Who would you have as # 1 p4p and why if not ward?

Learn to speak English and formulate a coherent sentence before you reply back to me, ****ing negro troll. Keep veiling your true believe....... CAN YOU DENY ANYTHING I SAID? NOPE....get GGG's nuts out your mouth..dude doesnt deserve p4p entry look at who he's fought and failed to impress vs his best opponents fvcking negro troll...might as well come out and say what you really feel...racist beotches are Hercules online, but in person....its a whole different scenario " i have black friends lol, we cool bro..we cool bro"' get that azz whooped...all humble faced in public bwahahahahahahahahahahaha

Learn to speak English and formulate a coherent sentence before you reply back to me, ****ing negro troll. Keep veiling your true believe....... this isnt grammar 101 or english 101 what is a negro lol you must have the inferiority complex a black guy banged you wife? stole you girl? kicked your ass? my true believe is you actually have to BEAT ELITE FIGHTERS to be p4p...stay butt hurt ALT ALERT

Pacquiao 2 relatively dominant wins over top 10 fighters in his division in the past year. One was the #2 ranked fighter in his dvision (Bradley). That win over Bradley can be considered the single best win of any top fighter as far as quality of opponent + margin of victory over the past year. Bradley is arguably on the same level as some of guys in this thread being named p4p #1...and Pacquiao beat him with relative ease. Yeah but Pacquiao retired after he bradley fight and thus should not have been on p4p lists anymore. He did come back and beat a legit top 10 welter but he didnt look particularly good won easily but im talking about the actual performance). Def deserves a place in the top 10 but hardly no. 1. Come on, do you want me to go over this yet again? I understand your problem is that Ward deserves to be in any list regardless of opponents but after Dawson (even that fight is a joke but lets give it to Ward) the so called p4p entrant didnt fight a world class opponent for 4 YEARS. And I'm being very loose with my definition here and giving Barrera a shout as a world class opponent (on account of a couple good wins). Add to that the fact tha the was inactive for over a year (thats an automatic exclusion in my criteria) and then he came back to fight 2 journeymen, at best. Paul Smith had to fight at 170+ lol None of that is comparable to GGG fighting former 3x champion Geale, top contender Macklin (who in the eyes of most beat the longest reigning middle weight champ at the time) and top level contender Murray. Add in the Lem unification and thats that. He has beaten the best available opponents in his division and done so looking levels above them for the most part. Thats all a fighter can do. Its why Wlad is considered a great heavyweight or Finito Lopez a great minimumweight. Ward fighting journeymen outside of their best weight is pathetic in comparison and so for me doesn ot put him back into the p4p list before the arrival of th Kovalev fight. It really is as simple as that. My list and criteria are there t oread and consistent. E.g. Bradley would be on my list and should be on any list but he has last his last fight and then been inactive. Cant keep on the list while other fighters have been active and won. Unless you believe Rodriguez and Smith are better opponents than Macklin, Murray, Geale, Lem and Jacobs? Just gonna leave this here as another defeat for the ward gang.

Why you're in your feelings Alt alert? You know you're gonna have to deal with ward won a close top level fight Yamanaka, Thurman, Bradley, Estrada, several other fighters are more accomplished n more proven than GGG, just as if not more talented/skilled ....great list other than his inclusion...IMO danny Garcia even with a loss to Thurman, with his resume should be higher ...dude beat the odds a lot and lost to the better man....it's guys in their 20s more proven n taken more risks than GGG.... Pretty sad but he a monster most feared doe....dey ducking lol Learn to speak English and formulate a coherent sentence before you reply back to me, ****ing negro troll. Keep veiling your true believe.......

On accomplishment and form, Ward has a strong case for number one. I put Loma above just for the fact that he fights at a higher level. No comparison in terms of achievements though. If his win against Kovalev was clear, he'd be undeniable. I had him losing though, which counts a little against him. Still deserves credit for taking on and getting the nod against Kovalev. It was close enough.

Its like people forgot that Manny Pacquiao is still active. I have him #1 on my list. Imo he can beat anyone in the welterweight division which is the most competetive one right now. Ships sailed...he isn't the fighter he once was...he's lost several times the last few years and literally has not BEATEN any of today's best welters not named Bradley....how can you be #1 p4p and not even proven you're #1 in your division? Bradley beat who @ 147? Only top 5 WW he beat was an old JMM that ktfo PAC n a controversial Dec over PAC Thurman beat porter, Garcia Brook beat porter is fighting Spence Will PAC ever fight a top 5 ww again....nope....BROB ADUM miliking the cow

It's anyone but Ward for these cats :lol1: That's what it seems like. I don't like Ward he is boring as fawk and can't draw flies to sh it but you can't say he isn't #1

So your P4P #1 is a guy with exactly one quality win and got lucky to win that one by a razor thin decision. That's some man crush you got going on there. and this years winner of Dick Rider of the year. ...... Tea that was award winning sucking off on his part

Of course you'd agree with this retard. Two dumbasses separated at birth....... To answer your question, Kovalev. Ward @ 2. Choco, Manny, Canelo, Rigo, GGG, Crawford, Loma, Inoue round out the Top Ten... Why you're in your feelings Alt alert? You know you're gonna have to deal with ward won a close top level fight Yamanaka, Thurman, Bradley, Estrada, several other fighters are more accomplished n more proven than GGG, just as if not more talented/skilled ....great list other than his inclusion...IMO danny Garcia even with a loss to Thurman, with his resume should be higher ...dude beat the odds a lot and lost to the better man....it's guys in their 20s more proven n taken more risks than GGG.... Pretty sad but he a monster most feared doe....dey ducking lol

Lol check mate Damn you been batting 1000% lately lol Of course you'd agree with this retard. Two dumbasses separated at birth....... To answer your question, Kovalev. Ward @ 2. Choco, Manny, Canelo, Rigo, GGG, Crawford, Loma, Inoue round out the Top Ten...

Its like people forgot that Manny Pacquiao is still active. I have him #1 on my list. Imo he can beat anyone in the welterweight division which is the most competetive one right now.

Yes most of these guys need to step it up and 2017 hasnt been bad at all so far. Hell yea....last year wasnt bad either Pbc finally started matching the best vs the best(to the dismay of detractors) Showtime picking up and title fights on reg TV....yes....starting to feel like the 90s all over again

gennady golovkin. Is the most dominant champion and thats why hes my number 1. Has been on top of middleweight for a long time now. So your P4P #1 is a guy with exactly one quality win and got lucky to win that one by a razor thin decision. That's some man crush you got going on there.

a lot of those guys were established champions....good share bro. this era is literally experiencing a changing of the guard. things will be all cleared up in 2 years Yes most of these guys need to step it up and 2017 hasnt been bad at all so far.

I thought Kovalev kicked his ass and Ward just doesn't seem that good pound for pound these days. For pound for pound I have to judge the Ward of today and not the Ward of many years ago who beat good fighters in the supper six.Ward is about 9th on my top 10 PFP list. ....whose # 1

Pacquiao 2 relatively dominant wins over top 10 fighters in his division in the past year. One was the #2 ranked fighter in his dvision (Bradley). That win over Bradley can be considered the single best win of any top fighter as far as quality of opponent + margin of victory over the past year. Bradley is arguably on the same level as some of guys in this thread being named p4p #1...and Pacquiao beat him with relative ease. great post That last fight with bradley was good but he already fought the guy 2 times prior..Vargas' claim to fame was beating a prospect in Ali Thurman's win over Garcia and Porter are more impressive..both were in their prime, Garcia was undefeated and Porter only lost to Brook at the time for manny to get back in the top 3 for me, he has to beat a top 5 ww NOT named Bradley.....Bradley is a good fighter but he is getting a little worn since the provodnikov fight. he hasnt looked right since to me. Rios is punching bag so that wasnt an impressive win IMO if manny beats Winner of brook/ Spence or unifies with Thurman, he should be #1....but he wont fight those guys. Bob likes that in house dough

I thought Kovalev kicked his ass and Ward just doesn't seem that good pound for pound these days. For pound for pound I have to judge the Ward of today and not the Ward of many years ago who beat good fighters in the supper six.Ward is about 9th on my top 10 PFP list.

Pacquiao 2 relatively dominant wins over top 10 fighters in his division in the past year. One was the #2 ranked fighter in his dvision (Bradley). That win over Bradley can be considered the single best win of any top fighter as far as quality of opponent + margin of victory over the past year. Bradley is arguably on the same level as some of guys in this thread being named p4p #1...and Pacquiao beat him with relative ease.

why did many lists have GGG in it, when he has never faced any elite fighter in a ten plus year career? let alone anyone near the p4p top ten why does yours even have GGG in it at the time if you are worried about fighting top opposition? in his career GGG has fought one top guy at 160 and thats Jacobs.....Geale had just lost to barker and got trounced by Cotto, just after.....Lemmy is top 5 but he hasnt proven to be top 3 elite yet......so by your own admission, GGG shouldnt be in the top 5, let alone top ten considering he has fought very few world class guy lol but i bet he was in your top ten p4p....you gotta be consistent and not make your biase, double standards so easy to see lol has Ward ever lost? no he beat Dawson in 2012( a champion)...rodriquez was a top ten contender at 168 at the time he fought him, thats world class in 2013....he didnt fight in 2014 and only fought paul smith in 2015 he beat a solid top ten 175er in Barrera and unseated a top 5 p4p entrant in kovalev in 2016 where did you get four years from? :alcoholic has he beaten elite Come on, do you want me to go over this yet again? I understand your problem is that Ward deserves to be in any list regardless of opponents but after Dawson (even that fight is a joke but lets give it to Ward) the so called p4p entrant didnt fight a world class opponent for 4 YEARS. And I'm being very loose with my definition here and giving Barrera a shout as a world class opponent (on account of a couple good wins). Add to that the fact tha the was inactive for over a year (thats an automatic exclusion in my criteria) and then he came back to fight 2 journeymen, at best. Paul Smith had to fight at 170+ lol None of that is comparable to GGG fighting former 3x champion Geale, top contender Macklin (who in the eyes of most beat the longest reigning middle weight champ at the time) and top level contender Murray. Add in the Lem unification and thats that. He has beaten the best available opponents in his division and done so looking levels above them for the most part. Thats all a fighter can do. Its why Wlad is considered a great heavyweight or Finito Lopez a great minimumweight. Ward fighting journeymen outside of their best weight is pathetic in comparison and so for me doesn ot put him back into the p4p list before the arrival of th Kovalev fight. It really is as simple as that. My list and criteria are there t oread and consistent. E.g. Bradley would be on my list and should be on any list but he has last his last fight and then been inactive. Cant keep on the list while other fighters have been active and won. Unless you believe Rodriguez and Smith are better opponents than Macklin, Murray, Geale, Lem and Jacobs?

Not just the no.1 spot. I mean look at the names being on the list than look at the names on these lists. http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/The_Ring_Magazine's_Annual_Ratings:_Pound_For_Pound--2000s a lot of those guys were established champions....good share bro. this era is literally experiencing a changing of the guard. things will be all cleared up in 2 years