I remember just a year ago when this fight was rumoured GGG was -500. Basically Kell Brook had better odds to beat GGG.
1 Danny Jacobs fight and it's practically an even fight.
if you analyze the details, nothing has changed. Jacobs is a better fighter than Canelo at 160. Jacobs is bigger, faster and way more powerful. lmao
and Chavez was dead at that weight.
Hey, I am a fan of Canelo.
I think he will win in September.
I am also a fan of Lil g, tho I am hard on him cuz I think he has wasted a large chunk of his career playing it a little too safe.
I am a boxing fan first, however.
That means I gotta call it like I see it.
And that is my honest assessment.
I like Canelo to win, but it will look a lot like the Brook fight if he cannot make Lil g respect him and/or can't deal with Golovkin's power.
None of that was answered last night.
I like Canelo to win, but it will look a lot like the Brook fight if he cannot make Lil g respect him and/or can't deal with Golovkin's power..... yea man. thanks but here again you're right a bout the brook thing.. you know your boxing..
wow brother.. what a beautiful explanation..
Hey, I am a fan of Canelo.
I think he will win in September.
I am also a fan of Lil g, tho I am hard on him cuz I think he has wasted a large chunk of his career playing it a little too safe.
I am a boxing fan first, however.
That means I gotta call it like I see it.
And that is my honest assessment.
I like Canelo to win, but it will look a lot like the Brook fight if he cannot make Lil g respect him and/or can't deal with Golovkin's power.
None of that was answered last night.
These odds are spot on and will get narrower. I said a year ago that 5-1 odds were junk. Golovkin will open as favorite but will end up a slight underdog come fight night.
This is a gonna be an amazing fight, perhaps fight of the decade.
Say you bet on GGG and the fight is close and it goes to the cards, how confident you feeling?? You know oscar will rig the judges for canelo if it goes the distance. Could get a robbery in this one! Its just idk about canelos chin at 160....Can he take GGG shot?
He bullyed Chavez and make him his *****,I was saying that GGG cant bully him,imo nobody will get Bullyed,it will be boxing match ,full 12 rounds
Chavez is a nobody but in boxing, when we speak of bullying, it normally means one fighter pushing and shoving another guy around the ring. That didn't happen, it was a pretty clean fight.
So that's what I mean when I say he isnt that type of fighter, then again neither is GGG and you're right, I think it will be a pretty clean boxing match. GGG is the superior boxer.
I kinda agree here.
Folks are making a lot of assumptions that dont make sense, extrapolating things from the Jacobs fight that can't or won't apply when Lil g and Canelo do it.
If, for example, Canelo had stopped Jr. or had him down or even seriously hurt Jr we'd know Saul had enough power to make Lil g respect him.
As it is, we don't know if Jr respected Canelo's power or simply entered the ring too drained to even contemplate going to war.
If we saw Jr. catch Canelo with some great shots and then see Saul walk thru them or take them well, we might have more of an idea how Canelo will take Lil g's shots.
None of that happened.
And those factors happen to be the most important aspects of the match-up.
If Canelo can't make Lil g respect him, it won't matter how ordinary Lil g's skill level might be.
If Canelo can't take Lil g's power, it won't matter how good a boxer and counterpuncher Canelo is.
And none of that has changed in a year.
All we do know is that a fighter with skill, a decent chin, power, and movement can beat Lil g.
Jacobs gave us that blueprint.
But, while we know Canelo has skill, it is unclear where he is at as far as the other three factors when it comes to middleweight.
wow brother.. what a beautiful explanation..
I remember just a year ago when this fight was rumoured GGG was -500. Basically Kell Brook had better odds to beat GGG.
1 Danny Jacobs fight and it's practically an even fight.
if you analyze the details, nothing has changed. Jacobs is a better fighter than Canelo at 160. Jacobs is bigger, faster and way more powerful. lmao
and Chavez was dead at that weight.
Golovkin faced his first prime, legit, middleweight with the confidence to fight back ... and he barely edged the fight (taking such punishment that he scrapped the big expo showdown that he's been promoting for the last two years).
Alvarez fights different but, again, Golovkin is stepping in with his second legit middleweight with the confidence to fight back, and the bookies aren't looking to risk their asses again.
2:1 is about where the fight should be, tbh
I doubt it. Canelo isn't that type of physical fighter and with GGGs natural size and height advtange, Canelo ain't bullying anybody.
But hey, well find out in a few months.
He bullyed Chavez and make him his *****,I was saying that GGG cant bully him,imo nobody will get Bullyed,it will be boxing match ,full 12 rounds
Yea im not talking about punching power ,in clinch and inside i daubt GGG can Bully Nelo.
I doubt it. Canelo isn't that type of physical fighter and with GGGs natural size and height advtange, Canelo ain't bullying anybody.
But hey, well find out in a few months.
Ooops, I meant t oask why do you think Canelo is a lot stronger than GGG?
But you think they are the same strength now?
Yea im not talking about punching power ,in clinch and inside i daubt GGG can Bully Nelo.
Brook is weaker ,GGG and Canelo are probably have about same streanght,Canelo is havier doe.
Ooops, I meant t oask why do you think Canelo is a lot stronger than GGG?
But you think they are the same strength now?
This is why I continuously call you a hypocrite. GGG beat Jacob's as convincingly as Ward best Kovalev. Yet this reality seems to go over your head.
GGG should be the slight favorite. Canelo is too skilled to he outclassed by anyone other than the greatest fighter of his generation
Yeah right I don't know what planet you're on, but yeah right.
jacobs is twice the size of canelo and ggg still beat him convincingly. canelos style is bread and butter for golovkin, he wont be able to run away
Twice the size now? Ok.
Lol at least we know that Canelo is a legit threat seeing as the Golovkrew aren't sucking him off and propping him up like they did Jacobs.
"Canelo has poor fundamentals...." looooool.
Roll on September.
Canelo is a better fighter than Jacobs in my opinion. Jacobs is bigger but not better. Jacobs fought by far the best fight of his career against GGG who I believe had an off night. I still had GGG a close but clear winner. Canelo and GGG are the two best middleweights in the world and Jacobs is the third best middleweight in my opinion. Canelo has never been knocked down. Jacobs has been knocked down several times and KOed once. Even Mora dropped him. Mora couldn't hurt Canelo. GGG vs Canelo will decide who is the true best middleweight in the world. The winner could fight Jacobs although if the fight is close there might be an immediate rematch.
LMAO
Jacobs is much better than Canelo.
Longer. Faster. His combos are even quicker than Canelo's.
WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY more power. Proven at MW too.
are you even sure Canelo beats a guy like Quillin? a huge 6' MW with 1 punch KO power at MW.
Canelo is a better fighter than Jacobs in my opinion. Jacobs is bigger but not better. Jacobs fought by far the best fight of his career against GGG who I believe had an off night. I still had GGG a close but clear winner. Canelo and GGG are the two best middleweights in the world and Jacobs is the third best middleweight in my opinion. Canelo has never been knocked down. Jacobs has been knocked down several times and KOed once. Even Mora dropped him. Mora couldn't hurt Canelo. GGG vs Canelo will decide who is the true best middleweight in the world. The winner could fight Jacobs although if the fight is close there might be an immediate rematch.
Here's what matters.
Golovkin-Jacobs: damn near a draw except for the knockdown and one swing round (115-112).
Ward-Kovalev: A draw except for the knockdown (114-113).
Both fights: one fighter knocked down once, never again.
Both fights: The A-side is getting outboxed in the middle rounds.
Both fights: the A-side is fighting tentative and not pushing the action.
Both fights: the A-side gets clipped more than they historically have.
Same damn thing.
i posted facts
you posted a bunch of retarded opinions.
are you in pre-school?
A lot of what you said is opinion not fact. Not surprising you don't know what facts are.
This thread is showing how ****ing dumb Golovkins fanbase really are. :lol1:
no it's facts.
look who scored the KD.
look at their faces. who is wearing sunglasses. (damage)
GGG was moving forward most of the fight. fact.
GGG outlanded Jacobs. facts.
Jacobs landing less, getting KD and having a busted up face = worse defense.
GGG has a superior defense. FACT.