Is Conor underrated in this matchup?

I think conor will do better than expect due to the low expectations.

He isn't a boxer and he's fighting the best pure boxer on the planet. are you kidding me?

Conner has 0 pro fights.

Because he didn't impose his size. And he wasn't really that much bigger, Conor is significantly bigger than Canelo. I'd disagree

-Saul Alvarez was noticeably bigger than Floyd, and that had no bearing on the fight outcome. Because he didn't impose his size. And he wasn't really that much bigger, Conor is significantly bigger than Canelo.

I just don't see this being competitive. I think McGregor fares worst than Berto. Surely he does worse than Berto. Berto was still a world champion boxer at one point. It's not like Berto is an actual bum or a novice, he was still good enough to be beating fringe fighters like Josesito Lopez. Not that i'm saying beating Lopez means anything in boxing as such but you know what i mean. It's still light years ahead of what McGregor could probably do in boxing. I think Berto would fold McGregor in a round or two in a boxing ring, given the fact Berto can crack and is a decent level boxer. The only reason McGregor might not get stopped quickly in this one is because of Floyd's lack of KO power. Any good boxer will land on McGregor at will in a boxing ring, so i doubt he lasts a round or two with a boxer with decent power.

Underrated? apparently the bookies give him a better shot to win than they did Cotto. You can't really go by the bookies though i guess, betting money dictates the odds too.

No. Because what good is power if you aren't use to controlling range and using feints, counters and other boxing skills to set up your power shots? Is he going to set traps and bait Floyd into committing and land a power shot? I don't see that happening. Floyd's struggled the most with fighters who can smother and throw shots in the pocket. He can't attack relentlessly because he's not an inside fighter that can generate power up close. In the UFC, you can't box inside because of the threat of take downs. He's used to boxing at a range where Floyd is virtually unbeatable. This is not something he will learn overnight. Awkwardness can be an advantage but Floyd has seen awkward fighters before (i.e. Maidana) and was able to adjust. I just don't see this being competitive. I think McGregor fares worst than Berto.

No. Let me present my case. Exhibit 1: Rest my case. Sparring videos may not mean much. I mean, he could decide to come out like Peter McNeely against Tyson...knowing Floyd doesn't have Tyson's power. He loses either way, so maybe he'll decide to at least make it exciting for a few minutes....after which he'd probably gas out and Mayweather would toy with him as he pleases.

Well yea, some people seem to legit think conor can't win, which is just not realistic, any other top combatant has a chance and conor happens to have many advantages in this fight. With that said I think floyd wins, even if conor gives him a fight, I think floyd can just as well maul and outbrawl him, mma guys, conor esspecially has a nonexistent inside game. Floyd can't underestimate him that's for sure, and with floyds personality it is unlikely he will. It's not a fight floyd can halfass like some think, for him to make it look easy, he's going to have to put in 100%.

The South African guy who fought Spence confirmed that he has power, but wasn't really effusive about it. To be fair, that guy has a great chin and they were wearing pillows. I agree we can't take too much for granted about how his power translates into professional boxing, but I expect him to at least have a respectable punch. That's good to know. For me though, that doesn't change much. I don't believe Connor has the boxing ability to land on Floyd enough times, or clean enough, to be competitive in the fight. And by competitive I mean him at least creating the illusion that he could beat Floyd, even if he never gets ahead on the scorecards.

Short answer from me is no. I've considered all your points, and still believe Connor doesn't stand much of a chance outside of a puncherd chance. And even that I question. I haven't heard anything in regard to his power from sparring partners, but judging by how he develops his power in MMA I don't think he'll be nearly as effective in the boxing ring. The South African guy who fought Spence confirmed that he has power, but wasn't really effusive about it. To be fair, that guy has a great chin and they were wearing pillows. I agree we can't take too much for granted about how his power translates into professional boxing, but I expect him to at least have a respectable punch.

He's going to be difficult at first because he is rangy and he DOES have some skill. He can labf thst left hand with pretty good timing and precision. When I say at first though I mean maybe the first 3 rounds at best. And Floyd will still probably win those rounds, I just think we might see him take at least one big punch and Conor might get off a partially blocked flurry that makes the crowd go crazy. I don't buy the power thing that much in boxing with 10 ounce gloves and a moving target. Conor has landed flush before and not hurt the guy. They make it seem like he has Julian Jackson type power. Sure there is a small chance he rocks Floyd since Floyd has almost always been the longer guy and HE IS 40. But seriously after the first few rounds it should be target practice. ESPECIALLY with the check hook. If Conor starts getting aggressive there is no way Floyd won't land that at will. Conor leans in with his left and he is not as quick as Pacquiao to move out of the way. By the middle rounds when Conor is tires Floyd will start to time that right hand and it's going to be embarrassing. I'm expecting Conor's corner to stop the fight in the 9th or 10th. I think that is a pretty good breakdown. I see it somewhat similar, although I might give Conor a little more credit. I think Conor will look a lot better than expected early, but skills and conditioning will show more as the fight wears on. I also think he is likely to be embarrassed late in the fight.

Any Floyd haters who are hoping for this would be basically rooting for the death of the sport of boxing. Boxing's credibility is already in the sewers...but if some novice 0-0 barely amateur level "boxer" comes in and gives Floyd hell, or God forbid beats him, I honestly don't see any conceivable way the sport survives such a thing. Boxing would survive if Connor beat Floyd, but the reputation of the sport would be severly damaged, especially in the USA, no doubt about that. If you're a boxing fan, no matter how much you hate Floyd, you should be rooting for him in this fight.

Short answer from me is no. I've considered all your points, and still believe Connor doesn't stand much of a chance outside of a puncherd chance. And even that I question. I haven't heard anything in regard to his power from sparring partners, but judging by how he develops his power in MMA I don't think he'll be nearly as effective in the boxing ring.

im white....I voted for trump.....and I'm rooting for Floyd so don't label me lol Like any generalisation its never strictly true I suppose. But I think you know what I'm getting at. :boxing:

yeah you aren't a "real" boxing fan unless you support every single thing in boxing. even a guy who rigs fights in his favor so he cant lose from gloves to refs protecting him. this is the "support the troops" of the early 2000's. you must not like america if you dont support every single thing it does even if it makes no sense and is ret-arded. I see where you getting at dag and yes you make some strong points But would you agree that if this novice who hasn't boxed once in his life at the professional level, if he goes in and gives Floyd hell (let's not even get into him actually against all odds winning), would that not be the biggest blow to the sport's reputation...arguably in its history?

I'm going to play devil's advocate. The skill sets will be far apart and we have to question his ability to cope with elite level boxing as well as his stamina and pacing for a 12 round fight. That may well be enough to render the fight a circus act that plays out as expected by cynics in all honesty. I would like to suggest a way in which this may not be true. Here is what I am looking at that may make the fight more interesting than expected. Face to face, Conor is noticeably bigger. His shoulders are wider, his head is bigger, his arms are longer, his fists are bigger. He is a bigger man. Regardless of skill, this benefits his ability to absorb and dish out punishment, and provides him with the tactical advantages of strength and being able to engage at a longer range. Reach is absolutely one of the most underrated elements in boxing, especially regarding counter punchers and power punchers. He has knockout power. Naturally, punching with 4oz MMA gloves is different from what he'll be wearing against Floyd, but I think most people can agree that he is expected to be carrying KO power as a boxer based on his MMA results as well as testimony from sparring partners. Floyd is 40. Now obviously he has taken great care of himself and maintains unquestionable discipline and craft. We have not seen a marked decrease in his physical capacities, although some have argued that his movement/legs are not what they used to be. Given Conor's power (and perhaps ability to deliver it thanks to his reach and speed), a momentary lapse or slow reaction could prove dangerous. Furthermore, while Floyd beat Pac only 2 years ago, Pac himself was arguably past his prime and a much smaller man (not to mention the fact that he fought scared and it was a very unconvincing performance). Outside of that victory, he has not beaten an elite fighter since Alvarez 4 years prior. A great victory, but the difference between 36 and 40 is a question that may need to be answered. Conor's confidence, mental strength, and charisma. He is going into the fight knowing he can kill Floyd, and believing in his ability with supreme confidence. Obviously, that cannot overcome a massive skill deficit on its own, but accompanied with his physical advantages and knockout power, it will certainly make him dangerous early. It will be up to Floyd to break that confidence (which he is adept at). Nevertheless, I think Conor's mental strength and confidence can prove to be a factor. Floyd is able to dominate almost all of his opponents mentally, but I don't see it with Conor. He will be unorthodox. Floyd excels at beating fighters who fight his game. He knows what to expect and can take advantage particularly of traditional fighters. He knows the movements and the programming of disciplined boxers like JMM and Canelo, and he uses that predictability against them. Conor is a southpaw who has a proficient striking style developed somewhat outside of Floyd's field. He will be looking for counters from different angles (aided by his size advantage and younger reflexes), not futilely attempting to set up tired, predictable combos against a faster opponent. In some ways, his inexperience and unorthodox craft may throw off a finely tuned boxing master like Floyd. Now I think the safe bet is that Conor's skill set will be made to look somewhat amateurish, and I have big questions about his conditioning and preparedness to go 12. However, he will be going into the ring with some advantages. A marked physical size advantage, absolute confidence, knockout power, and an unorthodox style. I think if he maintains a focused, counter-punching style, he will be able to avoid falling into traps that exploit the difference in skill and more aptly take advantage of the assets he will bring to the fight. I think with a focused, responsible counter-punching approach, he can make a strong contest and outpace most people's expectations. Should he chase Floyd, sell out his reach and size, lose focus, and get desperate (as many Floyd opponents do), then he will ultimately be picked apart and embarrassed by Floyd's superior craft. -Saul Alvarez was noticeably bigger than Floyd, and that had no bearing on the fight outcome. -Marcos Maidana came at Floyd with arguably the most awkward approach ever, and even then, Floyd had things understood by about Rd 5/6. -We still have no idea how much his MMA skills translate to boxing, especially against someone as slick as Floyd. If there'd been footage of him sparring Sergio Mora, or if he had David Joyce or Michael O'Reilly in camp, we'd see what works or doesn't work.

The size difference is marginal. People need to quit harping on that. Same with the two inch reach advantage - Who cares. It's not a big enough of a difference to matter. Anything can happen in a fight though, and Conor has that crazy sensation about him that makes you think he can overcome any opponent put in front of him, so of course he has a chance. But it's a very slim one.

As he should....