It is pretty well documented that Loma's team sent offers to every single belt holder in the 130 division only to be denied responses. So is it cowardly, or smart or both on the fighters parts for dodging Lomachenko? Can any fighter truly call himself the best if they are so willing to dodge the best competition available?
It's the unfortunate state of boxing today where champions are allowed to cherry-pick their opponents indefinitely. I can see alternating between a tough fight and a softer touch so long as you are consistent. But to hold a belt hostage so you can continue to fight B-level opposition is not the stuff champions are made from. Step up or step out of the way. I still take issue with sanctioning bodies and the way they rank fighters. It's disgraceful to see how high certain fighters are ranked or how one becomes a mandatory when there is clearly more deserving opponents.
Imagine if Sor Rungvisai never took the Gonzalez fight because he was being low balled to fight the p4p #1? Sometimes you just have to man up. I know boxing is a business yada yada yada but lets not forget its the hurt business and sometimes you have to take risks.
ANd you are probably the best poster to ask, what is Gervonta davis and Liam Walsh purse for this weekend? I wonder if Lomas team offered more or around the same??
I agree with this. Fighting a name guy is not just a payday, it is a career opportunity if you are a real fighter.
Also, business cuts both ways. If you reject an offer, and the other side walks, they don't need you. Are they supposed to pay up out of charity?
Everyone such as?
And you still don't get my point. We've heard the same complaint from every fighter they've tried to get, they're being lowballed. Even during the first Salido rematch negotiations. They wanted to give him less money than Martinez. Salido was coming off FOTY, had higher ratings, & put more butts in the seat than Loma. But Loma was guaranteed his 1 mil while Salido was getting less than Martinez. It's the same story from different fighters. Even Arum admitted the offer to Walters was low. I'm just not ready to go with the everybody ducking Loma story because of he was in the same position he wouldn't take that money either.
Imagine if Sor Rungvisai never took the Gonzalez fight because he was being low balled to fight the p4p #1? Sometimes you just have to man up. I know boxing is a business yada yada yada but lets not forget its the hurt business and sometimes you have to take risks.
ANd you are probably the best poster to ask, what is Gervonta davis and Liam Walsh purse for this weekend? I wonder if Lomas team offered more or around the same??
It definitely undermines the title of "champion". It makes you want to just bring back one title per weight class but that's impossible due to the money involved in having individual sanctioning bodies.
There are no guarantees in sports....not that you'd know anything about sports.
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Apparently there are feelings in sports, because you are catching them.
Another fighter being avoided by everyone only to conveniently fight boxers with no hope of winning. The first time Lomachenko struggles against a real life opponent he'll be "old."
Seen this playbook before.
They've lowballed every fighter they wanted. We know for a fact they lowballed Rigo and Walters. It's always the same story with Loma and his team. He's getting paid Terence Crawford type money while only selling out 2,000 seat venues but they expect everybody else to take short money.
If you're fighting in 2,000 seat venues but want to fight me in a 5,000 venue that means you expect to sell more tickets because of me so my pay should be equal to yours if I'm more than doubling your attendance. But everybody ducking Loma doe
I literally don't see anyone calling him out? Wouldn't you think fighters would be up in arms if all the rating systems have Loma as the #1 fighter the #1 Pound for Pound fighter, and everyone is staying in their lane and keeping quiet.
More lies Berchelt and Garcia would fight him today. It's Lomachenco team (arum) who don't want those fights. Lmao y'all tried this same thing with ggg when Lara, Jacobs, and Ward were calling him out
It is pretty well documented that Loma's team sent offers to every single belt holder in the 130 division only to be denied responses. So is it cowardly, or smart or both on the fighters parts for dodging Lomachenko? Can any fighter truly call himself the best if they are so willing to dodge the best competition available?
are those salido type of offers??
Well it's understandable from a business perspective. As someone said earlier, it's very likely you will lose and probably not get paid that well.
At least when Floyd was fighting, you're going to lose but get paid well, and if somehow you did win you would be the biggest thing in boxing and huge in sports in general. There's no real incentives when fighting Loma when you weigh it all up. Yeah a win would be big amongst hardcore boxing fans but the reality is that the likelihood of losing your belt, losing the fight while not making big money outweighs that.
It's sh1t but that's how the business works.
As for the question, it's cowardly.
Offers were made to the other belt holders and highest rated guys in the division, the only guy that was willing to fight was Sosa.
Doesn't sound like Mayweather to me. Floyd the promoter hasn't hesitated in the past to throw his fighters to the wolves. So forgive me if I don't take your word for it. You obviously have no love for anything Mayweather related.
There's video of Floyd saying it.
Mayweather ruled out matching Davis against Vasyl Lomachenko any time soon. Ukraine’s Lomachenko, the WBO super featherweight champion, is commonly considered one of the top three boxers, pound-for-pound, in the world and its a fight Mayweather intends to avoid.
"We’re not thinking about Lomachenko. Lomachenko’s with Top Rank. Let him stay over there with Top Rank. That’s where he’s at. My guy’s gonna do his job and I’m gonna make sure I do my job to the best of my ability, to get what he want.
“Tank, he's young. We wanna build that bank account, be smart, make the right moves.”
It is pretty well documented that Loma's team sent offers to every single belt holder in the 130 division only to be denied responses. So is it cowardly, or smart or both on the fighters parts for dodging Lomachenko? Can any fighter truly call himself the best if they are so willing to dodge the best competition available?
Sssoooooo how bout the ones that did call him out??
you heard it straight from gayweather jr''s mouth they will keep davis away from lomachenko pretty much forever. salido's manager didn't think it was a lowball offer in fact it they almost signed but salido backed out at the last minute. these clowns want retirement level money because they know they get schooled and humiliated by lomachenko.
Doesn't sound like Mayweather to me. Floyd the promoter hasn't hesitated in the past to throw his fighters to the wolves. So forgive me if I don't take your word for it. You obviously have no love for anything Mayweather related.
I don't think it's either. It's karma.
Arum only likes to make in house fights when it benefits him. Now he is willing to make fights with other promoters fighters because he feels loma will beat them. Well why should these guys make fights with arum now when he won't in other circumstances?
Put loma in with salido, Manny or Crawford. Or, show a willingness to make say Manny/Thurman and then maybe loma can be in the semi main against a non arum fighter.
As a boxing fan, I refuse to excuse or condone boxers who avoid significant challenges. I won't give them any credit for being 'smart' or anything like that.
It's cancer.
it is cowardly and disgraceful. I don't know how these fools walk around calling themselves champ with a straight face. they want no part of lomachenko and are praying he moves up.
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