Thoughts?
Being a good company man?
Too emotionally attached?
Edit: Let me put into context
Schaub was talking about how Floyd said Connor wasn't that hard of a puncher.
Rogan interjected with " But Connor did not look like he was putting a lot of power in his punches."
Rogan is UFC employed and his head is fried from shrooming too much
Joe was dismissing Mayweather's notion that McGregor doesn't hit hard when he said this.
Joe, who is generally a rational guy, would be more credible stating that Connor simply doesn't have the power of a Maidana, Cotto, Canelo, or even a Mayweather.
Yet he chose to say this, which clearly shows his refusal to acknowledge the reality of the situation.
Max Kellerman said the same as Joe Rogan, essentially.
Conor took a more measured approach vs Floyd than he normally does.
That's the point.
I believe him, The fight was fixed when has Mayweather ever done this? Conor didnt even throw the left hand on a wide open Floyd, Floyd said Conor Ill give you 100 million you already got a loss let me go out on top I changed your bum life.
That's disingenuous^
Here's that exchange:
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I believe him, The fight was fixed when has Mayweather ever done this? Conor didnt even throw the left hand on a wide open Floyd, Floyd said Conor Ill give you 100 million you already got a loss let me go out on top I changed your bum life.
That's disingenuous^
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Boxing power is partially about being able to throw power shots at the right times. If you have a guy walking into you, literally walking crossing over his feet, you have chances to throw power shots. I personally think McGregor lacked the fundamentals to be able to throw power shots at short range while moving backwards. So, sure, if Floyd stood perfectly still at the perfect range, maybe McGregor could load up on a shot that could do some damage. That's true of all fighters. Most boxers do not load up on every shot, because they'd get tired. A guy like GGG has heavy hands that hurt you even when he's just throwing to make contact. McGregor is not in that class, period. He fought more like a Paulie, ironically, because that's prob around the ballpark of where his power is.
stupid people are going to say stupid things, it shouldnt be a shock to anyone that rogans talking nonsense. the guys a knucklehead.
Like Kellerman? ^^
Joe Rogan said...
- "But Conor did not seem like he was putting a lot of power in his punches. It looked like he was trying to be real active"
USMCer said...
- "Conor didnt really employ his big shot. He tried to pick and pop more than blast that left like he usually does...
Conor was more measured than he is in MMA. You never saw him commit to that famed 'Celtic Cross'. I think he thought he could/would have to go all 12...
He jabbed. He moved his feet. He landed one-two's. He probed. He countered. He landed upppercuts. But he didn't "go for" Mayweather, he never went full bore."
Max Kellerman agrees...
- "Conor McGregor, as most great fighters have, has an extremely high fighting-IQ. It's the reason he didn't really hit Mayweather with anything hard. He didn't load up on any punches...
Because Conor is smart enough to know, if I try to load-up on something, I'm not going to hit Floyd... so he quick-punched him. He used his speed and hit him with arm-punches..."
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you are giving him way too much credit. he actually is not a big puncher. just because he kos white guys in mma who have no training interms of rolling with punches or tucking their chins doesnt mean he is a big puncher. Give me one of those mma guys coming face first with their chins up and i ko them too
I'm not giving him too much credit, you would need to see my previous posts to understand that. I actually said once paulie exposed Connor as not having the type of power the MMA people were claiming that he had no chance.
However, on top of that, he wasn't even throwing with a lot of conviction, especially the jabs, he was just trying to score some points, which he did.
He took power off his punches to actually land something. That's the trade off, he's getting credit for landing, if he would've put force behind them he would've missed and gotten countered.
you are giving him way too much credit. he actually is not a big puncher. just because he kos white guys in mma who have no training interms of rolling with punches or tucking their chins doesnt mean he is a big puncher. Give me one of those mma guys coming face first with their chins up and i ko them too
You are talking about a non-boxer, who relies on speed and groundwork. It takes a long time to adopt the correct foot position to deliver power shots in an instant.
Conor does not have the experience to make set ups that boxers have, so he was just taking opportunities as he found them, which always results in clumsy looking punches.
Just saying........
I'm well aware he doesn't have the experience.
Which explains why he can't box and can't punch.
He landed the cleanest uppercut he could possibly land it it was soft as hell.
You could clearly see he can't crack an egg. You can feel a guys power even when you block it or it grazes you and Floyd literally laughed at it before deciding his power was so non existent that he could just walk right through him.
He wouldn't even do that to Guererro who is considered a realtively soft puncher.
You are talking about a non-boxer, who relies on speed and groundwork. It takes a long time to adopt the correct foot position to deliver power shots in an instant.
Conor does not have the experience to make set ups that boxers have, so he was just taking opportunities as he found them, which always results in clumsy looking punches.
Just saying........
:lol1: Oh yeah that makes sense.
He was gonna fookin knock him out in 2 rounds by not trying to punch hard.
Floyd was gonna knock him out in 1 apparently.
Lol You're a retard.
Tell me, boy - Why is it you can rule out Conor having any power in boxing when he didn't even land a good, hard shot with a lot of force behind it?
He landed the cleanest uppercut he could possibly land it it was soft as hell.
You could clearly see he can't crack an egg. You can feel a guys power even when you block it or it grazes you and Floyd literally laughed at it before deciding his power was so non existent that he could just walk right through him.
He wouldn't even do that to Guererro who is considered a realtively soft puncher.
Thoughts?
Being a good company man?
Too emotionally attached?
Edit: Let me put into context
Schaub was talking about how Floyd said Connor wasn't that hard of a puncher.
Rogan interjected with " But Connor did not look like he was putting a lot of power in his punches."
It's not easy to put power in punches. When I first started sparring, it took me 2 months to have a decent power in my punches and this is only for the technique.
One other thing that you have to deal with is fear. The more you punch hard, the more you can expect to get punched hard. Subconsciously, it plays a huge role. It takes time to learn to control fear and overcome it. And some will never find a way to overcome it.
No one talked about it but Mcgregor was scared af. Just before getting in the ring and when he was in the ring. You could tell and as soon as Floyd hit him hard, Mcgregor had near to no power in his punches. Psychology plays a huge role in boxing.
Read the book "iron mike" by mike tyson, if you have the chance. It's a brilliant book about Cus D'amato who was a mastermind and a great psychologist. You will better understand the psychological aspect of boxing after reading this.
He tried to throw hard shots in rounds 1-2 but after that he was just pitty patting trying to create openings. Was a mistake and just tired himself out.
He should have kept waiting for a big counter. Wasn't gonna beat floyd at a game of slap boxing/pitty patting.
My thoughts are that Joe isn't that same MMA fanboy making nonsensical arguments about how boxing sucks like the old days. Joe said it like it is and hyped the fight beforehand because what else was he going to do, abandon Conor and the UFC crowd? Schaub is a complete idiot. If you want a few laughs type in Brendan Schaub highlights on youtube.
But yea Joe actually is a big boxing fan does it the sport justice with his admiration he's been showing for Loma and others recently on his podcast. Schaub is what you call a Mcgregor fan in the the most derogatory way possible. He really makes UFC/MMA look like sh*t. On the Podcast today he said how he couldn't watch the ending of MayvsCon fight because it was too hard to watch (he was a Showtime broadcaster ffs) and that he didn't watch Rocky movies.
Hes not that big of a boxing fan. He might watch some fights but Ive listened to him talk and he doesnt know chit about boxing at all.
I might watch some MMA matches every blue moon. If I tried to hold a podcast on it Im sure I would say a lot of embarrassing things and technically wrong things. Thats joe rogan with boxing.