Spence's inside fighting vs Brook was better then

It was. Why do some say Ward is even a good inside fighter? Grabbing, holding, and pushing is inside work?

The closer Kov vs Ward 2 gets the more anti-Ward threads we see. Seems people are getting a tad nervous

clearly sergey is initiating these clinches

clinching is determined by who initiates it. it's not who participates in it. if someone is intent on holding and hitting as ward is then you have to clamp down his arms. however ward is the one shooting doubles into the clinches. u can see sergio grabbing ward's head to counter-clinch. but why are his arms grabbing sergio's legs in the first place? Ward lowed his head to shoot into Sergei's mid-section to avoid getting hit and straight into the clinch so he can grab and hit. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/boxing/2016/11/20/JS114160424-clinch-AP-small_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqqVzuuqpFlyLIwiB6NTmJwbPDxQbNY14cEL39VO5FRUc.jpg sergio is not known for the clinch. ward is and that's what he does every fight.

he actually throws punches on the inside, unlike ward. he actually does damage and stops world class opponents too. imagine that.

There are similarities, but what's so impressive about brawling your way inside to force a clinch? Then blame your opponent for clinching? What are you supposed to do if you are the opponent? What is missed here is the inability to stand and trade without brawling, ie, box, throw punches, counter, move out, move in...

any inside fighting Ward has ever done in his career. Don't even know why Ward get's credited for being a good inside fighter, all he does is headbutt, clinch and rabbit punch. Spence on the other hand beat the crap out of that clinching mulatto and took his best defensive move away from him by punishing him. Spence inside fighting is the answer to Ward's clinching, shame no one has it in Ward's division. ... Some epiphany you had here!!! :) ... Don't you ever compare Spence to that bloke!... (SOB, or whatever his name is)...

Ward follows the blueprint of Mayweather and before that Hopkins. Nobody liked to watch Hopkins fight for that reason then near the end of his career he successfully brainwashed everyone into believing that is an actual set of skills to throw a right straight and hug to smother activity from your opponent. Mayweather followed it up with more brainwashing. by the time it got to Ward, we have the most skilled fighter of all time right? people are catching up now and realized this is just straight up fouling and buffoonery. this is not a skill of boxing. it's a skill of roman greco. it can only be fought on home soil too so the ref will let you break the rules over and over again.

He was hurt, that is the one time you're actually legally allowed to clinch dumb dumb. Kovalev did the same thing to Ward for the majority of the fight that Mayweather did to Pacquiao, for the exact same reasons, to avoid trading on the inside. But Mayweather is evil for doing it and it's okay to pretend Kovalev didn't do it (at a MUCH higher rate than Mayweather did). The amount of clinching Mayweather did vs Pacquiao is so overstated. I counted about 20 clinches at most. That's less than 1 per round. He did much more vs Maidana

He was hurt, that is the one time you're actually legally allowed to clinch dumb dumb. Kovalev did the same thing to Ward for the majority of the fight that Mayweather did to Pacquiao, for the exact same reasons, to avoid trading on the inside. But Mayweather is evil for doing it and it's okay to pretend Kovalev didn't do it (at a MUCH higher rate than Mayweather did). Whilst I disagree with your assessment of Kovalev clinching Ward the entire fight, even if he did, it's not a long term habit. Ward and Floyd have made a career out of clinching, if only there was a Spence up there to **** Ward's down syndrome face up and punish him for clinching.

Ah, so thats why Ward dived on and grabbed Kovalev's legs in the second and third round, because he was trying to defend himself from his clinch......I get it now. He was hurt, that is the one time you're actually legally allowed to clinch dumb dumb. Kovalev did the same thing to Ward for the majority of the fight that Mayweather did to Pacquiao, for the exact same reasons, to avoid trading on the inside. But Mayweather is evil for doing it and it's okay to pretend Kovalev didn't do it (at a MUCH higher rate than Mayweather did).

spence is in a category of his own with that inside fighting mess. very very physical fighter.

i don't think thats right....spence is a arguable number 1 in the entire sport for inside fighting. better then golovkin. kovalov, ward, them all. shawn porter is pretty good at it but unlike spence he smothers his own work way too much.

any inside fighting Ward has ever done in his career. Don't even know why Ward get's credited for being a good inside fighter, all he does is headbutt, clinch and rabbit punch. Spence on the other hand beat the crap out of that clinching mulatto and took his best defensive move away from him by punishing him. Spence inside fighting is the answer to Ward's clinching, shame no one has it in Ward's division. You mean it's the answer to Kovalev's clinching? Anyone who watched the fight objectively can clearly see who was the one initiating the clinches to avoid an inside fight. That's why Kovalev started getting beat up on the inside in the second half of the fight when he was too tired to clinch properly anymore.