Márquez transformation...

Lomachenko is too small. His frame is small. The head, shoulders, neck, bones. I don't see him at more than 135.

Oh yeah...Loma should probably go no higher than 135. 140 for the right fight. I've heard he can still make feather if he pushed it, but he is very comfortable at 130.

Some of these posts remind me of a tweet Morales sent out after Marquez KO'd Pac. He wrote, "The Mexican Pharmacy won!" It was quickly deleted, but LOL... Training with Memo in Mexico was suspect, sure. I remember this one drill they were doing on one of the pre fight shows. Marquez was launching a medicine ball at Memo from across the room. It was mostly with the right hand. No doubt it was meant to enhance his straight right, but I also recall Marquez erupting on Memo for not throwing the ball at him a certain way. He cussed him out bad. Didn't know Marquez to be a hot head like that. Was he on something? Maybe, but that right hand that put Pac to sleep was placed perfectly. Pac was going for the kill and got sloppy. He walked right into it. However no one can deny the proficiency of Marquez throughout his whole career. That said, he did not have all that much success above 140. There's the Pac KO and then dec. vs a shop worn and coked out Alvarado. He was dominated by Bradley and Floyd.

Lomachenko's Max is 140. No way he could go higher, unless of course he hires Memo... Márquez used to have Lomachenko body at feather/superfeather.... Loma has the height to put some decent amount of muscle and fight 140 and 147 pounders with a good power training (like JMMs new power at 147)

hooks up with memo and goes from a chubby bunny at 142 against floyd to the hulk in his 40's. one of the more obvious PED cases in the history of this sport. you have to be crazy not to look at marquez literally going through a second puberty, acne and all, under heredia and not realize that he was on synthetic testosterone and a slew of other drugs. I do not think that JMM cheated.

in those 2 pictures, the biggest difference is he has a tan in the second. not much of a difference from what i can tell, but get better photos for comparison. He is lean in both pictures, but in the second one he weighs a lot more...

Lomachenko's Max is 140. No way he could go higher, unless of course he hires Memo...

If Marquez wason roids so was Pacquiao......it was an even playing field. Pacquiao asked marquez to do drug testing and marquez replied that he would do it if Pacquiao did with him....pacquiao said no. Pacquiao is a juicer.

The same tardos that can look at these two virtually identical photos and see definite PED use, look at Pacquiao's head turn into the great pumpkin and tell everyone it's just the haircut :rofl: :rofl::rofl:

Marquez one of the greats in boxing. Pure fundamental style and counterpunching genius. In his prime I'd put him against anyone in his division WW or otherwise. Maestro Dinamita. He moved up in weight because he want to fight with Pacquiao. But he has the quality to make a great reign in 135 pounds

his still small WWW and fought only good small WWs ,big WW like Floyd or Cotto give him hell.

Marquez has never even hit 147 on the scales... One of the very few warriors that never bîtched on the scales. Shockingly, PAC should never have fought Marquez at 147. That's Marquez's sweet spot weight to put homefries to sleep! you genuinely know nothing about boxing if you think that's true.

This whole new found power always baffled me. You know at the time of Marquezs 4th fight with Pacquiao he had 39KO victories out of 54? I know the whole memo thing is suspect as hell but Marquez was always very accurate and hit like a donkey kicks. He just wasnt the fastest guy ever but had good reflex and timing. marquez was not a big, one punch puncher. he beat on juan diaz with combinations for several rounds. katsidis, too. when he fought floyd in '09 he looked like a fly hitting a windshield. then he hooks up with a dude who exchanged testimony to avoid jailtime regarding the balco scandal, and is a self professed steroid guru, and goes through puberty again? acne and all? acne on a 38-40 year old man? cmon. enough of this garbage. heredia injecting himself with illegal PE drugs in this documentary. goes to mexico to get them. couldn't find a better quality version of the doc with english subs, but most of you have probably seen it in teh past. if you have not, look into heredia's past and do some research, the guy is a steroid guru and a convicted cheat. he has a background in developing, manufacturing, and selling banned drugs to athletes, and is on record saying he used them himself when he tried to become an olympic discuss thrower for mexico. google trevor graham, angel guillermo heredia hernandez, and you'll find out all you need to know. i'd post the beest articles, but i don't have the time this morning.

After he gets accused all of a sudden he isnt the old Pac we all knew, thats suspect as hell. He was moving up in weight against bigger opponents. The power just didn't carry. Mayweather moved up the same amount of weight in the same amount of time and he KO'd more opponents after 140, but not suspect?

The same tardos that can look at these two virtually identical photos and see definite PED use, look at Pacquiao's head turn into the great pumpkin and tell everyone it's just the haircut :rofl:

Marquez was juiced in the 3rd fight too. He was juicing before that even (no one remember REED making a thred talking about marquez massive new traps?). But 3rd and 4th the drugs and training had peaked for the 40 year old. The real difference between the 3rd and 4th fight with pacquiao was that Pacquiao did NO strength & conditioning, so ofcourse he's going to be ragged dolled around by a juice head.

He just evened the playing field. Bingo!!!!!!

Evened the playing field how? Pac never showed any signs of PED use, and was never suspect until Floyd used false accusations as a ploy to duck him in his prime. Marquez has some very obvious signs of PED use that cannot be denied. After he gets accused all of a sudden he isnt the old Pac we all knew, thats suspect as hell.

you just spent a good time defending marquez on your earlier post and now you're saying he just even the playing field? LOL. so you admit he was juiced up then. I said in my post the whole memo thing is suspect but I cant say Pac isnt suspect at all either. He gets accused of PEDs then all of a sudden cant TKO anyone? C'mon bro.

He just evened the playing field. Evened the playing field how? Pac never showed any signs of PED use, and was never suspect until Floyd used false accusations as a ploy to duck him in his prime. Marquez has some very obvious signs of PED use that cannot be denied.