AJ Klitschko did amazing numbers worldwide. Why is Wilder not a star?

Wilder is boring and fights nobody's is my guess.

I just think Wilder needs a compelling rivalry and he will be a big star in the US. I honestly think he's marketed fine, it's just his opponents don't set the imagination on fire. I mean Joshua fought the same total bums on his way up but but he was a national hero from the Olympics. Plus the Boxing media has always taken a very cynical approach to Wilder, often openly hostile. And boxing fans in the US have been burned by the Michael Grants and Seth Mitchells of the world. So they need a little more proving to really buy into the hype. Same way the Brits had Fraudley and Price letting them down. For some reason the Brits totally got over it though. HW Boxing is a funny thing like that.. Yes, I agree. What do you think if Wilder fought on HBO as a regular staple? There's something about HBO that elevates fighters.

I would say Wilder has been content to allow Haymon to guide his career, which has stalled him thus far. Yes, he is undefeated and a champion, but just like the rest of Haymon's biggest fighters none of them are making much more than $2M per fight and they aren't getting matched with other big names. Look at Thurman vs. Garcia. Each guy only got $2M for a title fight between undefeated champions. Compare that to Rios vs. Alvarado which earned each guy close to a million, two C-rate fighters who aren't in the same league.

Stop with the fuking excuses for Wilder! ENOUGH ALREADY! Eddie Hearn made the investments for AJ even if it meant overpaying Charles Martin to come and defend his Title in the UK because he KNEW the Investment would be worth it. Wilder missing a Promoter IMO, Haymon is excellent at MANAGING a Superstar like Mayweather but haven't showed he can CREATE ONE yet. I feels like the American Fighters are all "WAITING FOR SUPER STARDOM TO FIND THEM" almost this sense of entitlement from our American Fighters like "Well I'm American So You Should Like Me" UH NO that is not how this sh1t works. You not giving SH1T because you're American! AJ put in work, Eddie Hearn put in work to reach this point. Put Wilder with Arum and I think Wilder is a Bigger Star! That is not to discredit Haymon but he is not a Promoter he is a Manager/Adviser but he stays behind the scenes so who is out Promoting these guys? I know DiBella been speaking out and promoting more for him lately which I think he does need more of. He can speak for himself but it comes off as too Arrogant for a Heavyweight to speak for themselves that sh1t will turn the average sensitive casual fans off. However when Don King was speaking for Tyson it worked great! Don King is a Piece of sh1t for what he did to many fighters but I do think America is missing that Charismatic Promoter that can go on all Platforms and sell a fight! Joshua can be Humble and the Gentle Giant in the UK because he has a charismatic promoter like Eddie Hearn but with a 6'7 Screaming "BOMB SQUAD" that might turn some people off this is how Pu$$y some fans are now like on this forum they just complain about EVERYTHING

Whats the reason for americans being so offended easily? I recognize in many american news outlets and their respective commentary section that you cant say anything without someone being offended. Liberals. The school system is infested with them and their agenda is turning our country into a bunch of weak crybabies.

just needs the right fight..hopefully we get Wilder-Joshua this year

Wilder was in the crowd Saturday night and Joshua calls out fury.. I found that a little odd but maybe he's looking for the crowd pulling fights

The Brits are very loyal boxing fans if they can produce a champion...and the Klitscko's created a dynasty in Germany. Mexicans are also really loyal fans. Wilder has done nothing really to capture the imaginations of American fans. This is exactly right. It has nothing to do with his rubbish opponents. He hasn't caught the public's imagination. You seen a clip of Tyson in the 80s and it was incredible to watch, KO power with speed and skill to match. Wilder has the power but he doesn't have much else in my opinion. A couple of big wins might change that though.

wilder is the most overrated boxer imo. just throws autistic swings/hammer fists in peoples faces, no technique at all. phoney fighter. aj deserves the popularity more than him because he is a better fighter than him, simples.

Whats the reason for americans being so offended easily? I recognize in many american news outlets and their respective commentary section that you cant say anything without someone being offended. We are raising an entire generation of victims. Youth and adults are now taught to be offended by everything. Labels are quickly applied to anyone who is outspoken or whose opinion doesn't fall in line with the status quo. When the media, schools and universities, employers, etc., want to shut you down, you are labeled a racist, misogynist, homophobe, xenophobe, bully, etc. People now look for reasons to be offended. They are choosing victimhood in a society ruled by frivolous lawsuits and special interest groups with social and political agendas. It's a dangerous trend that escalating at an alarming rate.

because he fights bums, why would anyone be hyped about watching one of windmill wilders fights? yet when someone applies this same logic to your love interest (g string), you cry like a little girl. Btw, did you ever find that link that backs up your accusation of Andre Ward being a wife beater? Only a true low life scumbag c0cksukker would accuse someone else of being a wife beater with ZERO proof and I'd hate to think you were that person, so could you please find that link?

Because he stays fighting in po dunk Alabama

It's all about rivalries. The AJ vs Whyte pre-fight feud did a lot to raise awareness of AJ among casuals, same thing with Bellew/Haye. It takes more than shouting "Bombsquaaaaad" to captivate people. I just think Wilder needs a compelling rivalry and he will be a big star in the US. I honestly think he's marketed fine, it's just his opponents don't set the imagination on fire. I mean Joshua fought the same total bums on his way up but but he was a national hero from the Olympics. Plus the Boxing media has always taken a very cynical approach to Wilder, often openly hostile. And boxing fans in the US have been burned by the Michael Grants and Seth Mitchells of the world. So they need a little more proving to really buy into the hype. Same way the Brits had Fraudley and Price letting them down. For some reason the Brits totally got over it though. HW Boxing is a funny thing like that..

Behave, anyone can call anyone out, i can call out wilder, i can call out Charlie Zalenoff. Read any proper boxing books, autobiography's etc from promoters of the golden age and 80's/ early 90's. They all say the same thing, if you want to fight someone, the fight gets made, its much easier than you think Boxing public/fans aint stupid, Wilder was forgiven for taking an easy fight here and there, heck, all the greats have done it but over time, if you make the same mistakes, over and over and over, people become bored and disengaged with you. I dont deny Wilder's power but in fights against Washington, Spilka he has looked very average, struggled against C level fighters and then just relies on a big KO against the grain from nowhere - this is not the behaviour of a champ. You can say AJ's opposition has been poor, i agree his resume is not great but when he has fought those people, he has absolutely dominated them, blown them out, with the exception to maybe 2 rounds against Dillian Whyte and maybe 3 or 4 to Wld. He has barely lost a round as a heavyweight (champion behaviour) You can not say the same about Wilder! in his last fight it seemed to me like he waited on his opponent to get tired and then got him out of there. but lets hope bigger fights will be made in the future. Wilder will never be technically the best. he started late in boxing and is 6'7 hes doing the best with what he has. Joshuah needs work as well but im just happy that there are finally some names in the divison. Wilder was on the right path taking the provtk fight but things went south and he got injured. we will see

you act as if there are a bunch of big names at HW, wilder and AJ will happen in 2018, all the other HWs are just now establishing themselves. the AJ Wlad fight was a business move plus a great opportunity for London. Not to mention AJ said he needed a few fights before wilder. DID YOU MISS THAT??? Fury has been on the shelf for 2 years. this means anyone who he fought outside of those names you all would scoff at outside of maybe Ortiz... everyone else is establishing themselves and will make sense late 2017 mid 2018. Nobody at HW has a great resume 2017-2018 should be the year of better fights at HW things take time. Wilder tried to fight a decent name but was cheated and hes called out everyone including AJ. Behave, anyone can call anyone out, i can call out wilder, i can call out Charlie Zalenoff. Read any proper boxing books, autobiography's etc from promoters of the golden age and 80's/ early 90's. They all say the same thing, if you want to fight someone, the fight gets made, its much easier than you think Boxing public/fans aint stupid, Wilder was forgiven for taking an easy fight here and there, heck, all the greats have done it but over time, if you make the same mistakes, over and over and over, people become bored and disengaged with you. I dont deny Wilder's power but in fights against Washington, Spilka he has looked very average, struggled against C level fighters and then just relies on a big KO against the grain from nowhere - this is not the behaviour of a champ. You can say AJ's opposition has been poor, i agree his resume is not great but when he has fought those people, he has absolutely dominated them, blown them out, with the exception to maybe 2 rounds against Dillian Whyte and maybe 3 or 4 to Wld. He has barely lost a round as a heavyweight (champion behaviour) You can not say the same about Wilder!

its not rocket science, he is nearly 3 years as champ and defended against nobody's. Hes 39 fights into his career and fought Stiveren (an aging champion/paper champion at that) and that is all Great men achieve great things by challenging themselves and he is not challenging himself. If he genuinely wanted to, he could demand his promoters to get him Fury, Wladamir or Joshua. He doesnt want the fights and neither do his opponents. The great thing about Saturday night is the HW are starting to up there game, starting to face each other, then Wilder will be seen for what he is. Raw power that is incredibly wild, when he fights Fury, Fury will dance round his telegraphed windmill all day. Klitschko would tie him up and beet him to every jab. AJ would KO him you act as if there are a bunch of big names at HW, wilder and AJ will happen in 2018, all the other HWs are just now establishing themselves. the AJ Wlad fight was a business move plus a great opportunity for London. Not to mention AJ said he needed a few fights before wilder. DID YOU MISS THAT??? Fury has been on the shelf for 2 years. this means anyone who he fought outside of those names you all would scoff at outside of maybe Ortiz... everyone else is establishing themselves and will make sense late 2017 mid 2018. Nobody at HW has a great resume 2017-2018 should be the year of better fights at HW things take time. Wilder tried to fight a decent name but was cheated and hes called out everyone including AJ.

because americans look for any reason to tear their stars (or whatever) down before anything.

its not rocket science, he is nearly 3 years as champ and defended against nobody's. Hes 39 fights into his career and fought Stiveren (an aging champion/paper champion at that) and that is all Great men achieve great things by challenging themselves and he is not challenging himself. If he genuinely wanted to, he could demand his promoters to get him Fury, Wladamir or Joshua. He doesnt want the fights and neither do his opponents. The great thing about Saturday night is the HW are starting to up there game, starting to face each other, then Wilder will be seen for what he is. Raw power that is incredibly wild, when he fights Fury, Fury will dance round his telegraphed windmill all day. Klitschko would tie him up and beet him to every jab. AJ would KO him

Because people arent dumb. They know that Wilder is a fraud. I dont care if he has a belt. Wilder is a manufactured champion and he is really a fkin bum.

In the past the USA has had such a wealth of top boxing talent - so much so that the top level of the sport was generally American vs American - that the fans got accustomed to viewing pro boxing as an individualistic rather than nationalistic sport and basically being picky about which fighters to support. In the UK it has historically been a relatively rare thing for a fighter to reach world level, so the few who did get there could pretty much rely on the whole country getting behind them. Basically I think American fans have not yet adapted to boxing becoming a more multipolar sport and still have overly high expectations for their fighters. In other words, to be a crossover star in America Wilder would have to do a lot more than Joshua had to do here in the UK - and the truth is, he's done even less than Joshua, so he's really miles away from that status right now, and probably not good enough to ever reach it