Andre Ward and Daniel Jacobs - both stalling their fights to delay VADA Testing?

Jubei ducking his own thread after getting owned again. No surprise there.

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Everybody knows that GGG wanted to fight Jacobs in December, he already had an HBO date, but Team Jacobs insisted on delaying the fight and claimed https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=726081 Then much much later, Jacobs finally signed to fight GGG to fight in March but he didnt yet sign his VADA papers! Middle of January, Jacobs was already training hard and Jacobs still was not enrolled to VADA, while GGG has been enrolled for the Clean boxing program since the Lemieux, which means 24/7 testing. Jacobs eventually signed his papers 6 weeks prior to the fight which is not remotely enough time to properly test a fighter. Jacobs who trained with PED Guru Victor Conte migh thave used all kinds of Performance Enhancing Drugs in his training camp until late January before "cycling off" and still get huge benefits leading into the fight with GGG. Andre Ward is doing something similar. The contract has a rematch clause which had an intended 4 months period of VADA testing, which would be ideal for efficient testing, the fight is supposed to happen on June 17th, that is less than 3 months away. It seems quite obvious that Ward is trying to stall the rematch as long as possible, same as Danny Jacobs, to delay VADA Testing and is doing some shady stuff. Again, Vada testing will be inefficient when a fighter like Ward can control when actual testing starts. Ward and Jacobs are following the blueprint of Floyd Mayweather who started to announce his last couple fights at a surprising late date to delay drug testing. Unless you do 24-7-365 testing then nothing is ever enough to catch these guys who cheat. Only the dummies get caught. Secondly, It didn't matter when Floyd announced his fights, he had USADA in his pocket already. Rumors of multiple failed tests and getting last second exemptions from USADA is all you need to know about them as a testing agency in boxing. I find it funny most if not all the high level testing is now Vada testing and we hardly hear about USADA doing anything in boxing anymore.

No, he hasn't. Why are you making things up? GGG was in the process of cycling off when he delayed VADA for the Lemeiux fight until 2.5 weeks before the fight. It was his first non-vacant title fight so he needed the biggest ped boost as he could get for this one. At the same time he could pretend that he's a clean fighter by signing on to a useless doping program where he could control when actual testing starts. He also was cycling off when he delayed VADA until 4 weeks before the Wade fight. Still had to take peds, but not as many need compared compare to Lemeiux, hence the slightly longer testing. GGG only signed on to the Clean boxing program until 7 weeks before the Kell Brook fight because he didn't have to take as many peds to fight a welterweight compared to middleweights. The first fight where he had to take 24/7 testing was against Jacobs, which was noncoincidentally the fight where he got a gift decision since he didn't have precious peds to help him. https://media.giphy.com/media/qyglOEsLwEjAs/giphy.gif

Any non-24/7/365 testing is bs ^^^^^ pretty much this.

No, he hasn't. Why are you making things up? GGG was in the process of cycling off when he delayed VADA for the Lemeiux fight until 2.5 weeks before the fight. It was his first non-vacant title fight so he needed the biggest ped boost as he could get for this one. At the same time he could pretend that he's a clean fighter by signing on to a useless doping program where he could control when actual testing starts. He also was cycling off when he delayed VADA until 4 weeks before the Wade fight. Still had to take peds, but not as many need compared compare to Lemeiux, hence the slightly longer testing. GGG only signed on to the Clean boxing program until 7 weeks before the Kell Brook fight because he didn't have to take as many peds to fight a welterweight compared to middleweights. The first fight where he had to take 24/7 testing was against Jacobs, which was noncoincidentally the fight where he got a gift decision since he didn't have precious peds to help him. https://media1.giphy.com/media/SjW6C2HwwluTu/200_s.gif

Despite the fact they are based over here? Ever heard the saying guilty by association? Yea... that applies here.

Which is hilarious cause Maxi was going around claiming GGG did 365 testing and when I asked for source he disappeared as usual. If anyone is juicing here, is those dirty Eastern Euros. We know how they dope over there. Despite the fact they are based over here?

Despite the fact they are all based over here?

did you see the first ward-kovalev fight? just to make it fair ward should get all the peds he wants.

Jubei is ducking his own thread. Team GGG doesn't even believe in testing more than a month. They're just doing it because they're being forced by the WBC. http://www.thesweetscience.com/feature-articles/21499-sanchez-speaks-up-for-golovkin-regarding-vada-testing Which is hilarious cause Maxi was going around claiming GGG did 365 testing and when I asked for source he disappeared as usual. If anyone is juicing here, is those dirty Eastern Euros. We know how they dope over there.

Everybody knows that GGG wanted to fight Jacobs in December, he already had an HBO date, but Team Jacobs insisted on delaying the fight and claimed https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=726081 Then much much later, Jacobs finally signed to fight GGG to fight in March but he didnt yet sign his VADA papers! Middle of January, Jacobs was already training hard and Jacobs still was not enrolled to VADA, while GGG has been enrolled for the Clean boxing program since the Lemieux, which means 24/7 testing. Jacobs eventually signed his papers 6 weeks prior to the fight which is not remotely enough time to properly test a fighter. Jacobs who trained with PED Guru Victor Conte migh thave used all kinds of Performance Enhancing Drugs in his training camp until late January before "cycling off" and still get huge benefits leading into the fight with GGG. Andre Ward is doing something similar. The contract has a rematch clause which had an intended 4 months period of VADA testing, which would be ideal for efficient testing, the fight is supposed to happen on June 17th, that is less than 3 months away. It seems quite obvious that Ward is trying to stall the rematch as long as possible, same as Danny Jacobs, to delay VADA Testing and is doing some shady stuff. Again, Vada testing will be inefficient when a fighter like Ward can control when actual testing starts. Ward and Jacobs are following the blueprint of Floyd Mayweather who started to announce his last couple fights at a surprising late date to delay drug testing. Here are my sources. Where are yours? @Vada_Testing welcomes @GGGBoxing & @lemieuxboxing to VADA. @TomLoeffler1 @GoldenBoyBoxing @K2EP #cleansport— Vada-Testing.org (@Vada_Testing) September 30, 2015 Welcome @GGGBoxing back to @Vada_Testing Thank you to @TomLoeffler1 /K2 & @wbcmoro #CleanBoxingProgram soon to officially begin.#cleansport— Vada-Testing.org (@Vada_Testing) March 25, 2016 Welcome @SpecialKBrook @GGGBoxing to the VADA#CBP program for their 9/10 fight in #London @TomLoeffler1 @MatchroomBoxing @wbcmoro @WBCBoxing— Vada-Testing.org (@Vada_Testing) July 21, 2016 Welcome @DanielJacobsTKO to @Vada_Testing as he prepares to face @GGGBoxing March 18,2017. @premierboxing @TomLoeffler1 @WBCBoxing #CBP— Vada-Testing.org (@Vada_Testing) January 26, 2017

Hm. I think you may be on to something. Wow.

Any non-24/7/365 testing is bs. Making a big deal of a couple weeks or even a couple months for agreed testing is just covering a couple more yards on a hole in PED testing thats the size of a football field. Correct. The use of PEDs in boxing is far greater than most believe/accept. The coaches, managers and fighters all know that but noone wants to whistleblow.

Jubei is ducking his own thread. Team GGG doesn't even believe in testing more than a month. They're just doing it because they're being forced by the WBC. http://www.thesweetscience.com/feature-articles/21499-sanchez-speaks-up-for-golovkin-regarding-vada-testing I have a comment on some criticism from you and others regarding the VADA testing," Sanchez told me. "First, understand that we, teams Golovkin and Lemieux, were under no obligation to test. There is a substantial cost for tests, but Triple G requested that and understood the costs. I want to point out, fighters get criticized for not taking it, and now we are being criticized for only giving it one month. If a fighter is dirty, it will only take one sample to prove it, they take blood randomly. Why is it there can't be at least an 'attaboy!' for agreeing to take it?

No, he hasn't. Why are you making things up? GGG was in the process of cycling off when he delayed VADA for the Lemeiux fight until 2.5 weeks before the fight. It was his first non-vacant title fight so he needed the biggest ped boost as he could get for this one. At the same time he could pretend that he's a clean fighter by signing on to a useless doping program where he could control when actual testing starts. He also was cycling off when he delayed VADA until 4 weeks before the Wade fight. Still had to take peds, but not as many need compared compare to Lemeiux, hence the slightly longer testing. GGG only signed on to the Clean boxing program until 7 weeks before the Kell Brook fight because he didn't have to take as many peds to fight a welterweight compared to middleweights. The first fight where he had to take 24/7 testing was against Jacobs, which was noncoincidentally the fight where he got a gift decision since he didn't have precious peds to help him. :lol1::lol1::lol1: Nothing else to see here folks.

Facts...... Cognitive dissonance is too much for Jubei to handle. Also, Jacob's testing was just as long as GGG vs Brook's testing, not 6 weeks.

No, he hasn't. Why are you making things up? GGG was in the process of cycling off when he delayed VADA for the Lemeiux fight until 2.5 weeks before the fight. It was his first non-vacant title fight so he needed the biggest ped boost as he could get for this one. At the same time he could pretend that he's a clean fighter by signing on to a useless doping program where he could control when actual testing starts. He also was cycling off when he delayed VADA until 4 weeks before the Wade fight. Still had to take peds, but not as many need compared compare to Lemeiux, hence the slightly longer testing. GGG only signed on to the Clean boxing program until 7 weeks before the Kell Brook fight because he didn't have to take as many peds to fight a welterweight compared to middleweights. The first fight where he had to take 24/7 testing was against Jacobs, which was noncoincidentally the fight where he got a gift decision since he didn't have precious peds to help him. Facts......

While GGG has been enrolled for the Clean boxing program since the Lemieux, which means 24/7 testing. No, he hasn't. Why are you making things up? GGG was in the process of cycling off when he delayed VADA for the Lemeiux fight until 2.5 weeks before the fight. It was his first non-vacant title fight so he needed the biggest ped boost as he could get for this one. At the same time he could pretend that he's a clean fighter by signing on to a useless doping program where he could control when actual testing starts. He also was cycling off when he delayed VADA until 4 weeks before the Wade fight. Still had to take peds, but not as many need compared compare to Lemeiux, hence the slightly longer testing. GGG only signed on to the Clean boxing program until 7 weeks before the Kell Brook fight because he didn't have to take as many peds to fight a welterweight compared to middleweights. The first fight where he had to take 24/7 testing was against Jacobs, which was noncoincidentally the fight where he got a gift decision since he didn't have precious peds to help him.

I think you have replaced Michael Jordan as the definition of "reaching" http://cdn3-www.craveonline.com/assets/mandatory/legacy/2013/06/man_file_1045070_27-michael-jordan-space-jam-stretched-arm.png