per his Fatness....
Dan (New York)
Golovkin dream is unify the belts (saunders). Money and popularity is the Canelo fight. DLH now says that if he fights Saunders he put in risk the fight between GGG & Canelo. Knowing that Oscar already said even before the fight Canelo-Cotto that next Canelo fight should be against the winner of Lemieux-GGG, and since then it's being dragging it. What would you recommend GGG? Saunders or sit and wait?
Dan Rafael, The Boxing Guy (12:35 PM)
I believe GGG will fight Saunders in June. He is not going to be dictated to by Canelo and give up his dream for the 4th belt. He can go have homecoming fight for many millions (I've heard around $10 million) for a fight he will win win handily vs. Saunders. It's a no-brainer. If Oscar and Canelo don't like that that's on them and they will suffer the wrath of the fans and press if they blow the fight.
http://www.espn.com/sportsnation/chat/_/id/52273/dan-rafael-boxing-chat-march-24-2017
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What kind of fallacy is that? you lost the argument.
This is not about myself, I quoted posts from Jubei and Bigdramashow.
Finishing it here. Kisses.
I lost the argument? :lol1:
Cheers, mate.
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Idk why you feel the need to keep bringing yourself up. This place does not revolve around you nor are you the only one posting here.
What kind of fallacy is that? you lost the argument.
This is not about myself, I quoted posts from Jubei and Bigdramashow.
Finishing it here. Kisses.
I never said it wasn't allowed or if he can handle it or not or whatever, all I said is that you can't complain about him only taking WW when he just faced a dude who outweighed him. You're discussing two different things now.
No, you were discussing something completely different, so I countered what you said.
Hmmm, so 13 lbs on fight night is the same thing as getting a guy in the ring who's last fight was at WW in which he was only allowed to rehydrate to 157...13 whole lbs after rehydration huh? How many fighters are able to easily handle a 15-20 lb weight difference? The great buttlovekin is p4p #1 according to espn...so it should be no problem right? He spars and beats up HW's too, so no problem right? Talk about a silly post.
I never said it wasn't allowed or if he can handle it or not or whatever, all I said is that you can't complain about him only taking WW when he just faced a dude who outweighed him. You're discussing two different things now.
Just fought Jacobs who prob outweighed him by 13 pounds and just won a decision in NY. Silly post
Hmmm, so 13 lbs on fight night is the same thing as getting a guy in the ring who's last fight was at WW in which he was only allowed to rehydrate to 157...13 whole lbs after rehydration huh? How many fighters are able to easily handle a 15-20 lb weight difference? The great buttlovekin is p4p #1 according to espn...so it should be no problem right? He spars and beats up HW's too, so no problem right? Talk about a silly post.
Ohhhh, I see...well perhaps he should rematch one of his tougher opponents...Rubio has gotten even older, he's probably available, or some other ww he can drag up 13 lbs? I mean, it's not like he's gonna lose a decision over there in c0ckakstan.
Just fought Jacobs who prob outweighed him by 13 pounds and just won a decision in NY. Silly post
because the expo in astana is a one time event and they are going all out for it. pay attention you stupid fuk.
Ohhhh, I see...well perhaps he should rematch one of his tougher opponents...Rubio has gotten even older, he's probably available, or some other ww he can drag up 13 lbs? I mean, it's not like he's gonna lose a decision over there in c0ckakstan.
That doesn't sound right to me, but if true than it's an easy decision for him and his team to make the fight.
It's a fight that has lost a lot of luster as BJS has been fvck all as a belt holder but it's not a horrible opponent by any means.
If he can make 10 million, why not stay home for every fight? Hmmmmm?because the expo in astana is a one time event and they are going all out for it. pay attention you stupid fuk.
I'm not going to feel guilty about the US government taking my money, and giving some of it back to me. It'd be a big surprise if SS and Medicare is even still around when I get old enough. I should feel guilty about a dictator thug taking other's money (with no representation) and giving it to me.
The US government starting shady wars is making everyone poorer except a select few, and I'm certainly not benefiting from that. And I'm not going to feel guilty because I didn't vote these fuckers in. They'd take me to jail if I don't pay my taxes, so I have no choice in the matter. You'd have a choice in accepting a dictator's money.
Do you also think chop shops are legitimize form of business?
I don't see how watching boxing makes me complicit in any of that.
Part of what you pay turns into tax money which turns into war funds, whether you voted or not, you chose to stay there and fund it.
At least Kazakhstan is not causing worldwide suffering and trying to go in the more correct direction of bringing international funds and attraction to their country. GGG is doing a social service.
Quoting posts from 2016?
I told you that's the normal reaction when people said GGG would duck Jacobs or something. Just read my posts before replying.
Explain how did I predict correctly that it would go the distance and be a 7-5 win for Golovkin? and that some people would ask for a rematch? am I some kind of god? no, it was f*cking obvious.
Trainers and whoever said the contrary were not smart enough when analyzing this fight.
Edit: from the same thread you quoted:
Jubei is probably one of the biggest GGG fans here, and he states there that the Golovkin by KO prediction everyone was making was just to make GGG look bad if he didn't. It was easy to tell.
And yes Bigdramashow called it correctly before the fight:
Daniel jacobs is a serious threat to golovkin... thread.
Idk why you feel the need to keep bringing yourself up. This place does not revolve around you nor are you the only one posting here.
If that is your standard, then if you are American when the time comes you should definitely reject receiving Medicare or Social Security, based on all the shady sh*t this country does on a daily basis.....
I'm not going to feel guilty about the US government taking my money, and giving some of it back to me. It'd be a big surprise if SS and Medicare is even still around when I get old enough. I should feel guilty about a dictator thug taking other's money (with no representation) and giving it to me.
The US government starting shady wars is making everyone poorer except a select few, and I'm certainly not benefiting from that. And I'm not going to feel guilty because I didn't vote these fuckers in. They'd take me to jail if I don't pay my taxes, so I have no choice in the matter. You'd have a choice in accepting a dictator's money.
Do you also think chop shops are legitimize form of business?
Lol the country which has destabilized the entire modern world, from South America to middle East to Korea is usa. They have caused globalized suffering. Don't watch any fights from US. Morality is nice to apply when something doesn't fit your agenda.
I don't see how watching boxing makes me complicit in any of that.
https://borgenproject.org/poverty-kazakhstan/
https://imgur.com/fY5691E.jpg
Someone explain to that little girl up that she needs to keep on living in that shed so the government could fund Golovkin's belt collection.
With all due respect, just about every athlete in the world could be implicated like this, if we were to hold GGG to task about the poverty in his country. Everywhere you go, there are Government wings and Councils pumping money into sporting events, stadiums and all sorts.
He's not getting 10 million for the fight because the numbers don't add up.
you do not know how russians or kazakhs think. There are rich people who can buy a yacht for 1 billion. What is 10 -15 mil to them and their ego?
I literally stopped reading at the bold. I am sorry you typed up such a long post for nothing.
I stopped reading because:
1) Are you saying trainers and fighters are stupid?
2) Bigdramashow said Jacobs had a chance? Brb
Edit:
Ok Im back.
So much for that huh?
Quoting posts from 2016?
I told you that's the normal reaction when people said GGG would duck Jacobs or something. Just read my posts before replying.
Explain how did I predict correctly that it would go the distance and be a 7-5 win for Golovkin? and that some people would ask for a rematch? am I some kind of god? no, it was f*cking obvious.
Trainers and whoever said the contrary were not smart enough when analyzing this fight.
Edit: from the same thread you quoted:
This poll is amazing. Great American Middleweight, second best fighter in the world at that weight, huge ko percentage. And yet 90% pick GGG by knockout. Whenever was a fighter valued so highly?
Jubei is probably one of the biggest GGG fans here, and he states there that the Golovkin by KO prediction everyone was making was just to make GGG look bad if he didn't. It was easy to tell.
And yes Bigdramashow called it correctly before the fight:
Daniel jacobs is a serious threat to golovkin... thread.
What people need to remember is that jacobs is a competely different fighter to the pirog fight. That was 7 years ago and he was a kid back then. He was also up on the cards before the knockout. Any fighter can get knocked out, and him getting ko'd once doesnt mean he has a bad chin. In fact his chin may be underrated if anything.
Since that loss he has looked very impressive, destroying well respected fighters such as peter quillin and sergio mora.
Jacobs has a real legitimate chance of winning this, this will not be a walkover for golovkin.
Only stupid people thought that Jacobs had zero chance. Bigdramashow and other GGG fans said here that Jacobs was the #2 MW and had a chance, and was ridiculed for it. So was I.
It's like when they say GGG is ducking Lara. Of course we would react by saying: "no way, he kills Lara". The truth is I believe Golovkin would not duck Lara. I believe he would beat him. Easy? maybe not, maybe another close fight, maybe late KO. I would give Lara chances, but I think GGG beats him, period.
Many of us reacted to the "GGG will duck Jacobs" posts by saying GGG would easily beat Jacobs, I remember, but the point there was to prove we didn't feel GGG was avoiding Jacobs.
I literally stopped reading at the bold. I am sorry you typed up such a long post for nothing.
I stopped reading because:
1) Are you saying trainers and fighters are stupid?
2) Bigdramashow said Jacobs had a chance? Brb
Edit:
Ok Im back.
jacobs has about as much chance as canelo which equals, NO CHANCE
think jacobs might go pretty early to be honest, wouldnt be shocked if its an early finish. Think charlo and andrade coming up from JMW are harder fights than jacobs. Hes not going to get much credit if he beats him anyway cause people will just shrug and say, oh well pirog beat him anyway.
So much for that huh?
And they fight next month, and BJS still doesn't have a fight. So guess what happens after they fight and BJS still doesn't have a fight
Why pay the step aside money?
Why not just fight Khurtsidze in Feb/March then?
1) You should read my posts before quoting me cause nowhere in there did I say Maxi.
2) GGG haters? No my friend, plenty of you fanboys were claiming Jacobs had ZERO chance. Eastcoast, Jubei, boliodogs and the list goes on. So, the only one lying here to prove a point is YOU. Because there are plenty of fanboys on record claiming Jacobs had ZERO chance. Not to mention the predictions before the fight were 99.999999999% all in favor of GGG. This includes BScene posters, fighters, trainers and the media.
So, like I said, let's not forget Jacobs supposedly had zero chance.
Only stupid people thought that Jacobs had zero chance. Bigdramashow and other GGG fans said here that Jacobs was the #2 MW and had a chance, and was ridiculed for it. So was I.
It's like when they say GGG is ducking Lara. Of course we would react by saying: "no way, he kills Lara". The truth is I believe Golovkin would not duck Lara. I believe he would beat him. Easy? maybe not, maybe another close fight, maybe late KO. I would give Lara chances, but I think GGG beats him, period.
Many of us reacted to the "GGG will duck Jacobs" posts by saying GGG would easily beat Jacobs, I remember, but the point there was to prove we didn't feel GGG was avoiding Jacobs.
I was referring back to the dude who said Canelo HAS NO CHANCE vs GGG.
It seems Oscar & Canelo agree with me.
You can go back on my posts, I've always said that Jacobs would give Golovkin a tougher fight than Canelo. That said, yeah I didn't see Jacobs holding up as well as he did, but I didn't factor in a 38 hour weigh-in either.