So after watching wlad "struggle" so to speak against the fury and Joshua, after each of those fight I've been thinking, hmm maybe if vitali was still around how would he get on against Joshua, fury, wilder and the new "big" heavies....
Do you think if vitali kept fighting like wlad that he would struggle against these opponents taking age slightly out of the equation?
The Klits dominated shorter HW's, plain and simple. They had height and reach advantage over everyone for over a decade. Vitali's only legit loss was coincidentally to the tallest top 10 HW he fought, 6'5" Lennox Lewis.
Wlad's reign came ot an end vs a 6'9" Hw, when the tables turned and he was the shorter man. And now the end of his reign has been confirmed with 6'6" Joshua, a guy his own height.
Sure you will find fringe contenders the Klits fought who who were tall but let's face it, it's when you fight a top guy that it matters. And when the Klits fought tall top guys they lost.
This is coming from a big Wlad fan too, I wanted him to win and I woulda been happy if he KO'ed Joshua in the 6th round. But it's true, Klits weakness is someone their own height or taller who's a top guy.
You can't take age slightly out of the equation because it is a huge part of the equation. Vtali is older than Wlad so his old age would cause him to struggle.Maybe he could beat all of today's heavyweights because of his different fighting style, iron jaw and stronger mentality. I think the prime Viali would easily beat any heavyweight fighting today.
Prime Vitali beats any of the current HWs as of now. Joshua is still a few years away from his prime, but I'd love to see those 2 go at it in there primes if Joshua continues developing
So after watching wlad "struggle" so to speak against the fury and Joshua, after each of those fight I've been thinking, hmm maybe if vitali was still around how would he get on against Joshua, fury, wilder and the new "big" heavies....
Do you think if vitali kept fighting like wlad that he would struggle against these opponents taking age slightly out of the equation?
I'm about 95% certain a prime Vitali would've not only defeated Joshua, but with quite ease as well, along with Fury, and Wilder. Although Fury would probably give him the most trouble.
He probably beats them all. Fury would be the hardest fight for Vitali, just due to the style and movement. Wlad was always more mobile than Vitali and even he couldn't deal with Fury's movement. I could see Fury doing the same kind of job on Vitali. Vitali might have been less cautious to throw but Fury would barely allow a fighter like Vitali be in position to throw.
Actually, Fury is basically a stylistic nightmare for almost any modern big heavyweight. He might not be exciting or explosive but it's effective. How do you even prepare for a 6'9 guy with intelligent ring craft and movement? - As great as Vitali was, he would struggle with this style too.
This well might be true, but before I make the final conclusion on Fury I want to see him against AJ. Wlad was way too tentative that night and I am not sure how would Fury deal with the opponent that hits that hard and doesn't mind taking a few to land one. Fury's chin is not exactly iron one.
He probably beats them all. Fury would be the hardest fight for Vitali, just due to the style and movement. Wlad was always more mobile than Vitali and even he couldn't deal with Fury's movement. I could see Fury doing the same kind of job on Vitali. Vitali might have been less cautious to throw but Fury would barely allow a fighter like Vitali be in position to throw.
Actually, Fury is basically a stylistic nightmare for almost any modern big heavyweight. He might not be exciting or explosive but it's effective. How do you even prepare for a 6'9 guy with intelligent ring craft and movement? - As great as Vitali was, he would struggle with this style too.
Vitali is actually a stylistic nightmare for AJ.
When AJ expended himself in rd 5/6 and he was just standing there against the ropes....... Wlad legit just looked at him while throwing single right hands to the head. he has no punch selection.
Vitali would be throwing hooks, straights to the head while going to the body like he did with Cory Sanders to force the stoppage. Even if AJ survived 5/6, he would never get a 2nd wind due to the body attack. Vitali goes to the body regularly.
I don't think that's obvious at all.
The guys that are fighting now are better than the samuel peters and chris arreolas of the world.
I can't see AJ (who is still green) or Wilder (with those wild punches) beating prime Vitali - no way. Ok, maybe AJ with some monstrous punch - but even that doesn't guarantee the victory as we are talking about the ATG chin.
Tyson would be somewhat competitive, but I think that Vitali's aggression would make it very difficult for Tyson to use the same tactics as against Wlad.
For me, it's quite obvious that Vitali would be a big favorite to beat them all. Same way prime Lennox would be.
Prime Vitali obviously beat them all. Fury would be the most competitive fight for him. IMO AJ and Wilder would get stopped mid to late.
40+ Vitali would struggle with a speed of the younger guys.
I don't think that's obvious at all.
The guys that are fighting now are better than the samuel peters and chris arreolas of the world.
Prime Vitali obviously beat them all. Fury would be the most competitive fight for him. IMO AJ and Wilder would get stopped mid to late.
40+ Vitali would struggle with a speed of the younger guys.
So after watching wlad "struggle" so to speak against the fury and Joshua, after each of those fight I've been thinking, hmm maybe if vitali was still around how would he get on against Joshua, fury, wilder and the new "big" heavies....
Do you think if vitali kept fighting like wlad that he would struggle against these opponents taking age slightly out of the equation?
If he was still in his so to speak prime and not in his 40's I'd say he would beat every one of them, but we thought that with Lewis and Byrd fight but he got injured and had to retire on the stool but anyone can get injured and the same applies to them as well.
Boxing wise he would beat a lot of these guys right now, his style is too awkward for most of these people.
So after watching wlad "struggle" so to speak against the fury and Joshua, after each of those fight I've been thinking, hmm maybe if vitali was still around how would he get on against Joshua, fury, wilder and the new "big" heavies....
Do you think if vitali kept fighting like wlad that he would struggle against these opponents taking age slightly out of the equation?
That's a key point. Vitali would be in his mid 40 now right?
I'm not sure if he'd have the fitness to fight Fury the night Fury beat Wlad. Vitali would be similarly worked over. I feel he'd beat guys who come straight to fight, so AJ, Wilder...they'd be stopped.
Like vitali isn't just a 1-2 puncher, he would double the jab,lead with his right hand and also attack the body...and would just throw more punches and come forward a bit more than wlad
Vitali would have whooped everyone's ass with the exception of maybe AJ. AJ and Vitali would be fighting for the heavyweight championship and it would be an absolute war.
hmm.. I don't think so.