Trying to figure this one out. Hell they already have wrestling, which is combat and from what I can tell, causes the combatants some pain. We all know the dangers of football and I've seen concussions and injuries happen all the time, myself included.
Cuz I feel like most of the backlash for boxing in schools is fear of injuries to kids. Just treat it like they treat wrestling.
I think when I was in high school I proposed this to a gym teacher, and he said it wouldn't happen because everyone would be too much of a pvssy. Lol.
Anyways, let's get boxing into our public schools! If not an official sport, at least make it part of the curriculum or an after school program.
Dude, in today's soft society it's a miracle that football is even still allowed in school sports. No way Boxing becomes one. Though I could see some Democrat politician campaigning on the idea of how it helps lift "P.O.C." out of poverty and that inner city public schools should receive funding so that kids could compete. Surprised one of those hustlers haven't thought of that yet.
FOOTBALL iS A TEAM SPORT AND BLAME CAN BE PLACED..BOXING IS ONE ON ONE AND MORE PERSONAL AS YOU ARE trying TO HURT THE OTHER GUY WITHOUT OTHERS....READ MY POST AGAIN. Ive lived in an era where teachers actually LET kids duke it out at a point in time...try that now?What do you think would REALLy happen? Come on now. lol...smh.
Adding this ..... a boxing match at my school also created a HUGE race war after the match between two different ppl....lol......really its not a good idea for multiple reasons .
I would argue that with the right coaching, that can be avoided. I think those type of things trickle down from the teaching and the athletic directors. Just because that happened once at your school doesn't necessarily mean it'll happen at others. If we had boxing at schools way back when, I don't see why we can't have them again. Maybe once the sport becomes more popular, which it certainly seems like it might be, schools might start seeing it as a viable sport.
Wrestling is not a combat sport.
Wrestling is for sure a combat sport. So much so that I avoided it in high school while being heckled by my football teammates to join. I already did football and track. You can't do a sport every season, I needed a break. Especially since football is really a 2 season sport, summer and fall.
I've seen what those wrestling guys go through. It's no joke. You're laying your hands on your opponent and imposing your will on him. That's combat.
I've always wondered if any NCAA college boxers from back then won a world title in the pro ranks.
If NCAA boxing was allowed to continue it would be huge, it was a legit sport and it was still young if it went on into the 70s and 80s Boxing would be alive and well and USA would practically dominate in the Olympics
its sad how they banned it over one death. people have died in other sports like baseball, football yet they never banned it. Baseball some people died getting hit in the head with a fast ball even with the helmet on.
And I believe his death was due to weight cutting, he had to make the weight the same day and his brain didnt hydrate with fluids causing it to swell up.
Good thread. Some good points. I agree with those that say there's too much liability. There are other factors as well. The sport is misunderstood, by and large. Image is everything. And, let's face it, getting hit in the head over and over isn't generally a good thing. Lol
Football has a lot of injuries and concussions too, but it's allowed.
I can give you the real answer: $$$
The money football brings to schools make it so that injuries are overlooked. In reality, amateur boxing can be made so safe for schools, that it is very realistic to say boxing would actually be more safe than football.
Injuries are not over looked in football in high school no one would let you play with any type of injury or cuncussion, and same with college. Only in the pros guys will go out there for a paycheck it's on a game to game basis. If goodell modified contracts with pay for missed games none of that would happen.
I can actually answer this ( as usual) LAWSUITS....
Back in my day teachers were actually allowed to let students settle things with fists and in orderly fashion..i remeber my own older brother knocking out some guy outweighing him by around 90/100 pounds this was late 80's....
you CANT do this anymore ...boxing is a physical sport and injuries happen that inclkude only TWO guys going at it so finger is easy to point ...its NOT a team sport and certainly one needs to go toa real gym if serious not a school.
Football has a lot of injuries and concussions too, but it's allowed.
I can give you the real answer: $$$
The money football brings to schools make it so that injuries are overlooked. In reality, amateur boxing can be made so safe for schools, that it is very realistic to say boxing would actually be more safe than football.
Wrestling is not a combat sport.
Not The Rock vs Stone Cold type wrestling, but Olympic/grappling wrestling is. The wrestling in high schools is a combat sport. You can use wrestling skills in a real fight, if you're a good grappler, it goes a long way for when you need to subdue someone via takedowns, holds, and throws. Wrestling is literally 1 on 1 combat.
Trying to figure this one out. Hell they already have wrestling, which is combat and from what I can tell, causes the combatants some pain. We all know the dangers of football and I've seen concussions and injuries happen all the time, myself included.
Cuz I feel like most of the backlash for boxing in schools is fear of injuries to kids. Just treat it like they treat wrestling.
I think when I was in high school I proposed this to a gym teacher, and he said it wouldn't happen because everyone would be too much of a pvssy. Lol.
Anyways, let's get boxing into our public schools! If not an official sport, at least make it part of the curriculum or an after school program.
Wrestling is not a combat sport.
Dont need kids going brain dead while their trying to learn.
It doesn't even need to necessarily be sport, just something to spark interest. Like part of the curriculum, learning basics type of stuff. The stance, the training. I would like it to be a sport though. No more dangerous than football really. I don't have the data to back that up, but I took quite a few hard hits in high school football.
It is here in some schools in the UK. The school I went to always had the option of either playing football, rugby or doing boxing for an hour every 2nd day.
All three had scouts coming out from professional football clubs, rugby clubs and boxing academies which try and recruit members for the GB Olympic teams.
It really depends on which school you go to though. Not all schools have these links to professional clubs and academies, the equipment needed or the appropriate fields or boxing rings along with professionals qualified to teach the sport.
We used to use boxing all the time to settle playground disputes so it's probably a great idea to implement it in all schools. We even had our boxing trainer referee some of these fights which he knew full well why it was even happening in the first place and he was a good sport about it making sure you shake hands and dead the situation once the final bell rings at the end of the 3 rounds we used to box for.
Kids these days need safe spaces to be protected from words that might be offensive, but yeah, let them get punched in the face.
You're right and that's exactly the problem. Parents have coddled their kids so much the boys are turning into girls. Wussification of today's youth. If words hurt their feelings imagine what getting punched in the face will do. Still think it would be a good thing to see in the curriculum.
In college I did something similar. It wasn't a persuasion paper or anything. More of a descriptive paper. Describe an experience in depth using a lot of detail. I pretty much described what it's like being at a fight. The atmosphere and excitement, the anticipation of the event. That kind of stuff. General stuff. Got a good grade.
A few classmates approached me after class and told me my paper got them interested in boxing. Including one girl, who had made a paper about bullying. So I did my job lol kind of. I just really wanted to put boxing out there a little bit. Oh I also made an argument for boxing as a self defense sport, being good against bullying. I argued that the whole thing about "telling an adult" will not always be available, there will be a time where you can't tell anyone because you're cornered, and boxing helps to defend yourself in situations like these. I also linked boxing to just all around life, you get dropped in boxing you have to get up and continue going some how, just like in life. Boxing helped give me that mentality.
Boxing used to be in highschools and was a Collegiate sport for years until someone died in competition and the USA government deemed it too violent for college sports
you can find info it, I think this was the 1960s when it was banned.
At the 1960 NCAA Championships Charlie Mohr, a boxer on the University of Wisconsin–Madison team, collapsed with a brain hemorrhage and died one week later
Before Boxing was banned from the NCAA college sports in 1960, Wisconsin was the Goat college with 8 team championship titles.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCAA_Boxing_Championship
I think it would be a great idea. It should be mandatory gym requirement. Kids today need the discipline and it should prevent them from getting too soft.
I presented a paper about this about 6 years ago in college. It was about amateur boxing being implemented in high school and college. I thought since I love boxing I will just write about it and thought how I would've loved to join a boxing team in HS or college. Brought up injury stats for Football and amateur boxing, football had more injuries and concussions. I also said why it's good, brought up things like it teaches discipline, it's even used in US military, it changes troubled people's lives, etc. I talked about the price of joining a boxing gym in NYC, the membership, inner city kids can't afford that. Said how, many of the poor-street-kids-turnt boxers just happened to get picked up by someone who wanted to support them but it's not all fine and dandy for every kid like that. It was a great paper, used power point slides and stuff.
In college I did something similar. It wasn't a persuasion paper or anything. More of a descriptive paper. Describe an experience in depth using a lot of detail. I pretty much described what it's like being at a fight. The atmosphere and excitement, the anticipation of the event. That kind of stuff. General stuff. Got a good grade.