Prime Floyd Mayweather vs Prime Paul Williams at 147

A myth that you people keep spewing so that Floyd's accomplishment seems better than it actually is. Was Floyd not prime when he fought Judah? Was Floyd not prime when he KO'ed ricky? Was Floyd not priem when he fought Oscar Dela Hoya? Stop making a fact out of a myth in order to make Floyd greater than one would consider. Nope. Floyd's prime ended after he beat Gatti.

You are full of shlt. PWill was calling out Pac hard. You just gonna duck and deflect from the link I posted huh? You aren't fooling anybody. Are gonna beg for a draw again now??? You're being a hypocrite. No one was calling for the Pac fight so Pac didn't have to fight PWill? Oh yea? People were calling for the Pac/PWill fight just as much as they were calling for the Mayweahter/PWill fight (both being not very much). So don't try to pass off that bullshlt. Then you try to justify your bullshlt by saying it should have happened with one because they had the same manager, but not the other. LMAO. Check it out: 2007: Floyd beats De La Hoya 2 Months later: PWill beats Margarito (That's when he first becomes noteworthy) Floyd's next fight: Ricky Hatton 2 months later: PWill's next fight? Loss to Carlos Quintana So when the fvck was this fight to be made, huh? You're a piece of shlt. Check this out! From June 2008 til May 2010, PWill was on a 6 fight win streak. He and Pacquiao both want to make a fight for November 2010 Pacquiao chooses Bumgarito who was 1 fights from being annihilated by Mosley and being banned for a year because he was fighting with Bricks in his gloves. At a catchweight where PWill was willing to meet at 147. So who was ducking, bltch???? And of course, tell that PWill went on record saying Floyd didn't duck him, but you claimed to know what he was thinking and said he was lying. Lmaoooo. I'm gonna keep kicking your ass bltch, because all of my info is verified fact and all you have is speculation from your own fantasies. Dayum. Straight savage yo LOL

can't be as bad as regurgitating the same lame excuses for winning a fight Excuses for winning a fight? Hahahahahahahahaha....

It's always the same old sad stories with you cry babies. Sad. In they end that is all they can do. If they actually were honest about all that happened, they'd end up having to give Floyd credit for simply being better than all of these HOF'ers, which most of them will never do. Think about it-we've all been told these fighters are warriors who will fight anyone at anytime. Yet why not Floyd? We hear about all the guys who are the "most avoided ever". Uhh, show me where they were more avoided than Floyd. All of these fighters showed bravery by stepping in with bigger men, yet toothaches, needle fear, etc, keep them from fighting Floyd. Floyd was a non entity, fighting in casinos and tiny crap arenas. So none of these guys would fight him.He did what he needed to do to become the star he always wanted to be. Then he treated them the same way they treated him. That is why they are really upset-he did it his way and it worked when his haters said it wouldn't.

It's always the same old sad stories with you cry babies. Sad. can't be as bad as regurgitating the same lame excuses for winning a fight

always thought it would be a good match up but Williams flaws Floyd would capitalize on with counter punches and quickness over Williams heavy output

after reading this load of nonstop garbage, its safe to say that: negro you need to put your big draws on.... you are truly bugging floyd money ain't take on every hof'er, and atg in their primes and left no doubt about any reservations anybody had about him, and in the case of Williams and even Margarito, fights could have been made, so get your tissue, people have good reason to say he avoided those guys for one reason or another, that is well documented and no flimsy a** excuse you offer up is gonna change that... the truth is, he picked and chose the right time to fight all of the best guys on his resume, usually after they have been beat down already or ko'd, plus had to have every conceivable advantage from ring, to gloves, and whatever else..and you know it and can't justify it with everything being the other guys fault...you captain sav-a-floyd, b**ch made asses... the real is, had he found the time to fight these guys when they were prime, then we wouldn't be having these discussions now would we...especially with a guy like Williams, who was in his weight class, in his era, and the whole nine, but Floyd couldn't shrink him down to his height so i guess we got no fight... It's always the same old sad stories with you cry babies. Sad.

wrong again...i don't bring these things up...i just give my take on the situation, and this isn't just any old fantasy fight...this is a fight that actually could have taken place because the fighter in question was actually fighting in floyd's era, in floyd's division.., and would have been potentially next had floyd not taken a vaca after ricky hatton...hard to get around all of that... and who said williams would beat floyd...only thing anyone with any sense said here is it ain't that cut and dry, because your boy would be potentially in there with a guy whose style would be a nightmare for him and could possibly have his number....who has a significant height/reach advantage, and is a natural ww who was pretty durable...we've seen guys like jones and mosley take on similar style nightmares in tarver and forrest, and didn't come out on top...you think that wasn't on the mayweather camp's minds in matching your boy up properly? only an excuse making, caption sav-a-floyd type such as yourself would even make an attempt at dismissing all of that look, just make sure the actual guy fights in the fantasy fight. you described a fantasy PWill taking on Floyd in this fantasy fight. And when you discuss all of his attributes can we just keep in mind floyd reduces the punch output of all his opponents, tall or short. There are very few 6'0 WW ever-Breland, hearns, Pwill- I'm sure I'm missing some- so how can you say Floyd avoids the style when there have been so few in history with those attributes at 147? I'm all for discussing fantasy fights, just not fantasy fighters.

Ortiz had a prime? lol..............

LMFAO! at coming up again and again. You and others keep bringing them up because you guys know fantasy fights are the only ones Floyd loses. Sorry but you don't get credit for being petty little hoes. You guys play retarded but you know deep down Floyd would beat PWill even with those attributes because you saw men inferior to Floyd defeat him. But hey, we know guys like you would shoot your mother rather than give Floyd credit or acknowledge he is better than someone. So what if he might lose to Leonard or Hearns. They were retired before Floyd's era began. The HOF guys that were fighting during Floyd's era-ODH, Shane, Manny, Kosta, Hamed, cotto-all waited to fight him until they could get a huge payday. djtmal's fantasy island-the place you go if you want to see Floyd lose a fight. wrong again...i don't bring these things up...i just give my take on the situation, and this isn't just any old fantasy fight...this is a fight that actually could have taken place because the fighter in question was actually fighting in floyd's era, in floyd's division.., and would have been potentially next had floyd not taken a vaca after ricky hatton...hard to get around all of that... and who said williams would beat floyd...only thing anyone with any sense said here is it ain't that cut and dry, because your boy would be potentially in there with a guy whose style would be a nightmare for him and could possibly have his number....who has a significant height/reach advantage, and is a natural ww who was pretty durable...we've seen guys like jones and mosley take on similar style nightmares in tarver and forrest, and didn't come out on top...you think that wasn't on the mayweather camp's minds in matching your boy up properly? only an excuse making, caption sav-a-floyd type such as yourself would even make an attempt at dismissing all of that

facts.....he does have a prime ortiz, and chop chop corley though... Ortiz had a prime?

P Willy was too slow for Floyd. Way too slow.

He's an ATG, I don't discredit that. I discredit the hype that his groupies say about him. I dislike groupies of all boxers, not just Floyd's. Not an armchair but if you think that, then go ahead.All you have to do is ignore those clowns. They don't represent the true boxing fan.

why i keep thinking of that whitney houston record...i get so emoootional babay, everytime i think of youuuuu...lol Deflect from the post however you can because you can't refute it. Keep on dreamin about someone beating Floyd. If that helps you sleep, great.

its real simple family...had he fought these guys in their prime, the ones that keep coming up over and over again...then some of us would be comfortable saying floyd would smoke the sugar rays, the hearns, the guys he ducked, er i mean he missed while he was on vacation... but he didn't, so we not... LMFAO! at coming up again and again. You and others keep bringing them up because you guys know fantasy fights are the only ones Floyd loses. Sorry but you don't get credit for being petty little hoes. You guys play retarded but you know deep down Floyd would beat PWill even with those attributes because you saw men inferior to Floyd defeat him. But hey, we know guys like you would shoot your mother rather than give Floyd credit or acknowledge he is better than someone. So what if he might lose to Leonard or Hearns. They were retired before Floyd's era began. The HOF guys that were fighting during Floyd's era-ODH, Shane, Manny, Kosta, Hamed, cotto-all waited to fight him until they could get a huge payday. djtmal's fantasy island-the place you go if you want to see Floyd lose a fight.

So don't address any points made and pivot to the "he didn't fight..." argument where you hold Floyd accountable because Manny , ODH, Shane and others wouldn't fight him. Damn, you are desperate to disparage Floyd's career anyway you can. Yeah, when you are the a side you get things done your way. Same as Leonard, same as ODH. stop crying that the guys you like never occupied that spot. FYI, Ring size is standard in Vegas idiot so at least know what the fuck you are talking about. When he was high risk, low reward, they were no where to be found. when they saw a big payday, they all came running. If he fought and beat these guys, bitches like you would find some way to denigrate them as you do everyone of Floyd's wins. Its the usual pattern, say fighter x will beat Floyd, they fight, Floyd wins, and you f@gs get upset and then down the win. Like I said if we answer this question using the Pwill that actually existed, he loses to Floyd. If we go with whatever elevated, enhanced fight night created player version of PWill you are using for purposes of this discussion, he still loses. why i keep thinking of that whitney houston record...i get so emoootional babay, everytime i think of youuuuu...lol

styles make fights. floyd is a greater fighter than williams, a limited fighter who wasn't hard to hit and who lost to worse fighters than floyd for sure. that said, again, styles make fights. activity and 6'2" of southpaw with a good chin was a style that floyd avoided, and for good reason. i'd probably shade floyd, but not by a lot. that's the kind of fighter floyd avoided or whom his team avoided. they avoided margarito, too. williams would be six inches taller than floyd, probably have 10+ lbs on him in the ring on fight night. but again, williams was not hard to hit and would probably eat punches all night without floyd having to work that hard to do it. it would come down to whether or not floyd could win the rounds, and i think that he would. but floyd was moved in a manner to maximize long term profitability, and a big, hard working southpaw with an 80 inch reach was not the kind of fight haymon would have had him take unless the money was huge. and it never was a huge fight, or worth that kind of risk and deterioration. if you break your hand you can still beat victor ortiz, robert guerrero, etc. you can tie those guys up if you need to. but you'll be hard pressed to impress judges when you throw less against a huge southpaw who throws 90 punches a round, and who is basically too tall for you to clinch. the general consensus for those who think with their brains, not their hearts

So don't address any points made and pivot to the "he didn't fight..." argument where you hold Floyd accountable because Manny , ODH, Shane and others wouldn't fight him. Damn, you are desperate to disparage Floyd's career anyway you can. Yeah, when you are the a side you get things done your way. Same as Leonard, same as ODH. stop crying that the guys you like never occupied that spot. FYI, Ring size is standard in Vegas idiot so at least know what the fuck you are talking about. When he was high risk, low reward, they were no where to be found. when they saw a big payday, they all came running. If he fought and beat these guys, bitches like you would find some way to denigrate them as you do everyone of Floyd's wins. Its the usual pattern, say fighter x will beat Floyd, they fight, Floyd wins, and you f@gs get upset and then down the win. Like I said if we answer this question using the Pwill that actually existed, he loses to Floyd. If we go with whatever elevated, enhanced fight night created player version of PWill you are using for purposes of this discussion, he still loses. its real simple family...had he fought these guys in their prime, the ones that keep coming up over and over again...then some of us would be comfortable saying floyd would smoke the sugar rays, the hearns, the guys he ducked, er i mean he missed while he was on vacation... but he didn't, so we not...

styles make fights. floyd is a greater fighter than williams, a limited fighter who wasn't hard to hit and who lost to worse fighters than floyd for sure. that said, again, styles make fights. activity and 6'2" of southpaw with a good chin was a style that floyd avoided, and for good reason. i'd probably shade floyd, but not by a lot. that's the kind of fighter floyd avoided or whom his team avoided. they avoided margarito, too. williams would be six inches taller than floyd, probably have 10+ lbs on him in the ring on fight night. but again, williams was not hard to hit and would probably eat punches all night without floyd having to work that hard to do it. it would come down to whether or not floyd could win the rounds, and i think that he would. but floyd was moved in a manner to maximize long term profitability, and a big, hard working southpaw with an 80 inch reach was not the kind of fight haymon would have had him take unless the money was huge. and it never was a huge fight, or worth that kind of risk and deterioration. if you break your hand you can still beat victor ortiz, robert guerrero, etc. you can tie those guys up if you need to. but you'll be hard pressed to impress judges when you throw less against a huge southpaw who throws 90 punches a round, and who is basically too tall for you to clinch.

after reading this load of nonstop garbage, its safe to say that: negro you need to put your big draws on.... you are truly bugging floyd money ain't take on every hof'er, and atg in their primes and left no doubt about any reservations anybody had about him, and in the case of Williams and even Margarito, fights could have been made, so get your tissue, people have good reason to say he avoided those guys for one reason or another, that is well documented and no flimsy a** excuse you offer up is gonna change that... the truth is, he picked and chose the right time to fight all of the best guys on his resume, usually after they have been beat down already or ko'd, plus had to have every conceivable advantage from ring, to gloves, and whatever else..and you know it and can't justify it with everything being the other guys fault...you captain sav-a-floyd, b**ch made asses... the real is, had he found the time to fight these guys when they were prime, then we wouldn't be having these discussions now would we...especially with a guy like Williams, who was in his weight class, in his era, and the whole nine, but Floyd couldn't shrink him down to his height so i guess we got no fight... So don't address any points made and pivot to the "he didn't fight..." argument where you hold Floyd accountable because Manny , ODH, Shane and others wouldn't fight him. Damn, you are desperate to disparage Floyd's career anyway you can. Yeah, when you are the a side you get things done your way. Same as Leonard, same as ODH. stop crying that the guys you like never occupied that spot. FYI, Ring size is standard in Vegas idiot so at least know what the fuck you are talking about. When he was high risk, low reward, they were no where to be found. when they saw a big payday, they all came running. If he fought and beat these guys, bitches like you would find some way to denigrate them as you do everyone of Floyd's wins. Its the usual pattern, say fighter x will beat Floyd, they fight, Floyd wins, and you f@gs get upset and then down the win. Like I said if we answer this question using the Pwill that actually existed, he loses to Floyd. If we go with whatever elevated, enhanced fight night created player version of PWill you are using for purposes of this discussion, he still loses.