Love him, hate him but Mayweather Has been Good for Boxing

Good post. Floyd has a tremendous work ethic and he honed his skills to the maximum on top of that. That's a great combination and it made him unbeatable during his era. Lots of other boxers would do well to learn from his example. Look at Deontay Wilder for instance,who thinks he doesn't need to work on his skills because he's a heavyweight with power. Dumb. That just limits how dangerous he could be. Or how about Frankie Gomez? Everyone says he's one of the most talented boxers out there. But how many times has he cheated his gift by not being disciplined enough to put in work, even going missing from training camp? Dumb. He is just stunting his own growth that way and his tree won't bear all the fruit that it should have. Wasted talent everywhere. Honestly I think this is the case with Broner. I think he took risks by moving up quickly and fighting tough fighters out of arrogance not not necessarily due to a healthy amount of confidence. I think he felt entitled to wins rather than knowing he had to earn them. I remember Mayweather saying he trained harder for Berto than Pacquiao, probably because he knew how embarrising it would be to lose to Berto. This gave me a sense that he never felt entitled to any win no matter the opponent. While Broner has been known to eat junk food and party before a big fight.

Funny thing is I actually became a hardcore fan because of Mayweather. I watched boxing on off for years but I never knew the schedules or fighters. I'd literally just watch it sometimes when I saw it on when browsing channels. But then I started working at a cable company in customer service and saw ppv's free. Any Mayweather ppv was always a very busy night so, there over 1000 calls in the queue for May vs Pac. But since working there, I started watching his fights and learning more about the welterweight division and then started watching other divisions. That started with Gurerro in 2013. Since then, I've been a hardcore fan.

Floyd did a remarkable thing outside the ring. He took control of his own career and made himself a fortune. I'm not fond if his fighting style after he moved up in weight but I hope he totally humiliates Connor. I'd rather he makes a fool of McGregor than knocking him out. McGregor is an *******.

Good post. Floyd has a tremendous work ethic and he honed his skills to the maximum on top of that. That's a great combination and it made him unbeatable during his era. Lots of other boxers would do well to learn from his example. Look at Deontay Wilder for instance, who thinks he doesn't need to work on his skills because he's a heavyweight with power. Dumb. That just limits how dangerous he could be. Or how about Frankie Gomez? Everyone says he's one of the most talented boxers out there. But how many times has he cheated his gift by not being disciplined enough to put in work, even going missing from training camp? Dumb. He is just stunting his own growth that way and his tree won't bear all the fruit that it should have. Wasted talent everywhere.

He really hasn't. But if he wins this fight he will be. If he loses, he will be the biggest sht streak the sport has ever seen. Most of the latter part of this guys career has been spent killing the sport. When he finally retires and we finally have the game putting itself back together by making the fights we want to see and not marinated for 5 years, enter again Floyd Joy Sinclair, and loses to an MMA hypejob, dropkicking the sport back into embarrassment and possibly a never ending coma. Seriously, if he loses to Mcgregor.....but if he dominates, yea, it boosts the sport, but it will be really the only boost he's done. Pacquiao was the FOTD because he carried the btch on his shoulders. Fool, Pacman was milking the sport for ppv dollars, while you all called him the savior of the sport. He was fighting all those meaningless fights and putting them on ppv and just robbing the bank. Last time Floyd had a meaningless fight it was Berto and Conor. But when Floyd and Pac werent fighting eachother, Floyd was facing all those bigass young fighters. Pacman was fighting back to back losers. Look at that Mosley farce how it played out and got 1.3 million ppv buys. After what happen with Floyd and Mosley, its no way Mosley should have been in a ppv fight with Pac, and the results show. The Margarita fight was another bs fight, but at least it was exciting. But the Clottey fight. Clottey's bumazz, after losing to Cotto didnt deserve to PPV fight and see how that turned out. Pac padded his ww record with these types of fights. And JMM was supposed to be a cherrypick, but it backfired. JMM was 40yrs old, fat, slow. Floyd ducked Pacman, but cleaned up every single opponent at and around the weight class, in doing so. Pac used Floyd ducking him, as an excuse to make all those trash fights and milked the sport, while you all called him a savior. Pac hurt the sport. Floyd was putting on legit events. I cant even think of the last time Pac fought a real opponent. Cotto, Floyd, and Bradley? But Bradley was just a soft punching jrww with tactical skills. It wasnt a real fight, and I felt he should've had to fight Ortiz or Berto to get a Pac fight, because they were the #2 in the division. Pac rarely faces ranked fighter. Floyd always faced whoever was in the top 3.

how was he good for boxing? the masses don't enjoy his fights... they just been hoping that he gets beat for years... if any casual watches his fights they don't come back for me... they fall asleep and say never again... Plus he set the blueprint to act like a diva and choose when to fight certain fighters... that's just the truth... i don't see why the hell he fought ortiz, guerrero, maidana, or berto... exciting boxers are good for boxing... mad props to floyd for making so many millions by mind f u ckin the masses for years though Exciting boxers are great for boxing; Floyd (and Haymon, tbh) simply helped open the eyes of everyone, exciting or not, that boxers don't always have to end up broke. Make sure your business is handled properly, fight your heart out in the actual fight, and sock as much money away as you can in stuff that you can understand. That's the model going forward. Not every boxer is going to end up rich like Floyd, but far more fighters will leave the sport with something tangible to hold onto, for them and their families, because of how Floyd handled his business.

The problem for me is that so many young fighters now look at him and think the way to all that success and money is stay undefeated and take minimal risks, so they try to manage their own career in that way. The thing is though, Floyd never took an easy route early on. He wasn't really that selective until late on in his career, but that's also the Floyd that made a lot of money and that's what young fighters now see. I don't blame Floyd for that though, he did what was best for his career as he should and fair play to him but i think it has influenced a new generation of boxers in a way that is detrimental to the sport, but it wasn't purposely done for that reason of influencing people, he was just looking out for his own career. So yeah, i don't think his influence has been good for the sport, but i don't blame him for anything either. If people want to point the finger at Floyd for "damaging the sport", then people must also direct the blame in other directions too. The fans and boxing business allowed him to do it. Nobody was forced to buy his fights. It's up to the new era to change things and up to the fans to force the industry to make the best fights if they want fans to buy it. Promoters and TV networks would be forced to make good fights if the fans stop paying for bullsh1t fights. For every Adrien Broner who saw Floyd's career that way, there are a couple Errol Spence Jr's, Mikey Garcia's and Andre Ward's. For all the flash of Floyd, he never half-assed the preparation for a single fight and he and his camp made sure that his business was properly handled to his benefit before committing to anything. Beyond that, once Floyd did commit, he worked all obligations without much issue (gloves in Maidana 1 aside). Beyond boxing, personal character has more to do with how folks react; when it comes to the boxing business, though, I can't think of much better examples to follow than Floyd.

Mayweather has been good for MAYWEATHER! That being said, not his fault that more Superstars wasn't developed while him and Pacquiao had the WORLD watching boxing is the other Promoters Fault for not taking advantage of that ERA MORE!

First off, I am not a Mayweather fan. I am a boxing fan but the most recent dumping on Floyd is out of line; OK, we boxing fans may have dumped on him at one time or another but fine, that’s what we do. He gets paid for attention and at one time or another we all have different favorites in different bouts. Now that this mega-event with McGregor is going to takes place there is dumping by MMA fans and casual MMA/Boxing fans alike. Maybe that’s deserving of him for taking part in this event to begin with, but come on for $100 Million, like it or not but accept it, boxing at the highest level is all about one thing. Same is true for McGregor as to why, the money, more than he would ever make or deserve otherwise but for his self-promotion and for that he gets an A+. Why do boxing fans want to see him tore down but to build up McGregor? He’s the greatest boxer of his generation, as was the “GOAT, Sugar Ray Robinson”, one and probably only one of the few things that 50%+ boxing fans can agree on is that Ray is the GOAT. So I use Ray as a comparison to Floyd not they are comparable but they can be compared. Of course, Floyd doesn’t have as many fights 49 vs 198 but comparable or higher than competition for his era. Competition, there’s the big word, no he didn’t have Pender, Fullmer, Basillio, Olsen, Maxim, Graziani, Turpin, LaMotta, Gavilan, Bell, Armstrong, et al. but he did have Pacquiao, Maidana, Alvarez, Cotto, Ortiz, Mosley, Marquez, Hatton, DeLaHoya, Baldomir, Judah, Gatti, Castillo and Corrales. Not a bad bunch of names, either way both fought the best of their respective era. He is also famous/infamous for something else he had in common with the GOAT, they didn’t get hit a lot. Both avoided punishment through skills. Ray was the foundation upon which all the “Sugars”, “The Greatest” and “Money Man” built their styles. Hitting without getting hit, that is what the “Sweet Science” is all about, right? I don’t like his style, it bores me but he wins and like it or not it’s copied because it’s effective and just like Sugar Ray Robinson kids can copy but no one can compare to the original. In 10, 20 years from now he will be a legendary. Also, like it or not, Mayweather has been the driving influence in boxing during the recent decade(s) of drought. He and he alone has been the one to drive interest in boxing when no one else could, of course Pacquaio and now Alvarez but their influence is only relative to Mayweather. In a drought you may not like the rainmaker but you need the rain. I don’t expect boxing purest of which I am one or racist of which I am not, to love him but serious boxing fans need to give him his credit. It’s a lose/lose for Mayweather vs McGregor. He wins, it’s he should have won he fought against an MMA champion but boxing amateur. I can hear it already,” if it had been in the MMA cage” then…… On this one, we true boxing fans should stick together and not let the boxing casuals and MMA fans denigrate one of our own. Like him, love him or hate him but please support the sport and support him against folks that want to degrade him for being a boxer in the sport of Boxing. Yes, it’s about the money and Mayweather could care less about how we feel and yes, it’s not an event that’s worthy of breaking Marciano’s record but he is still one of our own; like it or not. I think you're missing the point. HBO and the old guard of boxing (Arum, Oscar, Main Events, etc) and their writers (Rafael, Kim, Fischer, etc) have all hitched their wagons to Alvarez-Golovkin being the only fight worth paying attention to, and the folks tied in with that are pushing the same message. No mention of Golovkin-Jacobs warranting a rematch, no mention of the **** show that ended up being Alvarez-ChavezJr, no mention of the Billy Joe Saunders fight, etc. The old guard has a fight that works for them, the old guard has been against Floyd since he bet on himself and won, and the narrative had carried on since Floyd fought on HIS show against Baldomir. Hasn't changed in the past, won't change now, and likely won't change in the future (Floyd hasn't taken enough punishment to get the sympathy turn that Ali got once Parkinson's ravaged his body, and I'm fairly certain that Floyd won't go broke, eliminating the sympathy that would come for having to make appearances to simply keep the lights on). Take it for what it is and move on

Those dudes live a fantasy world where more people paying attention to boxing is bad. How else do you convince yourself that one of the only guys getting people to pay attention to boxing has been bad for the sport? Apparently Ward and Kov giving the fans "what they want" while losing money and selling under 100k ppv's is "good for the sport".

Good? Hell no! Mayweather's been a total disservice for boxing. He made his money but it came at boxing's expense and integrity. He made the sport look soft and sissy with all his running, hugging and safety first stance. The disrespectful May-McBurger sh itshow isn't even worth streaming.

I can't stand Mayweather, but there is no doubt he has been good for the sport. Love him or hate him, people tune in to see Floyd fight!

how was he good for boxing? the masses don't enjoy his fights... they just been hoping that he gets beat for years... if any casual watches his fights they don't come back for me... they fall asleep and say never again... Plus he set the blueprint to act like a diva and choose when to fight certain fighters... that's just the truth... i don't see why the hell he fought ortiz, guerrero, maidana, or berto... exciting boxers are good for boxing... mad props to floyd for making so many millions by mind f u ckin the masses for years though 'ALL PRESS IS GOOD PRESS' in the vacuum that was boxing in the last decade, Mayweather vs whomever keep the lights on boxing. He did his share of damage but he and his fights attention more than out weigh the damage.

how was he good for boxing? the masses don't enjoy his fights... they just been hoping that he gets beat for years... if any casual watches his fights they don't come back for me... they fall asleep and say never again... Plus he set the blueprint to act like a diva and choose when to fight certain fighters... that's just the truth... i don't see why the hell he fought ortiz, guerrero, maidana, or berto... exciting boxers are good for boxing... mad props to floyd for making so many millions by mind f u ckin the masses for years though

The problem for me is that so many young fighters now look at him and think the way to all that success and money is stay undefeated and take minimal risks, so they try to manage their own career in that way. The thing is though, Floyd never took an easy route early on. He wasn't really that selective until late on in his career, but that's also the Floyd that made a lot of money and that's what young fighters now see. I don't blame Floyd for that though, he did what was best for his career as he should and fair play to him but i think it has influenced a new generation of boxers in a way that is detrimental to the sport, but it wasn't purposely done for that reason of influencing people, he was just looking out for his own career. So yeah, i don't think his influence has been good for the sport, but i don't blame him for anything either. If people want to point the finger at Floyd for "damaging the sport", then people must also direct the blame in other directions too. The fans and boxing business allowed him to do it. Nobody was forced to buy his fights. It's up to the new era to change things and up to the fans to force the industry to make the best fights if they want fans to buy it. Promoters and TV networks would be forced to make good fights if the fans stop paying for bullsh1t fights. I agree with everything you said, I see young guys all the time and all they think is, Mayweather=Money. Well it worked for him but 1:1,000,000+ don't have his genetics or work ethic so it has hurt in that these kids could be good boxers but for their emulation of Floyd.

Great post, good analysis. As far as this fight goes, I really have no opinion on it. One thing is for sure, though, it will bring a lot of attention to boxing. And, of course, I'll support Floyd on fight night.

The problem for me is that so many young fighters now look at him and think the way to all that success and money is stay undefeated and take minimal risks, so they try to manage their own career in that way. The thing is though, Floyd never took an easy route early on. He wasn't really that selective until late on in his career, but that's also the Floyd that made a lot of money and that's what young fighters now see. I don't blame Floyd for that though, he did what was best for his career as he should and fair play to him but i think it has influenced a new generation of boxers in a way that is detrimental to the sport, but it wasn't purposely done for that reason of influencing people, he was just looking out for his own career. So yeah, i don't think his influence has been good for the sport, but i don't blame him for anything either. If people want to point the finger at Floyd for "damaging the sport", then people must also direct the blame in other directions too. The fans and boxing business allowed him to do it. Nobody was forced to buy his fights. It's up to the new era to change things and up to the fans to force the industry to make the best fights if they want fans to buy it. Promoters and TV networks would be forced to make good fights if the fans stop paying for bullsh1t fights.

He really hasn't. But if he wins this fight he will be. If he loses, he will be the biggest sht streak the sport has ever seen. Most of the latter part of this guys career has been spent killing the sport. When he finally retires and we finally have the game putting itself back together by making the fights we want to see and not marinated for 5 years, enter again Floyd Joy Sinclair, and loses to an MMA hypejob, dropkicking the sport back into embarrassment and possibly a never ending coma. Seriously, if he loses to Mcgregor.....but if he dominates, yea, it boosts the sport, but it will be really the only boost he's done. Pacquiao was the FOTD because he carried the btch on his shoulders.

If Boxing fans don't support him against Conor then they are traitors and don't deserve to be the premier combat sport anymore.

He broke a glass ceiling by being the first defensive wizard PPV King. The Monkey's Paw part of that is he was only able to do it by making everyone hate him so much that they'll pay just hoping to see him lose :rofl: