Glaser: Canelo vs Chavez did 860k PPV buys

Is there a UFC version of glaser who calls the UFC liars for the PPV numbers that the UFC puts out to the media?

Idk about gospel. I don't take anything anyone says as gospel per se. But isn't the promoters lying about PPV numbers thing true? Or largely true. I definitely believe promoters indulge numbers or they do high guessimates on incomplete numbers to look best for them. I mean some of it even seems forgivable cuz from my understanding it takes awhile to compile numbers, for whatever reason, so I think some of it is counting x & adding y% of a expected future yet uncounted figure to arrive at a number they say to reporters. Honestly its not that serious to me. I've only recently started paying attention to guys like Glaser & other PPV "truthers" so I don't recall what he or others said about Floyd, Manny or even Oscar if he goes that far back. I've always felt it was a problem that no one really releases gate-like numbers on PPV that are very official (anymore cuz iirc some cats used to) & it was a figure prone to fudging for the benefit of the fighter &/or promoter so I took the numbers with a grain of salt. That said what else is there to judge PPV stars via then all of their inflated figures if one is to compare them? Again long as you call them all liars. Your post called golden boy liars and that canelo does not deserve to be mentioned in same as other big ppvs when glaser has literally called all those other big ppv numbers liars. Says Pacquiao lied, and made his name by saying most of the fights Floyd and Mayweather promotions stated cracked 1m really only sold 600-700K. Trolled floyd for years. So according glaser canelo sold more then most of floyds fights in his hayday. Floyd last fight which ellerbe said did almost 600k glaser said it really only did 389K. And loeffler said GGG did 150K but glaser said it only did 97K. I think glaser is making shyt up I also think these promoters embellish. The real numbers are probably somewhere in the middle. Glaser numbers seem too low because he just trolling and too many insiders say he is not plugged into the industry. I think he legit just waits till somebody releases numbers and then just takes 30% off and says my sources tell me these the real numbers. Lmao

Nearly 900k, that's a hell of a lot more than I expected for such a garbage fight.

Good numbers for Canelo (if true)

floyd knew this. thats why he always fought on mexican holidays and often cherry picked mexicans or had guys like canelo on his undercards. Yep. If not for Oscar, he'd still be the same guy that couldn't even sell out his own hometown arena. He doesn't bring any box office type of talent and truly amazing performances like the past greats, and ATGs. Hell, even current fighters like Pacquiao, Canelo, and Spence. And he lost to Manny. It's the biggest elephant in the room. It's like we're being punk'd as boxing fans, with them giving Floyd that win.

Damn good numbers for such a mismatch. Mexicans support the **** out of their fighters. floyd knew this. thats why he always fought on mexican holidays and often cherry picked mexicans or had guys like canelo on his undercards.

Damn good numbers for such a mismatch. Mexicans support the **** out of their fighters.

conor should get those numbers because floyd isnt even as big of a draw as conor but hes pretendign like always. none of floyds fights did close to conor unless he fought another superstar which conor has never done

LOL at BPP being like f#ck that guy. Thats hilarious to me for some reason. But yea I wouldn't be shocked if the numbers are sub-1M. GBP has already been caught in a lie with the Canelo vs Khan(?) PPV numbers iirc. GBP said 600k, court documents said 450k. If he's bumping up numbers by 150 as a rule that matches this fight pretty well between Glaser's "real" number & GBP's number. And just in general I tend to believe Mexican fans aren't THAT loyal to support this bs ass fight so I like Glaser's number more then I like GBP's numbers that put them in a select group in PPV fights that it doesn't really seem like Canelo has reached to me. Problem is if you believe glaser then you have to take everything he says as gospel as he flat out says all these promoters lie about the ppv. He made his name because GGG and Pacquiao fans quoted him for years as he stated that Floyd lied about his numbers. According to glaser none of floyds fights that he said cracked 1m or slightly under were lies. He said fights like guerrero, maidana 1 and 2 etc really did 600-700K. Berto did 389K. According to glaser excluding the floyd/Pacquiao fight Canelo just out did both Pacquiao and floyd fights after their showdown and outdid their recent fights before they finally fought. You have to go back to floyd vs canelo to find a fight that sold more. That puts canelo in pretty rare company. If you go by what the major outlets reported it's amazing. If you go by the grading curve which is glaser's numbers they are still amazing if you stay consistent. But you can't pick and choose when you want to believe glaser is telling the truth. If canelo didn't Crack 1m then most of the fights Floyd said he did 1m didn't either. GGG fanboys if these are the real numbers then GGG really sold only 97K. LMAO.

LOL at BPP being like f#ck that guy. Thats hilarious to me for some reason. But yea I wouldn't be shocked if the numbers are sub-1M. GBP has already been caught in a lie with the Canelo vs Khan(?) PPV numbers iirc. GBP said 600k, court documents said 450k. If he's bumping up numbers by 150 as a rule that matches this fight pretty well between Glaser's "real" number & GBP's number. And just in general I tend to believe Mexican fans aren't THAT loyal to support this bs ass fight so I like Glaser's number more then I like GBP's numbers that put them in a select group in PPV fights that it doesn't really seem like Canelo has reached to me. If 860k mexicans bought this fight i find it hard to believe mexicans arent loyal... floyd-berto and pac-vargas combined did less than canelo-chavez if you go by glaser numbers, a cw fight with no title on the line and considered a mismatch by most...

I have no idea why anyone would source Glaser for anything. A. Has zero legit connections. B. Has been accused numerous times, including last week, of ripping off fighters and promoters. C. He had well known problems with owing hundreds of thousands to the IRS because he never filed taxes for the last 12 years, still unpaid. How would you know point A? How does point B and C disprove he's knowledgeable? No need to besmirch a great dying man.

I mean, how the f*ck would Glaser even now the actual numbers? I don't think he has any ties to the current HBO or GBP. Isn't he just some old Don King employee or something? Gets them straight from the source. http://imgur.com/yNaz4oQ.jpg

Still great numbers post maypac those are great numbers period..not many fights sell that much

That's a good number.

those are great numbers

So Mexicans will buy anything old trash

LOL I understand that talking up Glaser is funny but we have to remember that he has no idea about any of this. When he was in boxing, which was a long long time ago, he was a matchmaker. He has zero connections with cable/satellite executives, hbo or showtime. Even the most connected people have a hard time getting accurate ppv numbers.

So it was over 1m ,nice PPV numbers

I mean, how the f*ck would Glaser even now the actual numbers? I don't think he has any ties to the current HBO or GBP. Isn't he just some old Don King employee or something? I was coming here to say that BPP usually comes around disputing sources such as Glaser and the very next page I see this below: I have no idea why anyone would source Glaser for anything. A. Has zero legit connections. B. Has been accused numerous times, including last week, of ripping off fighters and promoters. C. He had well known problems with owing hundreds of thousands to the IRS because he never filed taxes for the last 12 years, still unpaid. :lol1: Glaser has been brought up numerous times on this site and this is the first time I see BPP saying anything about him. Also, I can't dispute #1 cause obviously Idk but IMO #2 and #3 have like nothing to do with whether he knows the real numbers or not.

I have no idea why anyone would source Glaser for anything. A. Has zero legit connections. B. Has been accused numerous times, including last week, of ripping off fighters and promoters. C. He had well known problems with owing hundreds of thousands to the IRS because he never filed taxes for the last 12 years, still unpaid.