Sergio Martinez would of whooped Floyd mayweather

As much as I loved Martinez, Floyd is too good.... interesting fight tho. A very good match up.

It's clear that if they ever fought at 154, Martinez would of outboxed and maybe KOd Floyd. And Sergio Martinez was calling him out too but mayweather wanted no part of him. Martinez was bigger, longer reach, hit harder, and had probably the best stamina at his prime. His footwork, jab and counters would of kept Floyd from doing much of anything. I think so too. Fraud even said he'd be willing to fight if Martinez moved down in weight, Martinez said yeah and Fraud just ignored it lol Fraud is a coward.

Dude he beat the **** out of Cintron and was robbed of a KO victory. Did you just look that up on boxrec? GTFOH This is what casual fans do. No idea of what actually happened in the fight. No idea that Martinez legit KOed cintron but cintron someone conned the ref into resuming the fight. After which Martinez proceeded to lay a savage beating on him.

the version that fought cotto would have got slaughtered inside of 4 rounds against Mayweather!. FACTS! The version that fought Cotto couldn't even walk. Fact.

LMAOOO. Exposed, bltch. All you did is DUCK and Deflect. That's why your name is the projector deflector. You're a disgrace. Look at all your bullshlt. 1. So you admit that you misquoted Paul Williams. Did he call Floyd a vagina, or did you lie? Let's hear you say you lied, bltch. 2. Again, you are not allowed to say what you think PWilliams was thinking. It is a FACT that he went on record saying Floyd did not duck him. You been deflecting from this a whole lot and making up your own agenda about his true thoughts. You little bltch. 3. Already showed you that even Arum said Floyd would fight Margarito but Floyd preferred at the time to buy out his contract. Then he went on to make more money than Arum was offering for those same fights. Aren't you tired of getting the shlt beat out of you by me? All you do is give your own conjecture. I provide facts. You should try it. 4. Read carefully and stop ducking and deflecting little guy. DID MANNY PACQUIAO SAY THAT HE WOULD FIGHT MARTINEZ AT 150? YES OR NO? Tell me what he said in that video without deflecting and without saying "but but but..." OH...BONUS QUESTION FOR YOU: Did Pacquiao duck Paul Williams at 147? Yes or no and why? YOU WERE EXPOSED, DEFLECTING BlTCH! 1) At first I thought that you just missed my post. No problem .... BUT I see DUMBO playing his old "gotcha games" AGAIN!!! .... LAME After I posted it TWICE, a normal human being would have seen that I had already quoted it previously (couple of posts ago!!!) and moved on!!!! 2) Not allowed? DEFLECTOR STRIKES AGAIN!!! I'm allowed to quote what Paul Williams actually said and in which counters what he said when he couldn't fight anymore because he was in a wheel chair! Also, most people would read what I posted and conclude the same. Floyd had NO ROADBLOCKs, as you FLoyd fans used as excuses for years. Floyd and Williams had the same advisor and like Williams said, all Floyd had to do is go to Al Haymon and the fight was made!!! FLOYD DUCKED!!! 3) a) Here is something that is similar to a video that I saw years ago where Floyd said his excuse for not fighting Margarito was because he knew that there was something fishy with Margarito!!! Told you that Floyd DUCKED!!! :lol1: Floyd "Nostradumus" Mayweather Ducked!!! “A lot of people must realize this, a lot of people wanted to see me and Antonio Margarito fight at one particular time (2006) and they said I was duckin’ and dodgin’ Antonio Margarito,” said Mayweather last week on the air. “Now this is the same guy that was cheating and I told the world that there was something funny going on with Antonio Margarito. Come to find out that this guy was cheating and beating opponents with casts in his gloves.” Floyd you knew NOTHING and we knew that you were DUCKING!!!! b) Man, this one even you over-protective Floyd fans will have no choice but to call Floyd a DUCK!!! Hall of Fame matchmaker Bruce Trampler was reminiscing recently about a meeting with Al Haymon that took place at Top Rank years ago. Floyd Mayweather was still a Top Rank fighter. Haymon was Mayweather’s advisor. “Al came in to discuss Floyd’s next fight with Bob ,” Trampler recalled. “They were going to meet in Bob’s office. Al was early. He had a few minutes to kill, so he stopped by my office. And I remember very clearly, Al said to me, ‘I’m going to be talking with Bob about a fight for Floyd. Bob will probably call you in at some point for your opinion. I’d appreciate it if you didn’t mention Antonio Margarito as a prospective opponent.’” :lol1: DUCKER!!! “That was the formula,” Trampler continued. “Al and Floyd were ducking a guy who, at that time, would have been a very dangerous opponent." :rofl: 4) Read? DEFLECTOR STRIKES AGAIN!!! As I told you and the video confirms, Manny said that he is too small to move up another division!!!! He said that he did it once against Margarito and the expression on his face says everything BUT AGAIN, he also said that he is too small so he will not be moving up!!!!! BUT as I said before, it was during the Margarito training camp that he said that he wouldn't ever move up above 147. He did just that! Instead, Floyd moved up and won titles at 154 BEFORE, DURING and AFTER he was called out by those he DUCKED such as Paul Williams and Sergio Martinez. Floyd you want to fight Sergio Martinez? Floyd: Tell him to move up and fight Direll at 168. Floyd the DUCKER!!! 5) BONUS QUESTION was already answered by me BUT NOT BY YOU DEFLECTOR!!! ... as I said in previous posts, Floyd fans said this for years. ROADBLOCK: Al Haymon and Arum were not going to make that matchup anyhoot! BUT Floyd and Paul Williams had the same FREAKING advisor JUST LIKE PAUL WILLIAMS TOLD YOU!!! Go answer that DEFLECTOR!!! .

Yep, just like he whooped Miguel Cotto right? Oh wait...Cotto actually knocked him out 3 years after getting dominated by Mayweather. I liked Martinez and he was very good for a few years but let's be real he didn't have enough in his game to beat Floyd and was also 2 weight classes bigger anyways. What's next? Let me guess - Andre Ward, Anthony Joshua and The Klitsckos would've beat Floyd too right? Just stop it it's getting ridiculous he's 50-0 get over it. LOL! Martinez couldn't even walk in the ring.

and :dunno: and Floyd wouldn't be able to defend as he usually did with the longer, taller, high work rate, high stamina Paul Williams who is a southpaw who throws punches that come from all directions!!! Where an opponent would miss Floyd by an inch or two, Paul Williams 79" reach PLUS height extension would catch Floyd. To put that into perspective, Manny's reach is about 67" and Floyd's is about 72".

OOPS! AT THE TIME THAT THE MARTINEZ FIGHT WAS BEING DISCUSSED, REFERRING SPECIFICALLY TO THE MARTINEZ FIGHT: Now you want to show a video from 2016 referring to Canelo??? But but but, I thought you said PWill wasn't allowed to change his mind in subsequent videos, but now Pacquiao can change his mind in subsequent videos? He said he was willing to fight him at 150 AFTER having fought Margarito, right? Rightttt???? Admit that you were wrong, bltch. Come on, you should be used to this by now! Did Manny say during the Margarito training camp that he would not go over 147? Did he say that? Yes and Manny never went above!! Did YOU IGNORE the video that I just posted where Manny said to you straight in your face that he did it once against Margarito and that he is too small to face them ........... DEFLECTOR!!!! :lol1: In that or another interview, Manny said that he was happy to finally be able to fight someone his own size!!! What happened in the Marquez fight? :doh: That is why it's useless replying to you! YOU JUST DEFLECT at ALL COST!!!! Just admit that you are wrong or just move on BUT NO, even when you are clearly WRONG, you bring up something that simply does NOT change the facts of what Manny said AND DID!!! Manny NEVER went above 147 again .... so being that is the case PLUS saying and realizing that he is too small to move up, you cannot be DUCKING!!!! :nono: DEFLECTOR ANSWER THIS SIMPLE QUESTION: BUT why are you not calling Floyd the DUCKER since he fought and won a title at 154 BEFORE, DURING and AFTER being called out by Paul Williams and Sergio Martinez and as you know, there would be no roadblocks with Paul Williams due them having the same advisor!!!! .

slow, predictable caveman margacheato (5'11'' 73'') gave paul fits. may (5'8'' 72'') would have done better than margacheato. dont give me the ''triangular theories dont work'' crap. ''but, but, why couldnt vernon beat caveman mayorga ?'' ''why did pac, ssm, cotto beat margarito (and may beat pac, ssm, cotto) ?'' in a couple of isolated triangular fights do the matches not make sense (ali/frazier/foreman, hagler/hearns/srl/duran). paul is given credit for being a lanky guy who doesnt stop throwing punches. too bad for him he wasnt the hardest guy to hit. equally bad for paul was he often smothered his own punches with his clumsy game plan. he never learned (porter is on the same road). may would have found a way of beating paul, imho. Paul Williams thru tons of punches and would not be concerned about Floyd's which are mostly pitty pat returns. That was his style. Floyd has a low work rate. Also Williams had amazing stamina which is why he could throw so many punches. With his height, reach and being a southpaw, it would also pose a huge problem for Floyd's defense. Williams said that he knew (bigger than Floyd) Winky's defense was amazing but if Williams did his thing and threw a ton of punches there would be punches getting thru and that is what happened. "If Paul Williams thought the world's top boxers were scared of him before, just wait until they see the holes he punched in Winky Wright's once-impenetrable defense. Williams worked Wright like a heavy bag with hundreds of relentless blows, earning an emphatic victory by unanimous decision Saturday night in a meeting of two much-avoided middleweights" "With so many punches to block, Wright (51-5-1) simply didn't have time to land enough scoring blows against his much taller, longer opponent. Williams barely appeared tired by the closing bell, chasing Wright around the ring up to the final seconds .... "I felt like I did in the first round in the 12th," Williams said. "That was because of my hard training, and running seven miles a day. It helped my breathing."

Man, I must have ESP ... I knew you would DEFLECT and bring up non-relevant topics. Also, your other deflection: Are you now talking about Floyd? Floyd opened his mouth but when Sergio was OK to come down in weight, then Floyd said, Sergio go take on Dirrell at 168. :lol1: Same thing with Paul Williams who said: "“I don’t think Floyd Mayweather will fight me any time,” Williams told the Examiner’s Michael Marley. “Manny Pacquiao, he might do it, he might step up but not Floyd. I guess Floyd won’t fight me because I don’t have a vagina.”" . You're a liar and a scumbag. Williams didn't call Floyd a vagina. He said, "He won't fight me because I don't have a vagina." That could be a dig at domestic issues, but what we do know is that Paul Williams, like I said, stated very clearly that Floyd did NOT duck him. Who the fvck are you to say that he's giving a political answer. Now you're in his head and are able to read his mind for your own bltch a$$ agenda? This is a man who was paralyzed and told everyone in the world not to be sad for him and that he doesn't feel bad for himself. Maybe you think that's a political answer and he's crying himself to bed at night, and publicly trying to be nice to everyone about everything instead of being honest? You are NOT allowed to tell people what the fvck they are thinking, dickhead. If there is anything that he deserves is the right for his word to be taken at face value. Of course he wanted a fight with Floyd at that time. Who didn't? He realized later that the time wasn't right. Liar. Check below, and then let's watch you DEFLECT you little bltch. Williams called out Pacquiao too, dickless. Why are you deflecting from that? Floyd ducked Margarito? Also proven false, dickhead. He bought out his contract instead because for one he wasn't ready to fight at the time of it and the buyout clause was to expire before he was ready to fight. Arum stated clearly that he refused raising the guarantees in the contract, but yea, you don't care about facts, do you? Oh really? Liar. He was interviewed and said he would fight Martinez at 150 until his team told him to sit down and shut his dumb ass up! That was after the Margarito fight. Here is Sergio agreeing to it. Like I said, you little bltch. It was his team protecting him. Just like they protected him by saying he's afraid of needles. Manny was nothing but a pawn with Arum pulling the strings, so you've basically been sucking Arum's ass believing everything he says and buying into the myth of Manny. How does it feel to be proven wrong yet again, chump? DEFLECTOR STRIKES AGAIN!!!! 1) If you go back a couple of posts(see below), I already mentioned that quote! Man, I must have ESP ... I knew you would DEFLECT and bring up non-relevant topics. Also, your other deflection: Are you now talking about Floyd? Floyd opened his mouth but when Sergio was OK to come down in weight, then Floyd said, Sergio go take on Dirrell at 168. :lol1: Same thing with Paul Williams who said: "“I don’t think Floyd Mayweather will fight me any time,” Williams told the Examiner’s Michael Marley. “Manny Pacquiao, he might do it, he might step up but not Floyd. I guess Floyd won’t fight me because I don’t have a vagina.”" . 2) What I said DEFLECTOR is that it does NOT disqualify what P Williams said before and that he called Floyd out and said that Floyd was basically ducking Williams!!!! CHUMP!!! "Floyd won't fight me" "Manny Pacquiao, he might do it, he might step up but not Floyd." "If Floyd went to Al and said, "Hey, I want to fight Paul Williams, what can Al do? But Floyd is not going to ever say that. Pacquiao, he fights bigger guys, he's different than Mayweather so maybe I will get to fight him." SO AGAIN, P Williams is calling Floyd a DUCKER!!! 3) a) Floyd was interviewed after the Margarito scandal and Floyd said he didn't want to fight Margarito because he knew that there was something fishy about Margarito. So YES Floyd "Nostradamus" Mayweather DUCKED! :lol1: b) When they approached Canelo to fight on Floyd's undercard vs Trout, Canelo wanted a guarantee that if he wins, in that Floyd is his next opponent. Floyd and his fans basically laughed and said that is not the way it works. One fight has nothing to do with another future fight. Floyd and his fans said: Canelo needs to think of one fight at a time and beat Trout before that fight between Floyd and Canelo can even be discussed. Yet, Floyd fans have amnesia, I see. To fight Margarito, you are saying that ALL the stars had to align. c) Arum had Margarito waiting it out with no fight because they wanted that fight with Floyd. Floyd pulled some excuses (injury) initially. Arum was to give Floyd $8 million and which was well over anything that Floyd had received up to that point!!! YET: Floyd DUCKs Margs altogether. Here you go/ Arum would have given Floyd his biggest pay day yet what does Floyd do?: " In 2006, Floyd was set to fight Antonio Margarito and was going to make a cool $8,000,000 for the bout. Instead, Floyd decided to put a $750,000 bet on himself by exercising a provision in his contract." Martinez called Manny out then comes the interviews and Manny responds as he did but the reality is what I stated. Manny was preparing to fight Marquez and then Bradley and what happened? You think after that Manny was going to fight Martinez, anyhow you look at it? BUT like I said now 6 or 7 times man, the below says it all about going above 147 after Margarito. Here is an interview that pretty much explains what I said and this is 2016. Look at Manny's face when he recollects the only time that he went above 147!!!!!! MANNY PACQUIAO SHUTSDOWN CANELO FIGHT RUMORS!! ADMITS HE'S TOO "BIG" RECALLS MARGARITO FIGHT!!! 2 min mark: .

They'd just say Margarito already beat him or Paul Williams

Sergio Martinez wouldnt have done ****, he would just be another great fighter floyd beat and people would make excuses again

No, Mayweather beats the overrated, hype job at 147 or 154 and this is coming from a non-Floyd fan.

Stop making excuses for your coward a$$ lord and savior. Did you forget that he rehydrates to 150? Did you forget that he weighed more than Mayweather for their fight? The truth of the matter is he is not a 140lb fighter as much as you want to pretend he is. His natural weight is in the 150's and he is for sure a 147lb fighter. Just because he wants to melt down to 140 to try to get some knockouts doesn't mean he is a natural 140lb fighter. He is clearly a 147lb fighter, just like Floyd. Neither one is a 154lb fighter. Yet you want to criticize Floyd because he fought Hoya, McGregor, and Canelo above 147, your boy fought Margarito and decided he can't handle it. Then why the fvck did he say he would fight Martinez at 150? You and Bob Arum are both a bunch of bltches making excuses. If Floyd is expected to fight these bigger fighters, then criticize Manny as well for ducking. Hell, PWill wanted to fight him at 147 and Pacquiao ducked it. Oh, but that was about height, right? Get the fvck out of here. And BOTH SERGIO AND PWILL COMPLAINED ABOUT PACQUIAO DUCKING THEM. SO EVERY TIME YOU BRING UP EXACTLY WHAT THEY SAY, WHY ARE YOU IGNORING WHAT THEY SAID ABOUT PACQUIAO? OH, THAT'S RIGHT. THAT WAS DIFFERENT THO. The truth is Manny woudn't fight Hoya above 147. He woudn't even fight Cotto above 147. Yet he is the same damn weight as Floyd. That is a FACT! If you look at their rehydration weights and the weights for their fight, you know it's a fact. His whole schtick is trying to find advantages based on weight. He says as much, but you ducked and deflected from that post twice. Stop with your stupid ass deflections and confess that your bltch a$s idol is a fraud. SO...news flash: 1. PWill went on record saying Floyd never ducked him. Oh....you ducked and deflected that, didn't you??? 2. If you want to say he ducked Sergio, then say Pac ducked him too. Right or wrong? Pac went on record saying he will fight him at 150, but his bltch ass team saved him the same way that they saved him from fighting Floyd in their primes. Because they knew he would get that ass beat and that hype would be GONE. 3. If you want to say he ducked PWill, then say Pac ducked him too. THIS WAS AT 147 SO YOU HAVE NO FVCKING EXCUSE. So what is it, ADP02? Did he duck PWill? Let's see if you answer or DEFLECT! The truth of the matter is neither one of these guys belonged at 154. You're just too much of a butthurt bltch to admit it. 1. News Flash? Paul Williams called out Floyd!!! Paul Williams, the fighter, called Floyd a vagina! Said that all Floyd had to do was talk to their advisor and the fight is made!!! Retired Williams that has no fight in him left took the politically correct approach .... but the above words were said by Williams, the fighter and everyone is aware of the truth!!! Sorry! 2. Nope, as I said, Floyd fought at 154 BEFORE, DURING and AFTER he was called out by Sergio Martinez and Paul Williams. Manny fought once at 151 and during his training camp said that's it, he cannot go up anymore than 147. Again, he said that he will never go above 147. Come on, even a DEFLECTOR like you should get it!!! :lol1: 3. You Floyd fans said for years that the Manny fight didn't happen because of TR and Arum. Floyd and P Williams had the same advisor (Al Haymon) and P Williams called Floyd out, big time!!! Arum went instead with another big dude that Floyd DUCKED named Margarito and who is a TR fighter!!!! BUT as I said already 5 times, Manny was interviewed and said that he is no longer moving up above 147!!! Capisce? Entiende? Understand? Verstehen? Понимаю? Comprenez vous? You cannot make those dumb excuses of yours to try and protect your hero! :nono: Floyd fought and got titles 3 times at 154!!!! .

its funny seeing all the martinez fanboys making excuses for him for the cotto fight when they were talking alot of **** before the fight and martinez himself did not use the knees as an excuse before or after the fight My knees are feeling great. I have been running in the mornings on the treadmill. It has been a great camp and I am feeling great and haven't felt this good in a long time," "Right now I am just the same as when there were no knee problems. I have overcome all obstacles. Martinez has insisted that his knee was not an issue against Cotto. Can't post links but just google "healthy martinez ready for cotto espn" and "sergio martinez will continue to fight espn". In the 2nd article his manager says it was the left hook in the first round that screwed him over and not his knees. And once again in that article martinez says his knee wasn't an issue It's disrespectful to a fighter to make excuses for him when he himself is saying there was no problems

It's clear that if they ever fought at 154, Martinez would of outboxed and maybe KOd Floyd. And Sergio Martinez was calling him out too but mayweather wanted no part of him. Martinez was bigger, longer reach, hit harder, and had probably the best stamina at his prime. His footwork, jab and counters would of kept Floyd from doing much of anything.I suspect that there's not a more pathetic group on earth than Floyd-haters. You people are downright pathetic lol. You just don't know when to quit.

I understand Martinez is the superior fighter but Zab Judah has elements that are more superior, he had the considerably faster hands and a lethal counter left uppercut one can't sleep on. Not trying to shit on Martinez' resume but he was running through a lot of fighters who didn't have any footwork and when he finally faced someone that did, he was done, that was Cotto of course. Sergio vs Cotto? Man Floyd fans are pathetic!!! Sergio shouldn't have even fought due to his knee issues! :pat: Elements? What about this important element? Zab Judah was an inconsistent mental midget who struggled with most of his competitive fights at 147!!! He lost to Baldomir, Clottey, Floyd, Cotto, Paul Malignaggi and Spinks at 147. YIKES!!! Judah lost also to several others such as Khan, Garcia, .... and of course, Kostya Tszyu. .

Nope! There is a difference as Sergio Martinez told you! There is a difference as Paul Williams told you! P Williams said that Floyd has the same freaking promoter as Williams. Floyd DUCKED!!! NOT THE SAME!!! Floyd's own words, "Sergio go fight Dirrell at 168" :lol1: First of all, fight night weights are unofficial .... but lets move past that for the kicks. Rehydration does not make you automatically become a fighter in a given division. If that were the case then Terence Crawford is a middleweight fighter. Canelo is a light heavy weight fighter. It doesn't work that way! Sergio Martinez knows that. Travestyny does NOT! Make it easier for you to understand: Michael Katsidis had a Lightweight fight where he too came in at 150 on fight night. So you are saying that he too should have fought Paul Williams and Sergio Martinez!!! :pat: BUT lets make it even clearer for you: While training for his Margarito fight, Manny stated that he will not go over 147 ever again and he never did! Floyd went up to 154 3 times and held the title 3 times. Floyd did it BEFORE, DURING and AFTER the call out from P. Williams and Sergio Martinez!!! AGAIN, NOT THE SAME!!! Finally, whenever these opponents or whoever approach Manny they always say the same. Manny looks much smaller than expected! With some exceptions (rookie McGregor), most of his fights you do not get that same type of discussion with Floyd .... Often you hear this "Floyd looks as big as Mosley" BUT its not only that (weight), as you keep on mixing up. Floyd has height and reach advantages over someone like Manny and as you saw fought 3 times at 154. Someone like Sergio Martinez knows this but Travestyny just looks at fight night weight! Travestyny, so Katsidis ducked Martinez too? Michael Katsidis vs Sergio Martinez! :nono: or Maybe Ricky Hatton(158 vs Collazo) vs GGG. . Jesus Christ. You are an absolute moron, you know that? Mayweather and Pacquaio were both fighting at 147. They both rehydrated to 150. You are saying Mayweahter should fight Martinez, but little itty bitty Pacquaio can't handle it. LMAOOOO. Thank you for exposing your boy as a bltch. And by the way, no they didn't say the same thing. A. Paul Williams admit that Mayweather never ducked him. B. Paul Williams was reportedly furious that Pacquaio ducked him for Margarito. C. Sergio Martinez said Mayweather might fight him, but Pacquaio won't. The point, you absolute idiot, is that Manny Pacquiao is about the same damn weight as Floyd, you idiot. They were the same at 16, and they were the same at the end of their careers. Pacquaio even WEIGHED MORE than Mayweather during their fight! Why don't you embarrass yourself and your idol by pointing out again how they wanted to squeeze him back down to 140 to give that illusion that he still has power. Remember that? They wanted him at 140 so he can knock out smaller guys. Didn't you post that? Huh???? PLUS YOU KEEP DUCKING MANNY SAYING HE DRAINS FIGHTERS FOR AN ADVANTAGE You are pathetic, just like your idol. You want more, or are you ready to beg me for a draw again? Manny went down to about 143 against Algieri and has stated that he can make 140, no problem. Floyd didn't make a CW against Marquez that was higher than that!!! Man, I just read your post again and you even freaking bring up that Manny can make 140!!! TOO FUNNY!!! Yup, Manny fought Ricky Hatton where Hatton was KING, at 140. Floyd had Hatton come up to 147 where Hatton struggled at!!! Hatton came in at 158 against Collazo BUT his BEST DIVISION was at 140!!!! Man, you will never get it!!! :lol1: Why do you deflect instead of reading my post and responding to my points????????? Floyd fought at 154 and had titles at 154 and this was ==>>> BEFORE, DURING and AFTER he was called out by Sergio Martinez and Paul Williams. Manny fought once at 151 and DURING his training camp he said that he would NEVER go above 147 for his fights and NEVER DID!!! So Floyd was able to fight at 154, so why did he DUCK Sergio Martinez and Paul Williams? Paul Williams said that they had the same promoter/advisor and all Floyd had to do is call Haymon and it was a done deal! DUCK!!! .

Martinez is not solely content with moving, he'll mix it up in the pocket, he isn't trying to hit you with the end of his punches like say Trout. The way some here are describing him, you'd think it was Lara they were talking about. We're talking about a guy who prioritizes trying to get his opponents out of there and with a little more gas in the tank I'd say he would have stopped Pavlik as well. This is how he ended Dzinriruk, Barker and Macklin. While it worked out for him there, at the same time this is what makes Martinez more susceptible to counters and why I would have favored Canelo to beat him.

Serg 2007-2112 would have given Floyd a run for his money.. Look at what zab did the first few rounds and then faded. Serg wouldn't have faded and is bigger and better than zab.. Out of all the fantasy opponents for Floyd, prime serg is one of the few guys I say could beat Floyd I understand Martinez is the superior fighter but Zab Judah has elements that are more superior, he had the considerably faster hands and a lethal counter left uppercut one can't sleep on. Not trying to shit on Martinez' resume but he was running through a lot of fighters who didn't have any footwork and when he finally faced someone that did, he was done, that was Cotto of course.