Interesting numbers regarding PPV'S

Did tyson vs mcstinky really generate 1.5 mil?? That to me is by far more impressive than any other PPV number. That is fawking mind blowing. That number alone makes him the PPV king Wasn't that Tyson's first fight back? McNeely was hilarious. "I'm gonna wrap Tyson in a cocoon of horror". I'll remember that quote to my dying day!!!

there are more people who have access to ppv, today we have internet, more people consume, that streaming stuff is exaggerated, its mostly college age guys who still live at home, or young teens whose parents wont pay for the ppv. Most people will buy fights if interested only if its something super huge like Mayweather Pacquiao fights, the main difference is how boxing is covered today as opposed to before, Boxing is no longer mainstream that is the real kicker, back in the days I remember everything from ABC, FOX, you name it they new boxing, from Duran, hearns,leonard, hagler Boxing was still on the tip of peoples tongue. I remember celebs watching Danny Red Lopez vs Bobby Chacon on regular tv, these guys were stars that young guys never heard of but mainstream tv and local sports and news stations covered these boxers regularly so they had hometown support and national coverage. It tapered off and fully lost contact with the sports fans beginning in the early 2000s, now most people I run into who are older heads know almost everything about boxing pre 2000s because they work and could only tune into ESPN to get sporting coverage and don't really search the internet in the early days. And ESPN never covered boxing on sports center anymore.

yeah the ppv back in the day seemed like events, when I was a kid in the 80s I remember the Tyson fights, boxing was still covered by mainstream media sports shows. They had no social media or hype reach like today either, no internet.

Just thought It was a neat comparison and kind of shows how big that particular fight was. What's cool about that number is that you can imagine everyone at the office or wherever talking about the fight, with limited access to the fight they figure out who can possibly order it. Then they the all get together and watch the fight.

Great post. I'd give you rep but I'm still at negative 1000 thanks to dehydrator I love a good post that gives you an interesting persepective. Thanks for sharing. You are welcome bud, take care.

Not really impressive when you take into account streaming. Sure more homes have access to PPV now but more homes have access to watching the fight for free. not true, back then we had those black boxes where you could watch ppv free

Why is two black guys fighting racist af? The fact that you labeled them black guys is just racist. Isn't that how the world works nowadays? :lol1:

interesting stuff

How much were PPVs back in the day though in the US, gotta have some kind of effect. Also the popularity level of boxing in the US would have something to do with it. UK for example boxing is booming, 1.2million +PPVs for Mayweather/Pacquiao, Mayweather/McGregor and Joshua/Klitschko equates to around 9-10% of the possible buyers.

He seems aggressively Puerto Rican to me. Idk that being born in the US changes that. Money Powell IV was born in Germany. Does that make him German? https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BguBObxIcAAB2CL.jpg Depends on German nationality laws and if he meets the criteria to be a German citizen, without looking too much into it, i'll take a wild guess that his parents were living in Germany because one of them was stationed there in the US military. A quick google search says "Children born on or after 1 January 2000 to non-German parents acquire German citizenship at birth if at least one parent: has a permanent residence permit and. has been residing in Germany for at least eight years." Does he meet these criterias? If so, then yes, he's German, if not, then no. Cotto is Puerto Rican because that's what he says, out of respect to that, since that's what he wants to represent, that's how he's introduced and that's what websites say he is. But technically he's American, because he was born here. It's not like in Germany, if you are a Puerto Rican who was born in the U.S., you don't need any special criteria, you are an American citizen. You are also an American citizen if you were born in PR but that's a different story. "U.S. Citizenship Through Parents or by Birth. Generally speaking, a person can become a U.S. citizen in one of four ways. First, by being born in the United States or one of its territories. Second, if you were born to parents who are U.S. citizens, then you may be a U.S. citizen yourself." Miguel Cotto is a US citizen by birth. If he wants to represent PR, which he did all throughout his amateur career and still does til this day, he's free to do that and one has to respect that. One last thing Eff Pandas...I'm just being highly technical with you to mess with you :lol1: But Cotto is American though.

Lol...keep scrolling...it says born in Providence, RI. That literally makes him American. Sure he claims his nationality is PR, and that's what websites will say to respect who he feels he is. But he was born in the United States, which makes him American. It's true that we use race interchangeably and in correct terms it's wrong. But Puerto Rican describes a heritage of people from a certain island. They're ancestry is partially Spaniard and partially Native American and among a host of other mixtures- including African . We always acceppt PR as race, why pick it apart now.

The Evander Holyfield vs George Foreman fight on April 19, 1991 generated a buy rate of 1.4 million. That might not seem like a big number, but It's enormous when you consider that only 16 1/2 million homes had access to the fight. Which means 8 percent of those homes bought It. A buy rate that remains a record. Around 100 million have access to PPV today. Eight percent of that total would be 8 million. A figure that Mayweather vs Mcgregor or Mayweather vs Pacquiao did not come close to. Great post. I'd give you rep but I'm still at negative 1000 thanks to dehydrator I love a good post that gives you an interesting persepective. Thanks for sharing.

Old timey fan of nerding out on PPV bs. Here's some potential fun lil PPV rankings. Top 5 PPV's without a US or Mexican fighter 1 - Pacquiao vs Cotto (2009) 1.2M+ 2 - Pacquiao vs Hatton (2009) 800k+ 3 - Pacquiao vs Clottey (2010) 700k+ 4 - Lewis vs Tua (2000) 400k+ 5 - Martinez vs Cotto (2014) 300k+ Top 5 PPV's 2 black guys 1 - Tyson vs Holyfield II (1996) 1.9M+ 2 - Tyson vs Lewis (2002) 1.9M+ 3 - Tyson vs Holyfield I (1996) 1.5M+ 4 - Holyfield vs Foreman (1991) 1.4M+ 5 - Mayweather vs Mosley (2010) 1.4M+ Top 5 PPV's with a white guy (Canelo don't count) 1 - Mayweather vs McGregor (2017) ??? 2 - Tyson vs McNeeley (1996) 1.5M+ 3 - Mayweather vs Hatton (2007) 900k+ 4 - Pacquiao vs Hatton (2009) 800k+ 5 - Tyson vs Botha (1999) 700k+ That's racist af...

Wikipedia disagrees with you. "Miguel Ángel Cotto Vázquez (born October 29, 1980) is a Puerto Rican professional boxer." Lol...keep scrolling...it says born in Providence, RI. That literally makes him American. Sure he claims his nationality is PR, and that's what websites will say to respect who he feels he is. But he was born in the United States, which makes him American.

Not really impressive when you take into account streaming. Sure more homes have access to PPV now but more homes have access to watching the fight for free. People always talk about streaming but forget about the black box of the 90s. That was the original streaming.

The Evander Holyfield vs George Foreman fight on April 19, 1991 generated a buy rate of 1.4 million. That might not seem like a big number, but It's enormous when you consider that only 16 1/2 million homes had access to the fight. Which means 8 percent of those homes bought It. A buy rate that remains a record. Around 100 million have access to PPV today. Eight percent of that total would be 8 million. A figure that Mayweather vs Mcgregor or Mayweather vs Pacquiao did not come close to. You need to factor in the price of the ppv. I'm certain the price for May PAC substantially out paced inflation. What I'm trying to say is that if the May PAC fight cost the same as the Holyfield fight In terms of adjusted value I suspect it won't be as impressive. Or said diffently the May PAC fight would have sold a lot more. He

Old timey fan of nerding out on PPV bs. Here's some potential fun lil PPV rankings. Top 5 PPV's without a US or Mexican fighter 1 - Pacquiao vs Cotto (2009) 1.2M+ 2 - Pacquiao vs Hatton (2009) 800k+ 3 - Pacquiao vs Clottey (2010) 700k+ 4 - Lewis vs Tua (2000) 400k+ 5 - Martinez vs Cotto (2014) 300k+ Top 5 PPV's with 2 black guys 1 - Tyson vs Holyfield II (1996) 1.9M+ 2 - Tyson vs Lewis (2002) 1.9M+ 3 - Tyson vs Holyfield I (1996) 1.5M+ 4 - Holyfield vs Foreman (1991) 1.4M+ 5 - Mayweather vs Mosley (2010) 1.4M+ Top 5 PPV's with a white guy (Canelo don't count) 1 - Mayweather vs McGregor (2017) ??? 2 - Tyson vs McNeeley (1996) 1.5M+ 3 - Mayweather vs Hatton (2007) 900k+ 4 - Pacquiao vs Hatton (2009) 800k+ 5 - Tyson vs Botha (1999) 700k+ Cotto was born in Rhode Island, he is literally American. Canelo's race is white, so he is a 'white' guy. His ethnic group is Latino. It's like Hatton is white, his ethnic group is English. McGregor is white, his ethnic group is Irish. Canelo is white, his ethnic group is Latino. You can not look at Canelo and deny him being white, quite possibly of Spanish ancestry.

Nice work, pal. It's interesting to read stuff like that. Thank you bud. I also find It Interesting.

That was tysons1st fight since going to prison so there was a lot of build up plus Don King was promoting. Quick fact about that fight is Mcneeleys trainer bet 600k that the fight would end in less than a round and with around 30 secs to go in the 1st he throws in the towel on a perfectly coherent game Mcneeley Interesting, never heard that about Mcneely's trainer.

Did tyson vs mcstinky really generate 1.5 mil?? That to me is by far more impressive than any other PPV number. That is fawking mind blowing. That number alone makes him the PPV king That was tysons1st fight since going to prison so there was a lot of build up plus Don King was promoting. Quick fact about that fight is Mcneeleys trainer bet 600k that the fight would end in less than a round and with around 30 secs to go in the 1st he throws in the towel on a perfectly coherent game Mcneeley