Golovkin without the roids is not as good but still #1 in the division

^That's still not how it works. It does not let you balloon in muscle and give you magical weigh-in powers. Also, the Sonnen thing makes no sense because, if they are not on something on fight-night, how are they cutting easier? If anything, you are in trouble after a cycle because your hormones are very out of wack and you are more prone to bloating. PED-gained muscle doesn't de-hydrate and re-hydrate any different than muscle gained through careful nutrition, genetics, and training. I've got a lot of personal experience in this area and don't like seeing the misinformation people spread out there. They can help you get bigger and leaner. yes. They are not changing your weigh-ins though unless the contest is devoid of testing. OK, that;s just what I heard from Sonnen, and you know he';s popped a bunch of times, so took his word for it. Not a PED expert, so you're probably right. And I wasn't saying it gives you magical weigh in strength, he was saying something along the lines of, it allows you to regain all the lost weight through your weight cut, and gain mostly all of your muscle, and weight back, with barely any muscle and weight loss from cutting weight, and dehydrating, and starving yourself in general. But you're the expert on this, so not gonna say you're wrong. Just think it's stupid for the TS to troll with such a dumb ass title, and accuse GGG of PEDs, and assume Canelo's this clean angel.

I'm not talking about a fighter using it on fight night. How stupid would you have to be to use PEDs on fight night? I'm talking about how easily you can cut weight, and retain all the muscle, and weight come fight night. Chael Sonnen was talking about how guys on PEDs can balloon up like crazy after they weigh in, and it's a good indicator of PED use. And yes, we all know it's used during camp, and one of the main benefits of PEDs is recovery. ^That's still not how it works. It does not let you balloon in muscle and give you magical weigh-in powers. Also, the Sonnen thing makes no sense because, if they are not on something on fight-night, how are they cutting easier? If anything, you are in trouble after a cycle because your hormones are very out of wack and you are more prone to bloating. PED-gained muscle doesn't de-hydrate and re-hydrate any different than muscle gained through careful nutrition, genetics, and training. I've got a lot of personal experience in this area and don't like seeing the misinformation people spread out there. They can help you get bigger and leaner. yes. They are not changing your weigh-ins though unless the contest is devoid of testing.

Please explain how that is a good indicator. Actually, I'll save you the time, because you can't. Bro-science dictates that fighters come into the ring "on drugs". It doesn't work that way. The use it in-camp for recovery. Not on fight-night for strength as most seem to believe. It's not going to affect anything about the weigh-in. I'm not talking about a fighter using it on fight night. How stupid would you have to be to use PEDs on fight night? I'm talking about how easily you can cut weight, and retain all the muscle, and weight come fight night. Chael Sonnen was talking about how guys on PEDs can balloon up like crazy after they weigh in, and it's a good indicator of PED use. And yes, we all know it's used during camp, and one of the main benefits of PEDs is recovery.

A good indicator of PED use is when fighters blow up after they weigh in. Kind of like Canelo does hmmm...... And like GGG doesn't. Please explain how that is a good indicator. Actually, I'll save you the time, because you can't. Bro-science dictates that fighters come into the ring "on drugs". It doesn't work that way. The use it in-camp for recovery. Not on fight-night for strength as most seem to believe. It's not going to affect anything about the weigh-in.

lol...............

97G is not as good when he's not fighting bums & cab drivers

Even when the entire sports world started getting exposed for all these athletes using PEDs , you still see fools who act in disbelief when someone suggests a top athlete using something. It's so bizarre how naive some people really are

A good indicator of PED use is when fighters blow up after they weigh in. Kind of like Canelo does hmmm...... And like GGG doesn't.

What? You didn't see how his body changed once he started doing VADA testing? Or was it only age? I don't think it was age alone... He looks like a tank. Something seems fishy about him, but I can be wrong. That's why I said possibly. Look mate, he is one of the top athletes in the world, just because you don't understand some people are genetically superior than others doesn't mean that the guy is on steroids! He is in his physical prime and is fighting at his natural weight.. End of, now do one!

There is another thread accusing Ward of being in steroids. I don't care for Ward I like G but accusing a boxer of being on steroids just to get attention is childish.

He didn't beat Canelo

What an idiot thread.

Well I have Canelo abandoning VADA testing for a fight. **** you. Ah yes, the fight in which Smith was the one who submitted the paperwork to withdraw from.VADA testing. Yes that fight. Yes another fighter withdraws from testing, but Canelo is the one suspected of roids. Another great deduction by Maxi.

No clear evidence. Just circumstantial. The biggest fight of his career was stalled for years because of the refusal by his team to undergo full random testing. First he was completely ok with it. Then once all the other things were negotiated the drug testing became an issue. He wanted to be tested only 3 times, then not 30 days out, then 22 days out, the 14, then not on fight night. Etc etc. If Pacquiao was not guilty his team sure made him look like he was. But that's is old news. 8 years old news. Here you're the one saying Canelo is on roids. What evidence even circumstantial do you have? Other than the Maxi eyeball test? Well I have Canelo abandoning VADA testing for a fight. **** you.

Do you have any evidence of Pacquiao using roids? No clear evidence. Just circumstantial. The biggest fight of his career was stalled for years because of the refusal by his team to undergo full random testing. First he was completely ok with it. Then once all the other things were negotiated the drug testing became an issue. He wanted to be tested only 3 times, then not 30 days out, then 22 days out, the 14, then not on fight night. Etc etc. If Pacquiao was not guilty his team sure made him look like he was. But that's is old news. 8 years old news. Here you're the one saying Canelo is on roids. What evidence even circumstantial do you have? Other than the Maxi eyeball test?

So in other words no evidence, but since you dislike him, he must be on roids. Let me guess his fight night weight was 200lbs while GGG was 162. Do you have any evidence of Pacquiao using roids?

What? You didn't see how his body changed once he started doing VADA testing? Or was it only age? I don't think it was age alone... He looks like a tank. Something seems fishy about him, but I can be wrong. That's why I said possibly. So in other words no evidence, but since you dislike him, he must be on roids. Let me guess his fight night weight was 200lbs while GGG was 162.

Broccoli Rob is Broccoli Rob. Andy Bernard is the Boner Champ.

what???? ... What? You didn't see how his body changed once he started doing VADA testing? Or was it only age? I don't think it was age alone... Do you have any evidence that Canelo was on roids or is this another one of your retarted assumptions? He looks like a tank. Something seems fishy about him, but I can be wrong. That's why I said possibly.

Do you have any evidence that Canelo was on roids or is this another one of your retarted assumptions?