Why didn't Hagler challenge himself

Lol. Sugar Ray held a press conference to tell Hagler he wasn't fighting him in 82 or 83. Hagler never grew out of the middleweight division. Floyd grew out of the divisions. Floyd, could have spotted all those paper champs 30 lbs and still beat most of them Floyd never realy grew out of even 135 he just moved up because he was that good.But I agree with you on Haggler yo DONT HAVE to move up and still be great.Holding a div HOSTAGE for 7 yrs can still be as impressive imo.And your right Haggler never had prob makin 160 and their were MANY good fighters at 160 during his prime77-87

I never said he wasnt an ATG, quite the opposite actually lol The discussion is about why Hagler didnt fight at LHW like most great MW champs before. We just disagree worst things in world.

If you don't know who's undisputed you might as well stop watching boxing. And no, its not a short list, plenty top middleweights moved up, I just named the ones that came to mind and had the most famous fights. Plus theres a difference between unified and undisputed smh Your dodging the question again.

fight made in minutes? hagler took 5 years to fight one eyed welterweight SRL refused the rematch when it was a close fight and refused to fight at 175 because big scary men were there. Floyd fought at 130-154 with no problems, with men often outweighing him by 20 lbs. Oh and his close fights? He made immediate rematches unlike coward Hagler. Lol. Sugar Ray held a press conference to tell Hagler he wasn't fighting him in 82 or 83. Hagler never grew out of the middleweight division. Floyd grew out of the divisions. Floyd, could have spotted all those paper champs 30 lbs and still beat most of them

You may want to recheck your list. I think only Fitzimmons was undisputed. In any event that's a very short list you came up withafter you said... The discussion is about why Hagler didnt fight at LHW like most great MW champs before. If you don't know who's undisputed you might as well stop watching boxing. And no, its not a short list, plenty top middleweights moved up, I just named the ones that came to mind and had the most famous fights. Plus theres a difference between unified and undisputed smh

Robinson Hopkins Fitzsimmons Flowers Tiger could mention Leonard himself although he never fought at the full lhw limit etc etc You may want to recheck your list. I think only Fitzimmons was undisputed. In any event that's a very short list you came up withafter you said... The discussion is about why Hagler didnt fight at LHW like most great MW champs before.

ok thanks. cuz I could have swore he had fights at 47 and 54. I guess I was wrong. Thanks again for the correction so what does that mean?? anyway you look at it Duran fought 25 lbs over his division and Hagler did not fight one ounce over his division

Ok give me the names of all the Unified Middleweight Champions that moved up. Not guys that once held a title. Robinson Hopkins Fitzsimmons Flowers Tiger could mention Leonard himself although he never fought at the full lhw limit etc etc

We just gonna have to agree to disagree I have already pointed out why Haggler is CLEAR ATG but what ever. I never said he wasnt an ATG, quite the opposite actually lol The discussion is about why Hagler didnt fight at LHW like most great MW champs before.

How can any MWs have proved themselves to be great when Hagler was that dominant? You can still have fighters deemed, by their contemporaries, to be great. No one thinks of Minter, Antuo and whoever else as great. Now some were still very good fighters and this isnt an argument about Haglers place at middleweight. You would have to see the full discussion between me and john to understand why this arose.

Gayest post of the year, lmao. Go get an education moron. Better to be in a classroom than a BLM/Antifa march.

I'm pretty confident. You really don't know me lol. It's people like you that are insecure since you really don't have anything relevant to come back with, people like you play the "you're a racist/bigot" card. Wilder won so congrats to him so go suck him off while hating on Golovkin. :lol1: Gayest post of the year, lmao. Go get an education moron.

Insecure ass, lmao. I'm pretty confident. You really don't know me lol. It's people like you that are insecure since you really don't have anything relevant to come back with, people like you play the "you're a racist/bigot" card. Wilder won so congrats to him so go suck him off while hating on Golovkin. :lol1:

I bet when Wilder wins tonight you're going to be screaming "Black Power" with your fist in the air. Bet!! Yes, he's facing another black guy tonight but you know who's the relevant one. Insecure ass, lmao.

Dick Tiger was the champ at MW, moved up to LHW and became the champ there too. Maybe Greb? Mickey Walker (his weight jumping was hard to follow)? Gonna be a short list though. All the old timey weight jumps were hard. If you are talking champs who just moved up without winning the LHW title then the list would be longer. Yes it's a very short list but the OP can't seem to grasp this. Not only was Hagler Middleweight champ he was a unified champion. The incentive to move up wasn't there. Robert Duran who is one of my favorite fighters moved up for the money and because of weight issues. Gotta compare apples to apples.

Stfu, lmao. "Im not calling him great" shadafackup lmao...!!! I bet when Wilder wins tonight you're going to be screaming "Black Power" with your fist in the air. Bet!! Yes, he's facing another black guy tonight but you know who's the relevant one.

I knew you were full of shit. :lol1: As a Golovkin fan, I'm not calling him greatStfu, lmao. "Im not calling him great" shadafackup lmao...!!!

You guys give these clowns life when you have to argue about Hagler's greatness. Where do Monzon and Hagler rank, and then where does GG rank, lmao? I knew you were full of shit. :lol1: As a Golovkin fan, I'm not calling him great at MW yet till he retires but he has a better resume than Wilder and Crawford. I know it hurts your closed fist in air ass but learn to appreciate what Golovkin has done at MW. If Golovkin beats this new wave of MWs, you'd probably still hate. I'm cheering for him and Crawford at WW.

you eithe rbrought it up as a re d herring, or to imply that hagler should have moved up. why even mention a nonfactor 168 lb division? if you had a leg to stand on you wouldn't be acting like a baby and telling me to go find your point for you. take your L and come back stronger. Go read what I said and shut the fùck up until then.

You guys give these clowns life when you have to argue about Hagler's greatness. Where do Monzon and Hagler rank, and then where does GG rank, lmao? Naaw we talkin about Ezz Charles now lol