Just rewatched Brook vs Spence. My thoughts

So, just took the horrible time to re-watch the fight from yesterday night. I must admit that Spence did a lot better than I thought. When I watched it yesterday on a dodgy stream that paused every few moments, I felt Brook was comfortably in control up until the 7th round. However, looking at it back, I actually only felt rounds 5,6 and 7 were good for him. He fell into his shots a lot and didn't connect with many great punches in the early rounds, whereas spence was solid with the jab and went well to the body on the inside. Brook was on top for those rounds I mentioned above, but after seeing spence come again, I felt that was the end for Brook. I also felt from there that he couldn't last. In fact, I was surprised that he was still standing after 9th and 10th where Spence literally had a dead man in front of him. I think Brook deserves some credit for that. The eye injury clearly had him thinking a lot and rightfully so. There's no reason to sustain permanent damage. It's a sport at the end of the day, let's not forget. People might disagree, but that's always how I've felt, and would have said the same if it was Spence. Overall, I think Spence looked sharp. Not unbeatable, but I don't really think anyone is at WW. I think Brook looked dead after 7 rounds and should move up to 154. Spence's bodyshots of course were part of that, but even at this point I wouldn't advise Brook to take Khan at 147. It takes him 16 weeks to get down in weight, and that takes its toll on the fight too. I rated Brook above Thurman as it was, so for me Spence is #1 right now until proven otherwise. He really proved to be a champion yesterday night. and he's a good guy too. How could you hate him? He's a nice respectful kid, who doesn't care about fame, just about the glory, plus will clearly fight anyone. That's something.

Comments (20)

michaeluad

What stuck out to me the most was the concerted body work by BOTH fighters but Spence in particular worked both sides of the body.

9y ago

LacedUp

What you have is the Khan syndrome. Rating the guy on the assumed potential of his skills but not his actual performance. Thurman fought the common opponent all the way to the bell while Brook did his John Ruiz impression of hit and hold um no not at all.

9y ago

just_the_facts

soul_survivor gave me red k for this thread :thinking: why? Because you think Tyson Fury is some kind of master boxer... lol. Actually , I have no idea why. Your post is spot on.

9y ago

just_the_facts

Brook took 1-5, period. Many of Spence's jabs were air punches, his body work was on point but there wasn't enough of it, and Brook was much more agile. Spence himself will acknowledge he lost the first half. But that's okay - that's how he fights. Same thing was happening against Algieri, he was getting outboxed at first. It just takes him time to adjust. Bullshyte, Brook might have well won 3 of the 1st 5 rds but no way in hell he swept them. Face it Brook QUIT in a still winnable fight.

9y ago

ELPacman

The Sky commentary was very biased and didn't acknowledge Spence's jab or body work early on. That's why you have a lot of guys on here saying Brook was easily out boxing Spence when he wasn't. I just noticed that after watching the Sky Box version where I saw it live with Showtime. Showtime was a lot more on point with pointing out both guys doing work. Sky practically had zero acknowledgements of Spence until Brook ate a clean combo in like the 7th. Then they read the score cards of "the Americans' and almost didn't realize they were reading very close scores. At the end of the day, the judges even had it right at least. I normally like Sky and try to re-watch a fight with their commentary but this time it felt overly biased against Spence.

9y ago

RussB23

I thought brook was up until about the midway point. He then gassed terribly do to body shots and the weight cut probably contributed too. It was all downhill from their i knew it was over for him.

9y ago

Hype_job

Bigger, better skills and dealt with the one common opponent best. Felt like Brook would have beaten Thurman if they met. Still do. Just not at 147. https://media.giphy.com/media/Vg0JstydL8HCg/giphy.gif

9y ago

TonyGe

Spence was body bagging Brook alot in the early rounds on the inside with short shots abd mostly body shots are hard to keep up with because snapping headshots somewhat overwhelms the moment because of all the moving head and the splatter if sweat. It gives the illusion of the things that are clearly seen are stronger but not really knowing what is on the inside and hidden. Yeah he was landing nice body shots early but it seemed than Kell was more in control of the ring at first. I need to watch it again.

9y ago

STREET_CLEANER

Bigger, better skills and dealt with the one common opponent best. Felt like Brook would have beaten Thurman if they met. Still do. Just not at 147. What you have is the Khan syndrome. Rating the guy on the assumed potential of his skills but not his actual performance. Thurman fought the common opponent all the way to the bell while Brook did his John Ruiz impression of hit and hold

9y ago

denium

I thought it was a pretty even fight until Brook ran out of gas, then Spence took over. He looks a good fighter to me, decent enough skills, punches hard and has great stamina. I think he beats Thurman. Posted from Boxingscene.com App for Android

9y ago

Canelo_and_GGG

IMO Spence overtook this fight in mid rounds and in late rounds he was just punishing Brook ,he got his Jab together and body punches started affecting Kell ,Spence had plan from start to finish "break his man down"

9y ago

The_Comic_DON

Sky was atrocious, Froch gave Kell 5 rounds in a row starting from round 2, the same round Spence started walking down Kell in. Spence was walking Kell down for a lot of the fight, was never in any real trouble. I still think Spence has a gear or 2 more to show of his game, he never had to really dig in deep for the win. He invested in the body REALLY well which paid dividends later on in the fight and then started opening up. Funny how in under a year Kell went from being this undefeated welterweight monster, the mini Mike Tyson slayer to now the 2 time quitter, UK's very own Victor Ortiz. Kell should keep Queen Khan's name out his mouth because ole glass jaw has yet to quit. I've been a critic of Brook and his pathetic 13 year career and rightly so, all he has to show for it is a clinch fest win over Porter and then subsequently holding the belt hostage for a number of years and then finally 2 broken eye sockets from the second and third live bodies he faced, truly pathetic. No Champion will give Kell a shot at 147 and Kell won't beat anyone with a name at 154, he may as well retire to the mulatto chav haven of Ibiza, Tenerife or whatever. How is Brook a 2 time quitter when the corner stopped the fight both times?

9y ago

Redd_Foxx

soul_survivor gave me red k for this thread :thinking: why? Because he has no integrity. I argue with a lot of people on here but he's one of those few who has never conceded a point, accepted the olive branch, have never shown any integrity. He's just a bitter fuk who can't accept the idea that he might be wrong sometimes. We're all wrong, and wrong quite often. We gotta learn to laugh at ourselves sometimes.

9y ago

LacedUp

I gave him major credit for that. He not only fought back, but hit Spence hard enough to seriously slow him. I don't shame him for the "quit" when he had the heart to at least try to rally and take the fight back. Yeah he had a late rally in that round. Epic round actually. But that was the last thing he had in him. The scariest thing about Spence is that he'll only get better. He's still green.

9y ago

LacedUp

Brook won 3 rounds at most Biased commentary didnt sway me All that warrior talk was cringe, because Brook ended up quitting Watch round 10 and tell me Brook is not a warrior? :thinking: He should have been pulled after that round imo. He was completely done and it was dangerous for him to be in there with that eye.

9y ago

Kagami_Taiga

I've watched both versions. The skysports and the Shosports versions. And the Brits were definitely biased talking about Brook dominating and showing Spence what can elite fighter was. Meantime, Spence was drumming away at Brooks body. By the 6th round even the Brits were clear on the fact that the tide ha turned. And it was all down hill from there. Give both men their props, stop the excuses. We got high quality boxing yesterday and ppl are trying to ruin that.

9y ago

Redd_Foxx

In fact, I was surprised that he was still standing after 9th and 10th where Spence literally had a dead man in front of him. I think Brook deserves some credit for that. I gave him major credit for that. He not only fought back, but hit Spence hard enough to seriously slow him. I don't shame him for the "quit" when he had the heart to at least try to rally and take the fight back.

9y ago

FrankieBruno

Brook won 3 rounds at most Biased commentary didnt sway me All that warrior talk was cringe, because Brook ended up quitting

9y ago

Code_Red

Brook took 1-5, period. Many of Spence's jabs were air punches, his body work was on point but there wasn't enough of it, and Brook was much more agile. Spence himself will acknowledge he lost the first half. But that's okay - that's how he fights. Same thing was happening against Algieri, he was getting outboxed at first. It just takes him time to adjust. You are sadly mistaken, its clear you only see what you want and Spence was landing hard shots, especially to the body from the very beginning, if anything the first 6 were split 3-3

9y ago

Real_King_Kong

Body shots played a big role and brook had himself to blame for a lot of them. He would fall in with his shots, initiate the infighting and then not work on the inside at all. Tie up, push off or work...he took a lot of unnecessary body punishment imo.

9y ago