Kellerman on PEDs

It was well documented that Floyd Mayweather was making a stand to clean up boxing Floyd said: @ 00:20 - Nevada commission is one of the best commision in the world (that's why they absolved me by giving me that late TUE exemption lol) And My ultimate goal is not just USADA (WHO GAVE ME ILLEGAL IVS) and the sport of boxing, but For USADA AND PROFESSIONAL SPORTS PERIOD. @ 0:36 - Because there is too much cheating going on in sports! lololololololol Victor Conte talks about Floyd's low T/E ratio Probably the most suspicious part for me: A normal testosterone-to-epitestosterone ratio is slightly more than 1-to-1. Conte says that one recent study of the general population “placed the average T-E ratio for whites at 1.2-to-1 and for blacks at 1.3-to-1.” Under WADA standards, a testosterone-to-epitestosterone ratio of up to 4-to-1 is acceptable. That allows for any reasonable variation in an athlete’s natural testosterone level (which, for an elite athlete, might be particularly high). If the ratio is above 4-to-1, an athlete is presumed to be doping. Some athletes who use exogenous testosterone game the system by administering exogenous epitestosterone to drive their testosterone-to-epitestosterone ratio down beneath the permitted ceiling. This can be done by injection or by the application of epitestosterone as a cream. In the absence of a CIR test, this masks the use of synthetic testosterone. But there’s a catch. If an athlete tries to manipulate his or her testosterone-to-epitestosterone ratio, it is difficult to balance the outcome. If an athlete uses too much epitestosterone - and the precise amount is difficult to calibrate - the result can be an abnormally low T-E ratio. Mayweather’s testosterone-to-epitestosterone ratio for the April 3, 2013, sample was 0.80. His testosterone-to-epitestosterone ratio for the Aug. 18, 2011, sample was 0.69. “That’s a warning flag,” says Don Catlin. “If you’re serious about the testing, it tells you to do the CIR test.” The Nevada State Athletic Commission wasn’t as knowledgeable with regard to PED testing several years ago as it is now. Commission personnel might not have understood the possible implications of the 0.69 and 0.80 numbers. But USADA officials were knowledgeable. http://i.imgur.com/rxPYIvm.jpg?1 https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Y-08OVrKBOc/hqdefault.jpg This is confusing. If a T/E RATIO is suspicious then WADA protocols require the lab to CIR test the sample and a separate procedure for ABP test. It has been revealed that WADA labs did CIR test along with ABP steroid module test on all of Floyd's samples. Victor Conte wasn't aware of this at the time of the article. Why are you still posting this?

http://i.imgur.com/rxPYIvm.jpg I was gonna ignore your post like I usually do but couldn't help notice you used my meme :lol1: Thumbs up for that bro :fing02:

Pacquiao is the epitome of ped cheat.....

When Floyd announced he wanted to clean up boxing, it was the perfect diversion. Make people THINK you want to clean up the sport when all you really want to do is divert attention away from yourself and onto others. Perfect smoke and mirrors job. No doubt USADA is corrupt, as is NSAC.

Boxing is almost to the point MLB was years ago....be suspicious of everybody.

Saw the title and Initially thought you meant Kellerman was on PEDS. Amazing what being up 28 hours straight will do to you. You know how the story goes, when you are younger It Is not a problem, unfortunately I am no longer younger.

All these top athletes (all sports) are on some form of performance enhancing drugs.

I truly believe that Max is on PEDs. Without them he'd be running from gym to gym using his phone to record interviews like Elie does. At least Elie gets the real scope on things & interviews while max says what he is & isn't allowed to say on hbo.....You can tell how max's tune changed as soon as he got on hbo right after the Floyd vs #38 fight. Even when he said who would you rather be in this fight, when Hopkins fought joke calslappy he was saying that B-Hop was landing the clean effective punches but "they" didn't like max saying that.....

They should just allow PEDs and put all these drug testing bodies out of business I know this is a very controversial route to take but it would once and for all level the playing the field

I'm not disagreeing at all, there's always attempts to gain an advantage, whether in supplement form, or illegal ways. Is it tempting to try to compete with one who is juicing, knowing you're clean and that increases your likelihood of losing, getting, injured, etc? Absolutely. What people don't understand here is they pick and choose who is and isn't using because it's their favorite fighter...they need to face facts that they likely are using something. Oh yeah no question bud and I wasn't trying to imply that you were disagreeing by the way

You know...I don't wanna sound like an apologist for PED users -- and I'm not just talking boxing, but in professional sports across the board -- when you're talking potentially millions of dollars at stake...I can see why and how it would/could heavily intrigue a professional athlete. Let's face it, at the end of the day, for the vast majority of professional athletes, it ain't about the glory or the legacy. It's about money. And we're talking literally millions of dollars that separate guys at the top levels of their sport from the lower levels. For instance, if you're a backup offensive lineman in the NFL, you may only be making a million a year. But a starter? A good one? That guy may be making literally ten times as much as the guy riding the bench. I mean if PEDs were the edge one needed to be the difference between 5 to 10 million a year, versus 750K to 1 mil a year...that would be awfully tempting, wouldn't it? I'm not disagreeing at all, there's always attempts to gain an advantage, whether in supplement form, or illegal ways. Is it tempting to try to compete with one who is juicing, knowing you're clean and that increases your likelihood of losing, getting, injured, etc? Absolutely. What people don't understand here is they pick and choose who is and isn't using because it's their favorite fighter...they need to face facts that they likely are using something.

They should just allow PEDs and put all these drug testing bodies out of business

It's not always about punching power. Sometimes people use PEDs for faster recovery or longer work outs. Oh yeah, absolutely.

even as a fan of mayweathers skills it wouldnt surprise me if has doped in the past the guy brings in so much money for tv networks and vegas ect that plenty of people would be willing to brush it under the carpet to line their pockets with dollars And I would say that also applies to all the legitimate boxing stars out there past & present. There's millions & millions of dollars at stake for big fights...there ain't no way they're going to be the ones to stand in between of all that. Like Canelo/GGG, let's take them for example. Let's say one of them tested positive before the fight (just for argument's sake)...there's no f**king way that they'd suspend one of them and derail that fight. Boxing is a business, it ain't no different than any other business. There's no stopping certain money trains, especially over a failed tox screen.

The only guy in the sport that I know for sure that hasn't doped is Paulie Because the guy has the pure one punch power of a f**king gnat Everybody else, especially at the top level, is a suspect I mean we're talking modern day gladiators who go into a ring to either beat the sh*t out of the guy across from them....or get the sh*t beat out of them themselves It's a brutal, cutthroat sport and there's little doubt that a high percentage of them are going to be open to damn near anything to give them an edge, especially if they're confident in their ability to evade the system It's not always about punching power. Sometimes people use PEDs for faster recovery or longer work outs. I would never say never about ANYONE.

when your proffessional requires you to be the best physical specimen you can be you'd have to be an idiot not to do drugs. You can say similar things about literally any profession in the world. So basically you're saying you have to be an idiot not to cheat.

even as a fan of mayweathers skills it wouldnt surprise me if has doped in the past the guy brings in so much money for tv networks and vegas ect that plenty of people would be willing to brush it under the carpet to line their pockets with dollars id say its very reasonable to presume that a high percentage of top fighters are on something to gain an edge

The only guy in the sport that I know for sure that hasn't doped is Paulie Because the guy has the pure one punch power of a f**king gnat Everybody else, especially at the top level, is a suspect I mean we're talking modern day gladiators who go into a ring to either beat the sh*t out of the guy across from them....or get the sh*t beat out of them themselves It's a brutal, cutthroat sport and there's little doubt that a high percentage of them are going to be open to damn near anything to give them an edge, especially if they're confident in their ability to evade the system

Floyd, the man who want to clean up boxing. Hypocrisy? You tell me.. https://thisnursingjourney.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/img_1044.jpg https://cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/4037622/SBN_scan__1.0.jpeg https://cdn3.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/4037620/SBN_scan__2.0.jpeg http://i.imgur.com/rxPYIvm.jpg?1

It was well documented that Floyd Mayweather was making a stand to clean up boxing Floyd said: @ 00:20 - Nevada commission is one of the best commision in the world (that's why they absolved me by giving me that late TUE exemption lol) And My ultimate goal is not just USADA (WHO GAVE ME ILLEGAL IVS) and the sport of boxing, but For USADA AND PROFESSIONAL SPORTS PERIOD. @ 0:36 - Because there is too much cheating going on in sports! lololololololol Victor Conte talks about Floyd's low T/E ratio Probably the most suspicious part for me: A normal testosterone-to-epitestosterone ratio is slightly more than 1-to-1. Conte says that one recent study of the general population “placed the average T-E ratio for whites at 1.2-to-1 and for blacks at 1.3-to-1.” Under WADA standards, a testosterone-to-epitestosterone ratio of up to 4-to-1 is acceptable. That allows for any reasonable variation in an athlete’s natural testosterone level (which, for an elite athlete, might be particularly high). If the ratio is above 4-to-1, an athlete is presumed to be doping. Some athletes who use exogenous testosterone game the system by administering exogenous epitestosterone to drive their testosterone-to-epitestosterone ratio down beneath the permitted ceiling. This can be done by injection or by the application of epitestosterone as a cream. In the absence of a CIR test, this masks the use of synthetic testosterone. But there’s a catch. If an athlete tries to manipulate his or her testosterone-to-epitestosterone ratio, it is difficult to balance the outcome. If an athlete uses too much epitestosterone - and the precise amount is difficult to calibrate - the result can be an abnormally low T-E ratio. Mayweather’s testosterone-to-epitestosterone ratio for the April 3, 2013, sample was 0.80. His testosterone-to-epitestosterone ratio for the Aug. 18, 2011, sample was 0.69. “That’s a warning flag,” says Don Catlin. “If you’re serious about the testing, it tells you to do the CIR test.” The Nevada State Athletic Commission wasn’t as knowledgeable with regard to PED testing several years ago as it is now. Commission personnel might not have understood the possible implications of the 0.69 and 0.80 numbers. But USADA officials were knowledgeable. http://i.imgur.com/rxPYIvm.jpg?1 https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Y-08OVrKBOc/hqdefault.jpg