Golovkin Manager, still negotiating, only trust official announcments

I don't think the Golovkin-Saunders fight is going to happen. I mean I hope I'm wrong because I would like to see a fight for all of the belts. But it's already April 11th, the more this drags on the more it probably won't happen. Not on June 10th. There's not enough time for a press conference, etc.... These guys should be focusing on training camp right now. If a proposed fight for Canelo is to be in September, then Golovkin and Saunders can't fight later than June 10th. But it's already April 11th, not enough time. Unless K2 wants to blow off the Canelo fight for September and fight Saunders in July or something. It's just a mess.

I don't understand why people feel the need to jump to conclusions or to speculate as to the professionalism of proven negotiators. There are business tactics that exist purely to seem chaotic, to the ends of securing the best deal possible. Just look at Trump. You think you fumbled his way into the White House?? If he's a moron, then what the f*ck are you, is all I've got to say

^^^ bigdummy lol, always post bull****s as usual

Bigdummy, they haven't been commenting on rumors because they are in closed negotiations. Do you know what the word closed means? You obviously don't know the difference between an oral offer and a contract, or you're too much of a troll to care. Oral offers can be withdrawn or changed, even if the other side says, sure, I'll take it. They aren't worth anything. Real negotiations are done privately, and Oscar doesn't do them at all, Gomez does. When Oscar offers this or that it's just to hype a fight. Yeah I posted original information, unlike you who just pounds out a worthless word salad. And when I speculate, I admit that I am speculating, because my opinions are based on facts and not the other way around. BS Loeffler came out and responded to Oscar saying that a June fight puts a Sept canelo fight in jeopardy. Said Oscar is saying this publicly but Gomez the president at Golden Boy hasn't told me that. Which was ALSO a lie by the way because weeks before Oscar said this Gomez was quoted saying he told loeffler the exact same thing. The point is loeffler can and does dispute reports that make GGG look bad. He just has not said anything about saunders because he can't. Saunders already released the text messages proving him liar. Just like he didn't dispute the Golden Boy amount in the offer because they probably would of said OK you want to lie here the fax copy or emails etc. It's either Loeffler being incompetent letting FALSE reports come out that smear GGG's name and make him look foolish or he doesn't respond because he knows they are true. You choose is he a liar or incompetent? Every other promoter lets the world know this isn't true if they are being lied on. And you didn't answer my question if Saunders agreed to everything what is the hold up? It's April 11 and contracts were written up according to Saunders a month ago. Loeffler is a proven liar https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ZY89EO_Ae84/maxresdefault.jpg

Bigdummy, they haven't been commenting on rumors because they are in closed negotiations. Do you know what the word closed means? You obviously don't know the difference between an oral offer and a contract, or you're too much of a troll to care. Oral offers can be withdrawn or changed, even if the other side says, sure, I'll take it. They aren't worth anything. Real negotiations are done privately, and Oscar doesn't do them at all, Gomez does. When Oscar offers this or that it's just to hype a fight. Yeah I posted original information, unlike you who just pounds out a worthless word salad. And when I speculate, I admit that I am speculating, because my opinions are based on facts and not the other way around. logic and reasoning will never intersect where bigdunny1 is concerned, didn't ya know?!

Speculation? Loeffler has never disputed that Golden Boy offer was 8 figures, never disputed that Warren was told GGG is injured and has yet to dispute the Yahoo report. If all these people just lying on GGG why hasn't his promoter come out to set the record straight? Maybe because nobody is lying but this clown Loeffler. I said day 1 the money in kaza phuk stan wasn't real and even your own dumb azzz made posts saying they are having trouble coming up with the money. So is the kaza phuk stan government lying too? You tell us what the hold up is if Saunders has already agreed to every demand and they had contracts already drawn up BEFORE the Jacobs fight? Bigdummy, they haven't been commenting on rumors because they are in closed negotiations. Do you know what the word closed means? You obviously don't know the difference between an oral offer and a contract, or you're too much of a troll to care. Oral offers can be withdrawn or changed, even if the other side says, sure, I'll take it. They aren't worth anything. Real negotiations are done privately, and Oscar doesn't do them at all, Gomez does. When Oscar offers this or that it's just to hype a fight. Yeah I posted original information, unlike you who just pounds out a worthless word salad. And when I speculate, I admit that I am speculating, because my opinions are based on facts and not the other way around.

Total speculation. I suspect you wrote that on your tin foil hat. Speculation? Loeffler has never disputed that Golden Boy offer was 8 figures, never disputed that Warren was told GGG is injured and has yet to dispute the Yahoo report. If all these people just lying on GGG why hasn't his promoter come out to set the record straight? Maybe because nobody is lying but this clown Loeffler. I said day 1 the money in kaza phuk stan wasn't real and even your own dumb azzz made posts saying they are having trouble coming up with the money. So is the kaza phuk stan government lying too? You tell us what the hold up is if Saunders has already agreed to every demand and they had contracts already drawn up BEFORE the Jacobs fight?

I hope it's true. Would be a shame to pass up a quick chance for unification, after how long it's taken to get to this point.

Exactly Loeffler decided to use Yahoo to break the promoter spin on the PPV buys. NOT ESPN. Fat Boy dan hasn't broke anything relevant regarding GGG so no clue why quoting them. Who is the one that told Yahoo this story? Who it the one who told Warren that GGG is injured but didn't first tell Abel so they could be on the same page with their BS excuse? This only comes from Loeffler. You got GGG coming out saying canelo will try and duck me watch him offer me a 2m low ball offer right before he fights Smith. Then after the fight Canelo and Oscar tell the world that weeks ago they sent Loeffler a 8 digit offer and hasn't gotten a response back making GGG sound like a phuking idiot. Meaning at the exact time GGG is saying they will offer me only 2m his promoter had an offer of ATLEAST 10m in his office. So did Loeffler keep this info from GGG or is GGG lying because Loeffler days later confirmed that the offer from Golden Boy was received and has NEVER denied the amount. Next Loeffler comes out before the jacobs fight saying we will agree to be the B side with Canelo getting more then GGG out his own mouth a week later GGG contradicts his own promoter says he want's a 50/50 offer for Canelo. You trying to make sense of this non sense when the truth is Promoter, Manager, Fighter, Trainer has all proven to not be on the same page and are not singing the same message. Sorry GGG camp is a hot mess. GGG manager coming out speaking against something that was put out clearly by Loeffler. Just like Loeffler NEVER came out denying he told Warren GGG is injured he won't come out denying this report either just watch. This is amateur hour they can't make any big fights and can't even get their lies straight. Total speculation. I suspect you wrote that on your tin foil hat.

Loeffler didn't leak anything, he told them what the numbers were, and that was to Kevin Iole, not Chris Mannix. Frankly, you post nothing but anti-Golovkin stuff, and it's largely baseless. You are clearly biased and there is no reason anyone should listen to you. Several times I have been the first person to post information that isn't available in the English news outlets yet. Why don't you try contributing something around here?bingo. bigdummy1 is nothing but a stooge for fishnets and gbp. posts like he has inside knowledge on k2 dealings.

Loeffler didn't leak anything, he told them what the numbers were, and that was to Kevin Iole, not Chris Mannix. Frankly, you post nothing but anti-Golovkin stuff, and it's largely baseless. You are clearly biased and there is no reason anyone should listen to you. Several times I have been the first person to post information that isn't available in the English news outlets yet. Why don't you try contributing something around here? Exactly Loeffler decided to use Yahoo to break the promoter spin on the PPV buys. NOT ESPN. Fat Boy dan hasn't broke anything relevant regarding GGG so no clue why quoting them. Who is the one that told Yahoo this story? Who it the one who told Warren that GGG is injured but didn't first tell Abel so they could be on the same page with their BS excuse? This only comes from Loeffler. You got GGG coming out saying canelo will try and duck me watch him offer me a 2m low ball offer right before he fights Smith. Then after the fight Canelo and Oscar tell the world that weeks ago they sent Loeffler a 8 digit offer and hasn't gotten a response back making GGG sound like a phuking idiot. Meaning at the exact time GGG is saying they will offer me only 2m his promoter had an offer of ATLEAST 10m in his office. So did Loeffler keep this info from GGG or is GGG lying because Loeffler days later confirmed that the offer from Golden Boy was received and has NEVER denied the amount. Next Loeffler comes out before the jacobs fight saying we will agree to be the B side with Canelo getting more then GGG out his own mouth a week later GGG contradicts his own promoter says he want's a 50/50 offer for Canelo. You trying to make sense of this non sense when the truth is Promoter, Manager, Fighter, Trainer has all proven to not be on the same page and are not singing the same message. Sorry GGG camp is a hot mess. GGG manager coming out speaking against something that was put out clearly by Loeffler. Just like Loeffler NEVER came out denying he told Warren GGG is injured he won't come out denying this report either just watch. This is amateur hour they can't make any big fights and can't even get their lies straight.

K2 and GGG are a mess. Yahoo appears to be the outlet of choice for K2. Loeffler leaked K2 PPV estimate to Yahoo who were the first media to officially release those numbers. Not fat boy dan or ESPN who it seems never breaks any details on GGG. So Yahoo is the media Loeffler uses. And Warren already exposed the fact that K2 and GGG are not on the same page as he said he was told by K2 aka Loeffler that GGG was injured and that was holding up the fight. Then Abel came out saying that's not true GGG is not injured. No way Mannix who is the mouth piece of Loeffler would report this if he wasn't told by Loeffler or someone else at K2. But Loeffler has been exposed as liar and 2 faced. First lied saying there was no agreement to fight Saunders. Lie Saunders released the text messages that prove there was agreement and contracts ready BEFORE Jacobs fight. Probably GGG and his manager want the fight and are out of the loop and Loeffler just couldn't deliver it. My assumption has always been the hold up is MONEY. The kaza phuk stan fairy tale money never existed. Just like Pacman 35m Dubai offer never existed. Loeffler made promises to a bunch of people based on fake money that Loeffler can't come up with. But what a clown show K2 is. LMAO Loeffler didn't leak anything, he told them what the numbers were, and that was to Kevin Iole, not Chris Mannix. Frankly, you post nothing but anti-Golovkin stuff, and it's largely baseless. You are clearly biased and there is no reason anyone should listen to you. Several times I have been the first person to post information that isn't available in the English news outlets yet. Why don't you try contributing something around here?

I knew he'd duck Canelo!

Negotiations should be closed. **** all these so called sources and rumors. This is business, it's like people act like NDAs don't get signed and that everything is public.

K2 and GGG are a mess. Yahoo appears to be the outlet of choice for K2. Loeffler leaked K2 PPV estimate to Yahoo who were the first media to officially release those numbers. Not fat boy dan or ESPN who it seems never breaks any details on GGG. So Yahoo is the media Loeffler uses. And Warren already exposed the fact that K2 and GGG are not on the same page as he said he was told by K2 aka Loeffler that GGG was injured and that was holding up the fight. Then Abel came out saying that's not true GGG is not injured. No way Mannix who is the mouth piece of Loeffler would report this if he wasn't told by Loeffler or someone else at K2. But Loeffler has been exposed as liar and 2 faced. First lied saying there was no agreement to fight Saunders. Lie Saunders released the text messages that prove there was agreement and contracts ready BEFORE Jacobs fight. Probably GGG and his manager want the fight and are out of the loop and Loeffler just couldn't deliver it. My assumption has always been the hold up is MONEY. The kaza phuk stan fairy tale money never existed. Just like Pacman 35m Dubai offer never existed. Loeffler made promises to a bunch of people based on fake money that Loeffler can't come up with. But what a clown show K2 is. LMAO

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