Anthony Joshua vs. Deontay Wilder - Who Has More Power? Poll

Anthony hits harder but is too slow.

Wlad's got plenty of caliber, and a weak as **** chin. This thread isn't about if they can connect it's about what happens after they connect. Wlad goes to sleep easy, always has. The hardest part about KO'ing Wlad is getting to him not having the power. So in what way does caliber of opposition suggest KO power? It doesn't. Same opponents is stupid too, one person got the benefit of fighting after the other didn't they? Plenty of guys on Marciano's record got hurt by Marciano kept fighting and got KO'd even quicker by lesser fighters and retired claiming they never recovered from the Rock fight. Those nameless dudes though totally proved they have more power by KOing Rock's leftovers more quickly yeah? Unless by caliber you mean constitution or chin or some such similar nonsense that post is three dumb**** thoughts away from full-blow tarded It's been statistically PROVEN as FACT that there are two main factors which effects a boxer's KO percentage / record, quality of opposition plus weight of opposition. Based on consistency, boxers have always had their KO% decrease as they stepped up in competition, plus began fighting opponents heavier than themselves. This applies to every weight division, including heavyweight. An example of weight affecting KO percentage of a boxer is Manny Pacquiao. As soon as he stepped up to welterweight, he hasn't been able to KO anybody for roughly half a decade now. Yet, he was knocking opponents senseless consistently when fighting opponents below the welterweight division. There are many other examples of this. Examples of quality of opposition affecting KO percentages of boxers are Joseph Parker and Keith Thurman. Both knocked practically every one of their low ranked opposition, where they're power looked formidable. However, since their recent step up in competition, both of their knockout quantities have reduced. There are also many other examples of this as well. 'Same opponent' do matter and isn't 'stupid'. If I knock 100 10 year old children out unconscious in the first round whilst you have a 70% KO percentage against top ranked opposition in your weight class and have more difficulties knocking your opponents out, is that evidence that I have more punching power? NO, it isn't! Why? Because they're different caliber of opposition. It's entirely possible that you could also knock my 100 10 year old opponents out the way I did and it's also entirely possible that I'd struggle just as much as you did to KO the opponents you fought. 'Same opponent' is in my opinion, the most important way to establish the knockout abilities of two or more boxers when comparing them. The second most important way in my opinion is to use similar caliber of opposition, which are boxers that are ranked as high or as low as each other. This means, two top 10 ranked boxers are similar caliber of opposition. Whereas, two 100 ranked boxers are similar caliber of opposition. We can't compare Deontay Wilder's knockouts over low ranked opposition to Anthony Joshua's knockouts over top ranked opposition. That's not a fair, objective comparison. It's a unlike comparison. We have to compare like for like. This means, we must compare Deontay Wilder's knockouts over low ranked opposition to Anthony Joshua's knockouts over low ranked opposition and Deontay Wilder's knockouts over top ranked opposition to Anthony Joshua's knockouts over top ranked opposition. Both Bermane Stiverne and Dillian Whyte are similar caliber of opposition. Both were in the top 10 when Deontay Wilder and Anthony Joshua fought them respectively. By this comparison, Anthony Joshua knocked Dillian Whyte out cleanly. A guy who has a solid chin, was unbeaten and previously never knocked out before. On the other hand, Deontay Wilder failed to KO Bermane Stiverne, a guy who was beaten already in the past and was stopped too. So according to this comparison, Anthony Joshua is a better knockout specialist and is a more powerful puncher. I'd discount Eric Molina because I do agree that when a boxer was already knocked out in the past, it's much easier for that same boxer to be knocked out in their follow up bouts. A boxer becomes more vulnerable to getting knocked out if they've already been knocked out before. Deontay Wilder may have knocked out extremely poor quality opposition more violently than Anthony Joshua did to much better quality opposition, but again, that isn't evidence of Wilder being a more powerful puncher as that's an unlike for unlike comparison.

Im not sure the term one way washout could be used to describe any part of the wlad joshua fight. In round 11 Wlad got dropped twice, was hurt really bad and didn't land a single shot on AJ... Not one shot. The point where one guy becomes a punching and is only surviving by defending himself, that's not a fight.. That's bullying. That round was a washout.

wilder put malik scott down and out with limited leverage :lol1: :lol1: :lol1:

***Hadn’t lost in a decade… TBH the fight should have been stopped on the second knockdown in the fight..he was clearly hurt. AJ wasn’t landing on Vlad while he was on the rope, true but this is a boxing match. Vlad didn’t land a single shot in round 11.. when one fighter isn’t throwing anything back and is just surviving in the ring by dodging punches, that’s no longer a boxing match.. that’s not a fight.. and boxing rules state fight can be stopped if it’s a one way washout. Im not sure the term one way washout could be used to describe any part of the wlad joshua fight.

C'mon man! This isn't even close; Deontay Wilder. The bomb squad has that one punch equalizing power, to the point where you'll never know what punch he is going to throw to finish the job. Which common opponent or similar caliber of opposition did Deontay Wilder knockout more impressively than Anthony Joshua or even Alexander Povetkin with his supposed 'one punch equalizing power'? I'll await! I can knockout hundreds of ten year old children with my suppose 'one punch equalizing power'. However, it doesn't mean my punchers are therefore more powerful than Anthony Joshua's.

C'mon man! This isn't even close; Deontay Wilder. The bomb squad has that one punch equalizing power, to the point where you'll never know what punch he is going to throw to finish the job.

http://i.imgur.com/hnnDntB.gif I agree with this comment. Here is a clip from Wilder vs. Harrison : notice how obviously terrified referee Terry O'Connor is as he witnesses this onslaught refusing to put himself at risk of these haymakers ( no not David Gay) and thereby temporarily abandoning his post ; Audley was getting beat to a pulp as O'Connor was way over in the next corner when he should of been stopping Deontay from inflicting any more life threatening damage... also its important to recognize that this was in the UK were early stoppages are common but this time they felt something they never experience before at HW -- the 'Bronze-Bomber'. He abandoned his post because the force of the windmills was pushing him back.

joshua puts everything into his shots and a lot of his fights are stopped via referee jumping in wilder put malik scott down and out with limited leverage Compare both of their KO performances against common opposition and similar caliber of opposition, you'll find Anthony Joshua, along with other heavyweight power punchers like Alexander Povetkin have a more impressive KO record than Deontay Wilder. Comparing their knockout power using vastly different caliber of opposition doesn't really allow us to gauge their power objectively.

joshua puts everything into his shots and a lot of his fights are stopped via referee jumping in wilder put malik scott down and out with limited leverage

I'm still yet to see any evidence so far of Deontay Wilder being the most powerful puncher at heavyweight or a more powerful puncher than other 'power punchers' at heavyweight. What has Deontay Wilder done so far in his professional career which suggests he is a more powerful puncher than the likes of Anthony Joshua, Alexander Povetkin and even David Haye? Who has Deontay Wilder knocked out that is more impressive than the knockouts produced by the aforementioned boxers? If we're going to make a comparison that is as valid and sound as possible, we're going to have to compare their knockout performances against common opposition and similar caliber of opposition in order to be fair and objective. Here are some evidence for why Anthony Joshua ARGUABLY is a more powerful puncher than Deontay Wilder: 1) Anthony Joshua stopped Eric Molina in 3 rounds. It took Deontay Wilder 6 extra rounds to stop Eric Molina, when he stopped him in the 9th round. 2) Anthony Joshua knocked Dillian Whyte out cleanly, a similar or even arguably a better caliber of opponent than Bermane Stiverne, which Deontay Wilder couldn't knock out. Consider that Dillian Whyte was previously never knocked out before and was unbeaten until Anthony Joshua knocked him out. On the other hand, Bermane Stiverne was previously knocked out and beaten before fighting Deontay Wilder. Yet, Wilder still failed to KO Bermane Stiverne. Here are some evidence for why Alexander Povetkin ARGUABLY is a more powerful puncher than Deontay Wilder: 1) Alexander Povetkin scored a concussive clean knockout in 6 rounds over Johan Duhapas. The same boxer, Deontay Wilder failed to score a canvas KO over and had to rely on a referee stoppage from accumulation and from Duhapas getting tired than due to his raw punching power. 2) Alexander Povetkin scored a 1st round KO over Mike Perez, a boxer who previously was never knocked out before prior to fighting Alexander Povetkin. Deontay Wilder took 8 extra rounds to KO a similar caliber of opponent in Artur Szpilka when he knocked him out in the 9th round. Both Mike Perez and Artur Szpilka are similar caliber of opponents, but Povetkin knocked his opponent out in 1 round whilst Wilder needed 9 rounds to do the same. The same also applies to David Haye as well. His knockout victory over Dereck Chisora is more impressive than any of Deontay Wilder's knockout wins. If we start comparing Deontay Wilder's knockout performances against common or similar caliber of opposition to other power punchers, then Deontay Wilder's power seems far less impressive comparatively.

You're a fool At least technical ability can be improved being slow as hell with the reaction time of a donkey,cannot.:bottle: Yes technical ability can be changed.. But he’s not improving.. he’s actually looking worse fight after fight.. Surely you can even that despite riding his nuts??

Wilder...Wilder...see, Joshua has to work you over for a couple rounds. Wilder is actually not a very busy fighter as far as power punches. Hes more safety conscious. But he can knock his opponent out with ONE punch :lol1:! Like he did with...... which decent fighter?

Wilder...Wilder...see, Joshua has to work you over for a couple rounds. Wilder is actually not a very busy fighter as far as power punches. Hes more safety conscious. But he can knock his opponent out with ONE punch :lol1:!

Highest level?! you didn't even believe that, that's why you failed to name the boxer that validated A.J in your mind....consider his age and how chinny he is plus the vicious uppercut and other blows that he kept taking and still kept fighting strong after the multiple knockdowns -- like the experts said after the fight ' If that was Deontay' there would of been no controversy and a demand for a rematch. :lol1: :lol1: Klitschko is at least 1million times better at 41 than anyone DW has faced in his whole career.

Ex Champion Mark Breland is best for Wilder. Adam Booth never won sh*t. Breland in an interview said it doesn't matter if Wilder was losing and down on the cards against Washington.. He got the KO. He isn't doing anything for Wilder's technical ability.. That's why Wilder has been looking worse and worse rather than improve fight after fight. Even Kenny Porter said he was at one of Wilder's earlier fights and he saw Wilder getting hit by silly shots and he looked amateurish and was failing to connect his punches.. Wilder ended up getting the KO and went to his corner and said sorry to Jay Deas for looking bad.. And his trainer Jay responded "nothing to be sorry about, you got the KO". He will not learn sh*t all with those yes men all around him.

Deontay Wilder has the ability to produce more power if you give him the space? To wing in those massive hooks he likes to use! But in comparison Anthony Joshua can produce power with more variability! straight punches, Hooks, Uppercuts, and even short punches on the inside! (So overall Anthony Joshua is probably a more devastating puncher!)....But in terms of share PUNCHING POWER generated? Deontay Wilder has probably has the ability to produce more power! Deontay Wilder still has a lot of untapped potential in my opinion from a technical perspective! (I think he could benefit from training with a boxing coach such as Adam Booth!)... Adam Booth in Wilders corner = Win.. He'd be a completely different fighter.. Booth would bring the best out of him.

Deontay Wilder has the ability to produce more power if you give him the space? To wing in those massive hooks he likes to use! But in comparison Anthony Joshua WHO can produce power with more variability! straight punches, Hooks, Uppercuts, and even short punches on the inside! (So overall Anthony Joshua is probably a more devastating puncher!)....But in terms of share PUNCHING POWER generated? Deontay Wilder probably has the ability to produce more power! Deontay Wilder still has a lot of untapped potential in my opinion from a technical perspective! (I think he could benefit from training with a boxing coach such as Adam Booth!)...

Washington got stopped Ross Purrity's leftovers had AJ's face messed up. Vlad is one of the hardest hitting guys at HW. If Duahapas done that to Wilders face..what would AJ or Vlad do? http://e0.365dm.com/15/09/16-9/20/deontay-wilder-alabama_3356848.jpg?20150927145701

Gerald Washington didnt even look like he'd been in a fight after Wilder.. Duahuapas messed Wilders face up badly too.. Deontay was just looking for that one shot! It takes Joshua effort but Deontay has that one hitter to end a fight. Fact.