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ESPN reporting that sources are saying August 26th is being set aside for Mayweather-McGregor
It just seems too soon of a date to me for this fight. But we will soon find out.
that's koo man. i ain't afraid to disagree. i know we've had our battles. ;)
but i will say, i do think you're underestimating the amount of people who barely have two nickels to rub together that are dumb enough to spend money on pay-per-view. whether it's ufc or boxing, when there is a monster PPV, it's because casual people who would only dream of buying one PPV every couple of years decide the fight is so important they just have to do it. but they're not going to do it again any time soon.
oh, i'm with ya that canelo-ggg may still do 1.25. but if mayweather-mcgregor falls apart and never happens, i think canelo-ggg would do closer to 1.5.
also, don't underestimate the effect of mayweather-mcgregor sucking up so much of the mainstream attention. canelo-ggg would be in the shadow of that fight and wouldn't get the same level of media devotion it would get if it was the only game in town.
and let me go on the record btw and say i think 4 million for mayweather-mcgregor is crazy. i'll be shocked if it hits 4 million, even though so many experts are convinced.
people dreamed of mayweather-pacquiao for years. nobody was dreaming of mayweather-mcgregor years ago. may-pac was a complete anomaly. nothing is ever breaking 4 million again IMO.
I happen to agree with you on that. IF it happens, my prediction would be somewhere in the 3.00 to 3.25 million buys. I actually think more like 2.75, but of course they will inflate the numbers a bit lol
Their PPV numbers are WAY WAY down. They can still do big numbers for the major major shows, but the run of the mill monthly PPVs are suffering due to overexposure.
I don't know a single person in the PPV industry that would agree with this. Nor would leading boxing & UFC experts. Kevin Iole just wrote day:
"Oscar De La Hoya is promoting that bout, and it would no doubt take a major hit in pay-per-view sales if Mayweather-McGregor, which could sell 4 million, comes a few weeks before."
HBO has tried desperately to avoid two PPVs in three weeks over the years, but off the top of my head, I know Hopkins-Pavlik and Calzaghe-Jones were 3 weeks apart and sales for both were a DISASTER.
The shows did *half* of what HBO was expecting and simply reinforced their believe that 3 weeks apart is death, even if in different months.
well then we just disagree. At least half the buyers for Floyd-Conner will be MMA people who wouldnt buy Canelo-GGG regardless, so I happen to think the risk to the Canelo-GGG promotion is minimal, if any. I think Canelo-GGG does at least 1.25 million buys. IF Floyd-Conner happens on Aug 26, and IF Canelo-GGG does under 1.25 million buys, then you get to say you were right. Until then, its just opinion.......
Real fans will buy the real fight. Smart fans will stream the exhibition match. But there are lots of dumb Floyd fans ( just check this forum) and there are certainly tons of dumb UFC fans.
May-Mcg will outsell Canelo-GGG but the first won't impact the seconds PPV sales.
With all due respect, nobody with experience in the PPV industry would take this position. I assume you would admit the above statements are your personal hunches and not based on any actual knowledge of the internal data of the PPV industry?
While it is true that an event in the same billing cycle is even more damaging, you are grossly underestimating the impact of a major event a few weeks before, even if it's in a different month. There's a reason Haymon & UFC are rushing to get this event in front of canelo-ggg . . .
UFC runs pretty much every month, and it doesnt seem to hurt them. The risk of Mayweather date being that close is NOT because of the money, the risk is if Mayweather-Macgregor stinks out the joint, people might not want to spend money on another combat event. We saw similar trends in the wake of May-Pac.
I cant think of a single "high-profile" PPV that EVER got really hurt by another PPV happening a month earlier. If you know of one, please share......
but they JUST wasted their money . . . and may not have another $75 to spend 3 weeks later . . .
I couldnt disagree with you more on this. PPV sales are not lost because people dont have the money. Nobody who is down to their last 70 bucks is going to order a PPV anyways. Its ALWAYS disposable income. And these events are in different months, and they dont actually have to pay for it until their next bill comes. MAYBE if they were only a week apart there might be a small number of people who couldnt afford both, but I doubt that amount is even significant enough to be measured.
IMO PPV sales are lost because either fans are unfamiliar with the participant(s), or they do not perceive it as a good matchup. Neither of those is the case with Canelo-GGG.
It is quite short notice but maybe UFC want it out of the way ASAP and stipulated it has to be sooner rather than later. What have they got to gain from stretching it out? By August, everyone is gonna know the fights happening and they'll buy it or won't. McGregor will lose, everyone will earn their money, Floyd will go back into retirement even richer and the UFC will get McGregor back to fight on their events.
It's a money grab, no point in stretching it out like it counts for anything.
Edit: just read it might not happen then. It should be done sooner rather than later anyway.
As of today the 13th they took back that date. Going to be scheduled for another date if this garbage fight happens
Yeah I just saw this too, they withdrew the reservation for that date
https://mobile.twitter.com/danrafaelespn/status/874445042110406657
ESPN reporting that sources are saying August 26th is being set aside for Mayweather-McGregor
It just seems too soon of a date to me for this fight. But we will soon find out.
Too soon? Floyd is strategic, he first said the pacquiao vs floyd fight would need a few months to doa proper presser tour, but years later he made the fight with only a three minth period and no press tour, floyd does things for a reason, the man is like the ultimate movie bad guy he has spies on you and makes sure its the right time to fight you with the proper advantages
Floyd will not allow mcgregor to study anymore boxing, why let it go longer and give conor more time to study?
I still dont think it happens, i think dana white is just pretending and will say i tried and the fight couldnt be made due to egos
Free publicity
The fight should be in November, August is too early! To produce a decent WORLD WIDE press tour, and then for the fighters to have proper training camps! (To be honest....I am more interested in Canelo vs Golovkin, not really bothered if Mayweather vs Mcgregor happens!)...
I want dueling Buffer Brothers...
I want Joe Rogan on the call along with SHO
I want Dana White to be "All in the Video's"
I want Jack & Davis on the undercard
I want to watch this but will prob be at the Cotto fight instead (live)
Maybe GBP should move the Cotto-Kamegai date to August 12th, 19th or September 2nd.
I figured this fight would happen around November or so and not too close in date to other PPV's like Canelo-Golovkin.
But if it happens in August, it happens in August.
Cool, more light and news on this to come in the next few days and weeks.
I dont think it would hurt the Canelo-GGG buys at all, and might even help them.
After Floyd slaps Conner around for 12 rounds and stinks out the place, GBP can market Canelo-GGG as a REAL fight, and not an exhibition match like they just wasted their money on.......
Those of us with accounts on this site that are actual fans (and not just here to hate) realize that Canelo's best chance to win is to box and move and try and neutralize GGG's power by scoring with the jab and preventing return shots in key spots.
With Canelo/Chavez, many (not necessarily you) allowed themselves to be fooled into believing the fight would be a war simply because the two combatants were of Mexican heritage rather than look at how each had fought throughout their career.
I think the same thing applies with Canelo/GGG. Looking at how both fight, this looks more like a controlled chess match not a "mexican style" all action, Vazquez/Marquez style fight that HBO and ODH are marketing
I want dueling Buffer Brothers...
I want Joe Rogan on the call along with SHO
I want Dana White to be "All in the Video's"
I want Jack & Davis on the undercard
I want to watch this but will prob be at the Cotto fight instead (live)
I dont think it would hurt the Canelo-GGG buys at all, and might even help them.
After Floyd slaps Conner around for 12 rounds and stinks out the place, GBP can market Canelo-GGG as a REAL fight, and not an exhibition match like they just wasted their money on.......
Not too soon plenty of time to promote a ppv. They had no choice Steve Kim reported weeks ago that part of Golden Boy deal for t-mobile on Sept 16 was assurance that MGM would not let Floyd interfere with their fight. So Floyd had to take a aug date 3 weeks before the canelo fight or wait till Oct. Golden Boy blocked him from sept those were the only dates MGM would give him.
Both PPVs will succeed and make money anyway.
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