyd's weight is easy to look up?
The highest he has weighed in recent times, was when he got on a scale post retirement, before the Mgregor fight, he weighed 156. Before that, for the Cotto fight at the weigh in, he was 152. On a WWE scale, with clothes on and jewelry once, he weighed 156lbs. And that was the highest. On fight night, he ranged from 148 to 150lbs.
For the Ortiz fight, he was 150, and Ortiz was 164lbs. For the Canelo fight he was 150lbs, and Canelo was 165lbs. Marcos was his biggest size disadvantage. He was 148lbs, and Chino was 165lbs. Berto was 157lbs, and Floyd was 150.
Shane was 160lbs, and Floyd was 148lbs. And the weight for Shane was identical to Ghost, who was 160lbs, while Floyd was 148lbs.
You look stoopid.
Yet almost everytime he was never out matched physically. Floyd was the same height as most of his opponents if not taller with a longer reach.
Floyd on paper is ALWAYS outmatched. 15lbs weight disadvatage, would get SRL killed in the ring if he had to do it as often as Floyd, and thats a fact. Thats what makes him great. This dude HUMILIATED those guys. This is a 130lbs fighter, who crawled to 154, and comes in the ring and DOMINATES guys who are MUCH to big, durable, strong for him. He cant even phase them, yet he makes it look EASY.
He is the greatest of all time and its not even close. And Floyd is shorter with much shorter arms than everyone he faces. Boxrec and tail of the tape claims he is taller than everyone with longer arms but that is nonsense. Canelo, Ghost, Mosley, Berto, ALL of them are WAAAAY taller, with MUCH longer arms. Floyd has short stubby arms.
And reach advantages are overrated anyway. When we're standing right in front of eachother, I wont notice you having 3inches on me in arm length. Floyd surely doesnt.
Either we are close enough to hit eachother, or we arent.
The TS is always posting “bait” threads like this it’s pretty obvious that he’s trolling, or just DKSAB. You could just take the first 10 years of Floyds 20 years and it’s still obviously much better than Wards resume. I say this as a big fan of Ward. Geez some of you hate Floyd so bad. You’d think he stole your GF or something. You guys are too emotional the dudes retired now so move on and stop crying just because he embarrassed all your favourite fighters.
Ward went up in weight and beat a p4p fighter in his prime KOVALEV. Mayweather never beat a fighter in their prime as good and dangerous as kovalev while moving up a weight. FACTS. Canelo was the only one who comes close but he was weight drained and not as good as he is now.
Best wins.
Manny - Koed. Much smaller. Shorter reach and height. Huge physical disadvantage.
Mosley - Past prime.
De la hoya - way past prime.
Canelo - 21 and weight drained.
Corralles - not on kovalev's level and a walking corpse.
those b1tches always lying about Canelo's age.Saul was 23 when he fought Mayweather
Gotta love boxingscene and all these fanboys who know nothing about the sport but want to talk about everything. It makes me laugh every single day because I don’t know if it’s a joke or they really believe it.
Yea. 2 professional fighters who've fought guys 20lbs heavier than them were scared smh.
I don't even know why we're responding to you. You're in the red for a reason lol
I'm only asking the questions, why are you acting like such a vagina. I wasn't attacking you nor am I attacking any fighter.
The simple question is why didn't the fight between Mayweather and Pac happen much earlier? Did one or both fear each other? If Mayweather saw nothing to fear in Pac why wouldn't he just go with the same testing that Pac had undergone before?
Oh I'm sure I got my red from the plethora of dbags that are on this site. BTW there are some very good ones who aren't emotional btches. Not sure you are one because you seem to have got your panties in a wad. If you can't handle it you don't have to respond. If anyone questioning anything Floyd bothers you, you don't have to read it. I'm not stopping you from wearing your TBE jammies to bed. LOL!
More excuses lol
I responded to this but I will again for you.
I said I think Mayweather always beats Corrales. I said it wasn't Mayweather's fault if Corrales came in the fight a bit distracted. The guy was going to prison, maybe you don't think that plays a role in your mental make up but I tend to think it might. He also had trouble making weight which never was a problem before and after his stint in the joint. Again not Mayweather's problem.
There are plenty of fights of Mayweather where there was nothing to ponder. By the way how many times have I heard about Mayweather's shoulder as an "excuse" for his first fight with Castillo? I don't discount that.