Ward dissed him first b4 the Robert Guerrero fight. That was after Floyd allowed him to use his gym.
They've been going back and forth since.
What he say, I missed it.
Confused by the connection and why people think you have to be a fan of both :lol1:
Both American Fighters so yeah more Americans will root for BOTH especially vs guys who are not American :dunno: same as UK Fight fans root for UK fighters and Mexican Fan root for Mexican fighters!
Sicko,
Tell 'em Bro, it's common sense...
Andre Ward: Every one of his bouts against a top level opponent has been controversial, because his bouts are decided by illegal boxing moves (headbutts, low blows and etc.) This isn't even debatable!
I disagree.
I think its very debatble for you. Was is an ATG and it has nothing to do with percieved illegal tactics.
If you want to be taken seriously, the burden of proof is on you me boy.
Judah was always fighting at a heavier weight than Floyd, he moved up to fight him when he moved up to WW and Judah was undisputed champ. Arum wouldn't guarantee Floyd a Oscar fight so he didn't fight Margarito and bought out his contract to fight Baldomir ( who was the lineal, Ring, IBO and WBC champ) and fought Oscar after. Arum didnt allow Cotto near Floyd because he thought he wasn't ready. Mosely wanted no part of Floyd and there's videos of him making excuses that he was high risk low reward. Kostya wanted no part of Floyd, Floyd called him out plenty of times, Kostya fought Floyd's uncle, that should tell you something. As for Williams, that fight would have never of happened and was never any talk about it.
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And at the end of the day...He didn't fight any of them & then retired. Noticed I didn't even mentioned Pacquia, as you see, this became a pattern waaaay before even Pacquia was mentioned.
Mayweather is the best boxer I have ever seen. Andre just seems super basic and boring to me. I don't care if he's dirty. At least when he's dirty he's attempting to fight. I just don't see why they group Mayweather and ward together. Then say it's the fanbase that's hating on non American fighters. I guess I can't join.
Ward is a very good fighter. I don't like the way he fights. He grabs his opponent every chance he gets and then wrestles, mauls and holds and hits. He makes that work for him. He has never lost a fight. Still many of his fights are somewhat clinch fests and wrestling matches. That's fine for stand up MMA fighting where the rules allow and encourage clinching and holding and hitting. They call it dirty boxing. Mayweather doesn't hold or clinch to excess. He lands his fast accurate punches from all ranges without holding his opponent while he hits him. I much prefer to watch Mayweather fight than to watch Ward fight.
I'm a much bigger fan of Floyd than I am of Ward but I respect them both as fighters. As previous posters stated Ward's style is very difficult to watch. He's like a bigger, slower, more clumsy version of Mayweather. He's not as fast twitchy as Mayweather nor is he as elusive, which makes him less appealing to watch but his ring I.Q. is definitely on par with Floyd's.
Ha Ha what about your boy ducking the whole division with that bogus "vacation" when everybody was at their peak. Shane, Williams, Margarito, Cotto, the 2009 Pac excuses.
The vacation line came from Mosley you casual.
https://youtu.be/OPJhvYXKZK8
He beat all of them deal with it weirdo..50-0
Manny
Cotto
Shane
he left margarito and williams out to rot
Pacquiao didn't fight Paul Williams either. Unfortuanetly his career was cut short so we didnt get to see him fight a lot of other good fighters. You can literally do that to any fighters resume. So if that's the case Cotto and Mosley should be considered good wins for Canelo. And pacquiao fought Mosley after Floyd lol. And we are not even going to discuss Margarito you just reaching now. You seen how Mosley beat that cheater after he had them wraps took away lol. Floyd is older than all of them except Mosley lol. I hope you realize Boxing is a marathon not a sprint son.
You can tell you're a casual. Are you talking about this terrified Mosley who clearly ducked Floyd? Why would these guys want to risk their career and get done like Gatti?
Somebody post this video please
https://youtu.be/OPJhvYXKZK8
Manny didn't want to take a drug test and Arum kept making excuses about cuts and building stadiums.
Cotto was to green according to Arum
Shane didn't want to fight Floyd and he's on the record making excuses.
Williams was never an option and Williams has said so himself.
As for Margarito, Arum didnt' want to guarantee Floyd money and the Oscar fight so Floyd bought out his contract and fought Baldimor for the same money and got the Oscar fight next.
And I'm not even a fan of Floyd. People just try to find excuses to discredit certain fighters and say they ducked someone
I don't want to hear these same old excuses. Floyd just aint fight 'em
Oh shut up weirdo had he fought them any earlier you'd just say they weren't in their prime or too young like y'all say about Canelo.
And You mean all the cowards who were ducking and scared of him at 135? ...all of them ..Especially Mr my tooth is loose so I can't fight Floyd Next aka Shane Mosley
i don't blame them though Pretty Boy Floyd was a monster.
https://youtu.be/CEHF5HX6Jb0
"I'll stomp on Kostya Tszyu" lol
Ha Ha what about your boy ducking the whole division with that bogus "vacation" when everybody was at their peak. Shane, Williams, Margarito, Cotto, the 2009 Pac excuses.
Opposite. I have long been a fan of Ward's, but not Mayweather. I can respect a fighter for being a fighter, and i have great respect for May in that regard. But, I just don't care for Floyd as a person, whereas Andre is a good guy who does things on his terms, no matter what kind of pressure and negativity comes his way. Plus, I like the fact that so many people dislike him. I hate it when everyone is on the bandwagon of my favorite fighter. I like rolling w/ the guy who proves them all wrong.
floyd could have fought a few of those guys much earlier than he did thats the difference
save the excuses please
Oh shut up weirdo had he fought them any earlier you'd just say they weren't in their prime or too young like y'all say about Canelo.
And You mean all the cowards who were ducking and scared of him at 135? ...all of them ..Especially Mr my tooth is loose so I can't fight Floyd Next aka Shane Mosley
i don't blame them though Pretty Boy Floyd was a monster.
https://youtu.be/CEHF5HX6Jb0
"I'll stomp on Kostya Tszyu" lol
I am not a fan of Andre Ward. I respect his professional and amateur accomplishments but he's not as skilled or as entertaining Floyd. His fights are extremely sloppy and hard to watch, lots of headbutts and lowblows. And I think he's kind of overrated. He lost the first fight to Kov without a doubt.
I'd say the same things about Gervonta Davis, who people just assume I must like since I'm a Floyd fan.
Manny
Cotto
Shane
he left margarito and williams out to rot
Manny didn't want to take a drug test and Arum kept making excuses about cuts and building stadiums.
Cotto was to green according to Arum
Shane didn't want to fight Floyd and he's on the record making excuses.
Williams was never an option and Williams has said so himself.
As for Margarito, Arum didnt' want to guarantee Floyd money and the Oscar fight so Floyd bought out his contract and fought Baldimor for the same money and got the Oscar fight next.
And I'm not even a fan of Floyd. People just try to find excuses to discredit certain fighters and say they ducked someone
Margarito, Cotto, Mosley, Paul Williams, Zab, Kostya Tszyu,
Judah was always fighting at a heavier weight than Floyd, he moved up to fight him when he moved up to WW and Judah was undisputed champ. Arum wouldn't guarantee Floyd a Oscar fight so he didn't fight Margarito and bought out his contract to fight Baldomir ( who was the lineal, Ring, IBO and WBC champ) and fought Oscar after. Arum didnt allow Cotto near Floyd because he thought he wasn't ready. Mosely wanted no part of Floyd and there's videos of him making excuses that he was high risk low reward. Kostya wanted no part of Floyd, Floyd called him out plenty of times, Kostya fought Floyd's uncle, that should tell you something. As for Williams, that fight would have never of happened and was never any talk about it.
Im curious, what guys could he fought earlier? Obviously the Manny fight didn't happen earlier because of the drug testing and Arum's excuses.
Manny
Cotto
Shane
he left margarito and williams out to rot
Those are the racist cats or the guys too into racial sh^t thinking stuff like that. They are best ignored or ignored as much as possible.
Excactly true, a good posters seeing right through the bull****. :headbang:
Confused by the connection and why people think you have to be a fan of both :lol1:
Both American Fighters so yeah more Americans will root for BOTH especially vs guys who are not American :dunno: same as UK Fight fans root for UK fighters and Mexican Fan root for Mexican fighters!