Terence Crawford is unbeatable!

Even if Crawford can't keep him off of him, Porter smothers his own best work & Crawford can eek out a close decision through the gaps Porter gives him. I think Crawford gots too many tools to use against Porter & Porter is a one lane driver on a 6 lane expressway. He's just not gonna beat the better guys. Plus I'd add he's a guy who's gonna burn out quicker than all the rest of these 147lb guys cuz these types of fighters in your face all night almost always start quieting down around 30, 31, 32 years old & being done at the elite level so in another 12-18 months when this fight might legit be happening (I suspect we see Indongo in a couple weeks, Horn or maybe a Jessie Vargas-if he figures out his TR issues, or some other TR affiliated or unaffiliated with a big promoter 147lber in Dec/Jan 2018 & then Manny or Horn around spring/early summer, thus Crawford vs a non-TR PBC type guy isn't happening for a year best case imo) Porter might not even be at 70% of the guy we saw give Thurman & Brook competitive fights. So we ain't seeing this anytime soon so fair enough on agreeing to disagree. Bump this thread in the summer of 2018 someone & one of us might be on the way to being proven right or wrong. Yeah, these fights might not even happen

In fairness I don't get why people think Ortiz is something special, but I can see why people think Crawford is. And thats not even to say Ortiz can't be the man at HW or Crawford will be the man at WW, but I think Crawford's talent is something that will get him further than Ortiz's talent will get him in their respective futures in boxing. I've seen enough from Crawford in his couple of meaningful fights that I've not seen in any fight Ortiz has had + while Crawford will need to have the actual W's before he gets credit for speculative W's, like we are discussing, I definitely see him capable of being a top five 147lber in his future. Idk about the #1 guy, but he's gonna beat more 147lbers then he loses to at the top ten level, Porter being one of them largely cuz Porter boxes too ineffectively to have much of a winning record vs top ten guys (believe he's 3-2 vs top ten guys) who tend to have a above average ring IQ in a high level competitive division at 147. Ok, we'll just agree to disagree. I'm just having a hard time seeing Crawford keeping Porter off of him

I don't think anyone is unbeatable. I think Indongo could even bring forth a competitive strategy that could take Crawford's 0. I still standby Crawford's chin being bad or questionable which I suspect a guy like Lipinets could take advantage of despite being inferior to Crawford in most every other measurable attribute. I think more than a couple of the tip top 147lbers will or would beat him, most namely Errol Spence. I agree, Spence beats him. That Is a super fight down the road.

Porter vs anyone is a dog fight. Thats how he fights. He wants to be in your chest all night, he wants to be active. And sure Crawford has a soft resume vs a lot of the top 147lbers, he's in a softer division, but there are still the dynamics of each fighters style & attributes. Fights aren't won or lose on resumes, they are won & lost on styles & attributes & Porter fights the same vs the 120th best guy in the world or the 2nd best guy in the world & thats just not gonna beat a guy as versatile as Crawford has shown himself to be more often then not, regardless of who Crawford has or hasn't beaten. Yes, bit of fighter a doesn't have no bodies on his resume then I can't give him the benefit of the doubt. It's like Joshua vs Ortiz. So you really think I'm picking Ortiz when Josh has the better resume

Interesting comparison with Maidana & Porter. Idk if I'd fully agree or disagree with that. I can see why you are saying it doe. Outwardly Porter gots all the attributes to make one the better boxer of the two, BUT I think Maidana puts the attributes he has into a better more effective package. Regardless about that interesting comparison I think a fight between Porter & Crawford isn't gonna be decided on size. I don't think Crawford is small enough or weaker enough nor Porter big enough or stronger enough that the outcome gets decided on it. I think Porter, while a better athlete + the stronger of the two is higher ineffective with his over aggression far too often to not get outmaneuvered & outlanded by the smarter Crawford. I'd probably consider Crawford a 65/35, 70/30 favorite if I were to break it down in percentages. Go back and look at Thurman vs Porter and Brook vs Porter. Thurman is bigger than Crawford plus he is better at fighting off the backfoot and he has the better defense. But yet Porter still was able to cut off the ring and make it a dog fight. Hell, even vs Brook he did a pretty good job at getting in on the inside. I'm sorry but when you look at who Crawford has faced and compared them to Porter, you will see that Porter(who is considered just a contender) is better than anyone Crawford has faced. I know we love to **** on GGG's resume but you can't sit just sit there and make it seem as if Crawford is going to beat all these guys when he has a pretty weak resume.

i really don't see anyone that can beat him. i agree. Crawford is a beast!

Wait so you're saying Crawford loses to Porter? Or that Crawford is physically stronger than Porter? Or just punches harder? Cuz 1)I think Crawford's boxing IQ dances around Porter's & would be the main factor in him winning (I hadn't even considered the fights with Thurman & Brook in regards to who wins really & I'd disagree either guy "handled" Porter cuz both fights were competitive). 2)I don't think Crawford is stronger than Porter, but 3)I do think that Crawford punches harder, if not just more effectively which results in more power, or equally although primarily I don't think strength would even be a primary deciding factor in this theorized fight. Shawn Porter is Marcos Madianna on steroids plus he is a better boxer. Crawford may be more skilled but Porter is bigger and stronger. Picture the Floyd vs Madianna but a super sayned version of Madianna against a smaller version of Floyd without the defense. I favor Porter 55/45. In order to dominate higher weights, you have to either have exceptional defense, speed, or power. Crawford has neither. People forget​ that size and strength matter.

I think Thurman is competitive with him. And I don't even think a guy like Porter, who I bet most would say Crawford stops or damn near 12-0's, would be an easy win for Crawford although thats a fight I'd favor Crawford in. You're looking at it, I assume, from the stand point that Thurman and Brook handled him well that means Porter would probably lost. But there is a huge disparity between Crawford and Porter when it comes to Strength. And I believe that would be the difference maker

Spence is the only one I see being competitive with him up to to 147. Porter and Thurman would push him to the edge. Why is it so hard for you guys to realize that size, power, and strength matter?

Besides Gamboa, that isn't anything special. Especially for being over 30 fights. Trust me I want him to succeed and go far but I'm not going to hype something up that I don't think is all that compared to others. Do you feel the same way about GGG, Spence, and Loma

Postol,Gamboa,Burns,Beltran. Indongo next I think he has a good resume at 147 is where he will make his mark tho. That list is not great. Porter, Garcia, Thurman, Spence, all have better resumes

Crawford has the size and speed to beat all 3 of them power doesn't mean **** at this level! Crawford is not a natural welterweight. He is a natural 135-140 pounder. Those 147 pounders are skinny middle weights

Postol,Gamboa,Burns,Beltran. Indongo next I think he has a good resume at 147 is where he will make his mark tho. Besides Gamboa, that isn't anything special. Especially for being over 30 fights. Trust me I want him to succeed and go far but I'm not going to hype something up that I don't think is all that compared to others.

He hasn't faced anyone really good yet. Just decent ok dudes outside of Gamboa who was too small for Crawford. Hope to see him actually challenged soon. Postol,Gamboa,Burns,Beltran. Indongo next I think he has a good resume at 147 is where he will make his mark tho.

He hasn't faced anyone really good yet. Just decent ok dudes outside of Gamboa who was too small for Crawford. Hope to see him actually challenged soon.

I think Porter, Thurman, and Spence beat him due to size, speed, and power. Crawford hasn't beaten anyone on their level Crawford has the size and speed to beat all 3 of them power doesn't mean **** at this level!

147 is a top division, 168 is a ****ing graveyard. Hardly, there are good fights at 168 to be made. With more credible names than most of the surviving people at 160. Ramirez vs Hart winner, Groves, Eubank, Anthony Dirrel maybe even andre. James degale or badou Jack, David Benavidez and callum smith can be pontential fights too. **** even a fight against the official 168 lb gatekeeper in abraham is an ok name to have on his resume.

Crawford is great so far, but I want to see him vs the top 5 of 147.

wards not cleared out 175.... He's still number one in his division and the pound for pound best boxer in the world. When he wins a title in a third weight class you can cry some more too.

I think Porter, Thurman, and Spence beat him due to size, speed, and power. Crawford hasn't beaten anyone on their level