Best black boxers

Kid Gavilan! He beats any welter including Mayweather! You need to study the history of boxing not just boxrec champions. There are ATG's and HoF fighters all over Robinsons record from Welter to Middleweight. Just because you don't know them doesn't mean they don't exsist. Study on your own why should give you the answers when your not willing to study? Gavilan Basilio LaMotta Angott Servo Zivic Zanelli Wade Armstrong Villiamane Fusari Olson Basora Mimms Turpin Graziano Fullmer Pender Maxim Dupas Moyer Harrington Just to give you an example of your incompetence regarding boxing history! I know you never heard of a fighter named Ralph Dupas. Mr. Dupas fought from 1950 through 1966, he fought 135 times! He won 106 with only 19 ko's he lost 23 times only being stopped 7 times in 135 bouts with 6 draws! He was trained by Whitey Esneault and Angelo Dundee, he was from New Orleans and was inducted into the HoF in 2000. It takes time to learn anything. History comprehension takes researching and time and I doubt you have the aptitude for it! Stick to knowing lil" Floyd it doesn't take much to talk about him. Ray

"Sugar Ray Robinson never beat anyone good".............duh! This is all we need to know about you! "peeleft: another jackazz Ray Come on. Mention a guy he beat who wouldn't at best be a gatekeeper today. The thing is, you can't. SRR's legacy is about quantity, not quality.

Best black boxers = best boxers, period. Which is the exact reason why I just say black boxers instead of best boxers. I don't want the thread to be filled with white boxers from 1940, lol, I want it to be about the actually best. Whites doesn't even crack the top 20, but some fools dare to mention them in GOAT lists.

Why does it have to be "black" boxers? Why can't it just be "boxers"?

Oh so he was like Floyd, then? No Ray Leonard was a browler compare to Floyd lol He wasn't running a lot, just against Hagler..

I was only half-kidding. Given the racial nature of this board. But I suspect you've named not some, but ALL the "non-blacks" you can think of who might rate best all-time in a given weight class. NOBODY would argue for any non-blacks at HW. Duran and Chavez are totally arguable. There aren't many non-black options at those weights, but tons of black ones. Which is pretty good for 12% of the American population. I can't believe you put Greb as #1 MW. Monzon, arguably. But the other options at MW are all black, and there are lots and lots of them. I dont think that the 12% of the population means a lot, Italians were less than 1% and produced so many hofs. Boxing had been a sport of the ghettos and black communities were the most populous. Up to the 50s most of the greats at heavyweight were white, Marciano Schmeling Tunney Dempsey.. After Italians Irish Jews and other white communities left the ghettos boxing became a competition between Afro-Americans and Hispanics who started participating in boxing around that time. Blacks naturally bigger than Hispanics dominated the heavier divisions. Last two decades whites are back in the game mainly Eastern Europeans and British. A lot of Asians as well in the lighter divisions,with Pacquiao probably making it to the top 10 of all time. Boxing has become a global sport. About the middleweights i think you got it wrong most of the very greats are white or non-black basically. Grebb Monzon LaMota Ketchel Walker. Lightweight seems pretty even to me but Duran stands out for no1. At Junior Welter if not Chavez you can make an argument for Pryor but you can make for Tszyu too. Whats your take on that? The most black division seems to be the light Heavyweight, hardly any white in the top 10 of all time The most white division is definitely the super middleweight with Ward being the only highly ranked black and he is not even black I dont see any race being superior in the sport of boxing like it happens with other sports like basketball sprinting jumping weightlifting swimming gymnastics etc..

Sorry, were you going to name a great opponent in HIS prime that Floyd beat? I'm not talking about Floyd's prime. I'm looking for victories over other great fighters in their prime. Zip ziltch nada none. Diego Corrales 33-0 Ricky Hatton 43-0 Saul Alvarez 42-0 Alvarez is looking like he might go on to be great. Hatton and Corrales probably both fell short however they were both very good and in their primes when Floyd knocked them out not just beat them he stopped them both in ten.

Sorry, were you going to name a great opponent in HIS prime that Floyd beat? I'm not talking about Floyd's prime. I'm looking for victories over other great fighters in their prime. Zip ziltch nada none. Never lost to or ducked any great fighters either. Lets punish Floyd for not having Leonard or Duran in his era...

Was Floyd prime in 2015? 2010? 2002? His whole career was his prime. Dominated from start to end. That is what makes him so great. He was 38 when he fought Pac and everyone was talking about Pac being passed prime. Not 38 years old with a record of fighting bums or no hopers but fighting top level guys his whole career. Historic boxers will always be regarded higher than current ones. In 20 years time people will talk about Floyd like you guys talk about Leonard, Duran etc Sorry, were you going to name a great opponent in HIS prime that Floyd beat? I'm not talking about Floyd's prime. I'm looking for victories over other great fighters in their prime. Zip ziltch nada none.

No wins over great opponents in their prime. This places Floyd -- who is still great -- beneath those who beat guys like Benitez and Hearns in their primes. Floyd never did that. He beat a lot of small tiny little dudes like Marquez and Pacman. And past primers like DLH. All good, but still. Check your history. Floyd isn't the first great boxer. Was Floyd prime in 2015? 2010? 2002? His whole career was his prime. Dominated from start to end. That is what makes him so great. He was 38 when he fought Pac and everyone was talking about Pac being passed prime. Not 38 years old with a record of fighting bums or no hopers but fighting top level guys his whole career. Historic boxers will always be regarded higher than current ones. In 20 years time people will talk about Floyd like you guys talk about Leonard, Duran etc

Prime Roy Jones jr When he was running like a b1ch against Hagler he showed you that he only cared about your money and the W not your love. Great fighter but he dont deserve much love. Oh so he was like Floyd, then?

"Sugar Ray Robinson never beat anyone good".............duh! This is all we need to know about you! "peeleft: another jackazz Ray

Floyd Mayweather Dominated for 15 years. Never lost or even came close to losing apart from Castillo 1. What other fighter even came close to doing what Floyd did in the sport of boxing? He outclassed Cotto, Pacquiao, De la Hoya, Mosley, Canelo, Hatton, Corrales. People say they were passed prime yet Floyd was older than half of them. Him not taking punishment over the coarse of his career and be fresh at the age of 38 should only add to his legacy IMO No wins over great opponents in their prime. This places Floyd -- who is still great -- beneath those who beat guys like Benitez and Hearns in their primes. Floyd never did that. He beat a lot of small tiny little dudes like Marquez and Pacman. And past primers like DLH. All good, but still. Check your history. Floyd isn't the first great boxer.

Floyd Mayweather Dominated for 15 years. Never lost or even came close to losing apart from Castillo 1. What other fighter even came close to doing what Floyd did in the sport of boxing? He outclassed Cotto, Pacquiao, De la Hoya, Mosley, Canelo, Hatton, Corrales. People say they were passed prime yet Floyd was older than half of them. Him not taking punishment over the coarse of his career and be fresh at the age of 38 should only add to his legacy IMO

Now lets get real. Best featherweight of all time: Willie Pep Best lightweight: Roberto Duran Best super lightweight: Julio Cesar Chavez Best middleweigh: Harry Grebb - Carlos Monzon. You pick. Best super middleweight: Joe Calzaghe Just to name a few non blacks. Get off your high horse panther I was only half-kidding. Given the racial nature of this board. But I suspect you've named not some, but ALL the "non-blacks" you can think of who might rate best all-time in a given weight class. NOBODY would argue for any non-blacks at HW. Duran and Chavez are totally arguable. There aren't many non-black options at those weights, but tons of black ones. Which is pretty good for 12% of the American population. I can't believe you put Greb as #1 MW. Monzon, arguably. But the other options at MW are all black, and there are lots and lots of them.

no love for Ray Leonard? I am disappoint. When he was running like a b1ch against Hagler he showed you that he only cared about your money and the W not your love. Great fighter but he dont deserve much love.

Sugar Ray Robinson never beat anyone good. He had a good record, though. Lewis is the best heavyweight ever, that means a lot. RJJ is the best middleweight, super middleweight and light heavyweight. Please kys next time instead of talking about fighters you don't know about smh

Best black boxers = best boxers, period. Now lets get real. Best featherweight of all time: Willie Pep Best lightweight: Roberto Duran Best super lightweight: Julio Cesar Chavez Best middleweigh: Harry Grebb - Carlos Monzon. You pick. Best super middleweight: Joe Calzaghe Just to name a few non blacks. Get off your high horse panther

You think too much of RJJ and Lewis. Both great fighters though. Now lets get real. Best featherweight of all time: Willie Pep Best lightweight: Roberto Duran Best super lightweight: Julio Cesar Chavez Best middleweigh: Harry Grebb - Carlos Monzon. You pick. Best super middleweight: Joe Calzaghe Just to name a few non blacks. Get off your high horse panther ???? The thread is about the best Black boxers of all time. I think Micheal Spinks is one fighter that should be on that list. He's never given the credit he deserves.

Probably Sam Eggington.