Is Mayweather in the same bracket as Ali and Tyson now?

The closest thing from this period would be De La Hoya. :lol1: @ this again, and him handing out red K because people laughed at the insane post.

Mayweather is not quite as famous as Tyson or Ali but he is close and he lacks a couple of things that Tyson and Ali had. 1) Time-as stated by others Tyson and Ali were both famous and hated during their times but views of them softened as time passed and looking at them in hindsight improved their standing in the eyes of the public as will Floyd's standing improve with time. 2) Being humbled-Both Ali and Tyson were humbled by tremendous a$$ whippings toward the end of their careers and for some haters seeing that lessened the hatred and made them more able to humanize these larger than life figures. Floyd never got that and some haters still have a flaming hatred of him because they never got to see him humbled. That burning hatred will keep the anti-Floyd crowd posing opposition to the growing legend of Floyd that is no longer there for Ali and Tyson.

The way I see it is Most famous ever - Ali and Tyson Followed by Holyfield, Foreman and Frazier - everyone I've ever met knows who these 3 are, largely due to their association with the above 2 Then after that top 5 it really becomes country dependent IMO e.g. Pacquiao is the star of the Philippines In the UK our most famous are Lewis, Hamed, Eubank, Benn etc Panama would obviously be Duran Mexico/Mexican American - JJC Sr, De la Hoya Puerto Rico - Trinidad I imagine in America, the household names are Ray Leonard, Mayweather, Joe Louis, possibly Jones Jr? I don't know, the American posters are far more versed to provide opinions on this bit

And still not an icon that's reality, I know you groupies don't want to accept it but it is what it is In what world is he not an icon? He's the richest and most well known athlete in sports and the greatest boxer of the last 30 years. His clothing line alone makes $10 million a year if those things don't make him an icon I don't know what does. You might not like him but there's no doubt he's the greatest boxer of this generation and maybe the greatest athlete as well. There's no one else who's ever been this far above the competition for this long. Or anyone who's commanded as much interest. So much so that he can go anywhere in the world and get paid huge money just to talk. He's an icon and a legend.

LOL @ one of the GOATS and the best of the last 20 years just being forgotten. Ali was hated for his beliefs, but the main reasons were that he was brash, ****y and black. The same reasons as Money Mayweather and once he retires most of the haters will change and claim they were fans since day 1. It's already starting to happen now, a lot of people have changed their minds about him. Mayweather has the highest PPV numbers ever and can do speaking engagements all around the world and get paid more than anyone else. He's the biggest name in boxing period. And still not an icon that's reality, I know you groupies don't want to accept it but it is what it is

I am talking global star power. Not boxing resume. So am I. It's not even close.

What a great argument to settle the debate. 😂😂😂 I've been to two countries in Europe and two in Africa over the past eight months -- Mayweather is worldwide.

I bet you're wrong. What a great argument to settle the debate.

This loser has walked through Timbuktu, Mumbai and Karachi and asked around if they know who Mayweather is :lol: Spoon 2.0 What xeactly as hurt your feelings? Do you genuinely believe he is as well known globally as Muhammad Ali?

No. Ali and Tyson were HW's and both were and are universally recognizable icons. Just about every sports fan around the world would recognize them. Floyd just isn't up there at all. The closest thing from this period would be De La Hoya. :lol1::lol1::lol1:

ARE YOU SERIOUS?? IF fLOYD LOST THE INTERNET WOULD SHUT DOWN AND IT WOULD BE SPLATTERED ALL OVER THE NEWS PAPER AND ON CNN I concur. If Floyd lost on Saturday night...good Lord. Sh*t, his winning was the lead story on CNN.com I understand you guys but it just feels different to me. Obviously its was completely different time and everything is different. Its just that why Floyd is a huge celebrity and has clearly transcended the sport, Ali and Tyson, again as HWT champs, occupied a completely different space in the public eye IMO.

Floyd is WAY bigger than Oscar. I am talking global star power. Not boxing resume.

No. Ali and Tyson were HW's and both were and are universally recognizable icons. Just about every sports fan around the world would recognize them. Floyd just isn't up there at all. The closest thing from this period would be De La Hoya. Floyd is WAY bigger than Oscar.

No. Ali and Tyson were HW's and both were and are universally recognizable icons. Just about every sports fan around the world would recognize them. Floyd just isn't up there at all. The closest thing from this period would be De La Hoya.

Wishful thinking mayweather is getto trash like most of his fan base and will be forgotten ,you are trying to associate may to Ali but fail to realize that Ali was hated for his political views, activism, and beliefs. People hate may because he is getto trash that promotes black stereotypes and makes blacks look like fools. As far as icon status mayweather not even close, if fighters like Duran,Leonard,Chavez etc are not considered world wide icons wth makes you think may is? LOL @ one of the GOATS and the best of the last 20 years just being forgotten. Ali was hated for his beliefs, but the main reasons were that he was brash, ****y and black. The same reasons as Money Mayweather and once he retires most of the haters will change and claim they were fans since day 1. It's already starting to happen now, a lot of people have changed their minds about him. Mayweather has the highest PPV numbers ever and can do speaking engagements all around the world and get paid more than anyone else. He's the biggest name in boxing period.

Wishful thinking mayweather is getto trash like most of his fan base and will be forgotten ,you are trying to associate may to Ali but fail to realize that Ali was hated for his political views, activism, and beliefs. People hate may because he is getto trash that promotes black stereotypes and makes blacks look like fools. Why would what one person does be applied to an entire race?

Yes and no. He didn't have all the legendary fights that they had, nor the same interesting personality, but when it comes to the ring, then I consider him above both of them (and that means a lot, they're my two favourite boxers).

Yeah he was just as hated if not more, but what's interesting is that once he retired all these "haters" jumped on his d"ck and acted like they were fans from day 1. Expect the exact same thing to happen with Mayweather once he retires and the sport isn't nearly as entertaining or interesting as it was during his prime/career. Wishful thinking mayweather is getto trash like most of his fan base and will be forgotten ,you are trying to associate may to Ali but fail to realize that Ali was hated for his political views, activism, and beliefs. People hate may because he is getto trash that promotes black stereotypes and makes blacks look like fools. As far as icon status mayweather not even close, if fighters like Duran,Leonard,Chavez etc are not considered world wide icons wth makes you think may is?

you may not believe this but back in the day Ali was hated more than Floyd is today. But then again, boxing was wayyyyyyyyyyyy more popular then. Yeah he was just as hated if not more, but what's interesting is that once he retired all these "haters" jumped on his d"ck and acted like they were fans from day 1. Expect the exact same thing to happen with Mayweather once he retires and the sport isn't nearly as entertaining or interesting as it was during his prime/career.

Oh yeah? I bet if you ask most people in Europe, Africa or Asia they dont even know who Floyd is. And Im not talking about people who follows boxing. Im talking about the average joe. If you ask them if they ever heard about the names Tyson & Ali they will know. Mayweather, no. I bet you're wrong.