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Ok. Seems like a copout. You have made plenty of comments where you opined on the actions of others. No need to discuss further. :pat: I don’t know why other fans say what they say. How is that a copout?

Don’t know, don’t care what other fans say. They don’t speak for me, I don’t speak for them. Ok. Seems like a copout. You have made plenty of comments where you opined on the actions of others. No need to discuss further.

I am not contesting anything you said. However, it is not right that you avoided my question and pivoted to the difference in the number of power punches. Whenever these people score fights there has always been a minimal difference in power punches but the "jabber" has landed more total punches. Usually, they go with the person that landed the harder shots. So, again while I respect the points you made, can you please answer the question-why did the GGG fans suddenly give more value to jabs when they did power punches? Don’t know, don’t care what other fans say. They don’t speak for me, I don’t speak for them.

If posters criticise the jab then I would say they don't understand boxing, jab to set up shots, jab to keep opponents off you, jab to clear a path for exiting on the ropes, jab to feint, jab is very under rated, as the commentators said in the fight, canelo had abandoned his jab Well it isn't so much that they don't know boxing. That is only about 20% of it. the other 80% is they hate Floyd so whatever he did, they would go with what the other guy did. Now that it is a guy they love jabbing, they are talking about how the jab was responsible for the victory. So I have no issue with anyone scoring this fight for GGG. However, there are some posters whose scores reflect a completely different scoring systme then I have seen them use. I am questioning those people.

He landed like 5 more power punches. That category is a wash. You guys keep saying he landed more power shots like there was a 75 punch landed difference. When the difference is down to single digits, its really not a matter of who landed more, it comes down to who had the most effective punches. Golovkin did by a wide margin. Canelo was getting tagged and made to move back several times. Canelo hit G with a shot that puts out anyone else, and Gennady walked through like it never happened. I am not contesting anything you said. However, it is not right that you avoided my question and pivoted to the difference in the number of power punches. Whenever these people score fights there has always been a minimal difference in power punches but the "jabber" has landed more total punches. Usually, they go with the person that landed the harder shots. So, again while I respect the points you made, can you please answer the question-why did the GGG fans suddenly give more value to jabs when they did power punches?

He landed like 5 more power punches. That category is a wash. You guys keep saying he landed more power shots like there was a 75 punch landed difference. When the difference is down to single digits, its really not a matter of who landed more, it comes down to who had the most effective punches. Golovkin did by a wide margin. Canelo was getting tagged and made to move back several times. Canelo hit G with a shot that puts out anyone else, and Gennady walked through like it never happened. These same people using compubox to defend Canelo are the same ones that fault compubox as being inaccurate when the numbers work against their preferred fighter. Robbie Barrett, who happens to be the single most retarded poster on this board asked the other day how anyone could have had GGG winning the 1st round. GGG controlled the entire first round with the jab. He than argued that the jabs were pretty much equal, yet compubox clearly shows GGG at 13/25 and Canelo at 5/13. Not remotely close. These people use compubox when It benefits their argument and label It as Inaccurate when It doesn't. That Is boxingscene for you.

The only "fans" scoring this for Canelo were either biased Canelo fans, or Floyd fans who backed Canelo. In their delusional minds, they think that if Canelo beats GGG, then Floyd beats GGG since he has a win over Canelo. Only in the twisted mind of a Mayweather fan do we get this sort of cross-over appeal that suits their agenda. It Is no coincidence that the majority of Floyd fans thought Canelo won. You are 100% correct In your analysis.

I don't know what being the champ has to do with winning a round. Landing more punches and being the "aggressor", ok. GGG would land more jabs and Canelo more power punches. The posters that usually criticize the jab and favor the harder punches are now going the other way. Why the change? He landed like 5 more power punches. That category is a wash. You guys keep saying he landed more power shots like there was a 75 punch landed difference. When the difference is down to single digits, its really not a matter of who landed more, it comes down to who had the most effective punches. Golovkin did by a wide margin. Canelo was getting tagged and made to move back several times. Canelo hit G with a shot that puts out anyone else, and Gennady walked through like it never happened.

I'm an Aussie, no investment either way, I put that up about 3 days before the fight after reading a post about how canelo would Ko ggg, simply to show canelo has had chicken leg, he has good whiskers now, porter and floyd are the only ones I've seen so far who picked canelo, apart from the bleeding obvious Oscar and Bhopal the very vast majority picked ggg, it seem to me most of the threads that have been made are trying to talk people in to believing canelo won That show an agenda too. When you are a boxing fan with no investment in either guy then you wouldn't be offended by anyone else opinion/interpretations of the fight. But it seems anyone that had it for Canelo or anyone that had it a draw must be a Mayweather fan to some of these plonkers. It's like saying all the people that scored it for GGG are Pacquiao fans. Does that even make any sense? At the end of the day people score it the way they see it, are some people biase? Of course but there are genuine posters and other who score it the way they see it.

It hurt people's pride that they predicted Canelo would win and he didn't. In their eyes, he would easily outbox a "limited brawler" like GGG. When they realized GGG was a much better boxer than they thought, and their "great Mexican warrior" was reduced to a pitter pat running machine on Saturday night, it cut them deep. They can never admit they were wrong. The draw and the Byrd card give them vindication.

Barrett gone missing when the hard questions are asked

Just like most bodybuilder fans have never actually properly took to the extent of being a bodybuilder, you don't need to have done something to comment on something as much as I disagree with them they have their right to have an opinion. When I say box I mean literally box, as in go in a boxing gym and learn ie padwork and sparring, not actual competition Its like a bodybuilding fan whos never worked out before and been a couch potato all their lives. Not saying they cant be knowledgeable but if youve learnt the craft somewhat you do get a different perspective on what youre watching, because you can relate on what fighters do in the ring.

No answer yet issac Barrett, what's wrong *****

Why did the Aside, the new ppv King, the saviour of boxing get boooood, scared to answer nuffy? Posted the same question again because you have failed to answer it twice so far

Why did the Aside, the new ppv King, the saviour of boxing get boooood, scared to answer nuffy?

You opening post is about boxers opinions. I posted 3 ATG's opinions. Now you trying to say their opinion doesn't matter, which destroys your own thread. :pat: 2 are Mexican, what don't you understand nuffy80+ % picked ggg

The fight was competitive. No real outrage was directed towards 2 of 3 of the scorecards, which had the fight very close. One with GGG up by the thinnest of margins and the other had the fight a tie. A minority of people scored the fight for Canelo in a close fashion, which is probably genuinely how some of them saw the fight and only differs by a round or 2 from the opinion that most people felt was reasonable. This does not strike me as obviously fit to an agenda. I thought GGG won the fight, as do many others. But almost everyone who thought so thought GGG won a close fight. It strikes me as really funny when people admit that they scored 7-5ish and then act like they cannot imagine at all how anyone would score the fight the other way. When in reality, it doesn't take much at all for someone to see a close round or two differently than you saw it. Probably the fairest outcome would be 7-5 GGG in my book, so it doesn't shock me if some people have 7-5 Canelo and definitely doesn't shock me that some people thought it was even. I get it. I just don't agree.

Chavez Sr is a Golovkin nuthugger that wanted Golovkin to win. :dunce: :pat: And a Mexican that loves his country, why did canelo get boooood nuffy

The only "fans" scoring this for Canelo were either biased Canelo fans, or Floyd fans who backed Canelo. In their delusional minds, they think that if Canelo beats GGG, then Floyd beats GGG since he has a win over Canelo. Only in the twisted mind of a Mayweather fan do we get this sort of cross-over appeal that suits their agenda. Agreed, it's the same posters all the time

The worst are the guys who told the forum, for what 18 months?, that GGG was hype and was going to be beaten up and stopped when he stepped it up against Canelo. But then when Canelo got what is being viewed as a controversial draw..they spent the next few days in over jubilant mood. The sense of relief is there, they never really had faith in their man/prediction. According to them GGG was going to be 'exposed'. So, in their eyes GGG did better than they expected regardless..but yeah, he's still been 'exposed' according to them because he didn't knock GGG out. Even though they strongly predicted a Canelo KO. BoxingScene eh? :pat: Agreed and it like they're talking themselves into a win