It was in Martinez' HBO contract to fight GGG after Cotto

for that idiot daggum who loves to talk but doesn't know what the hell he's talking about. Loeffler said Martinez never ducked GGG and Martinez promoter said it was in Sergio's contract to fight GGG if he beat Cotto Martinez is a known ducker, he avoided the Chavez fight for 2 years and then retired after he stole a victory. He definitely ducked GGG, there are numerous comments from Di Bella, his promoter, saying that they wanted nothing to do with that fight.

I thought Pirog agreed to fight Golovkin but suffered his career ending back-injury before the fight could go ahead. Some fight that would have been.

If he actually just fought him instead of fighting guys like Macklin and Murray we could have maybe seen a still in shape prime Martinez Vs. GGG... too bad, Martinez was scared of this match up.

Everybody already knows Martinez, along with (Sturm, Quillin, Pirog)and anyone else back then wanted nothing to do with Golovkin. Clear duck by Martinez. Unofficial W for Golovkin. These unofficial "ducking victories" often go unnoticed and untalked about on this forum, I've noticed. Especially when people try to downgrade GGG's opponents. so Ward, Lara and Canelo have unofficial Ws over g string?

Got 18, maybe heard it wrong, was 4am after all Martinez Zbik Chaves Jr Cotto Alvarez Sturm Geale Jacobs Pirog N'Dam Quillin Lee Saunders Sylvester Barker Soliman Taylor Lemieux Eh, I guess you have to count when Golovkin was the regular WBA champ, which I think is ridiculous, but that's a tired old debate.

So you are saying that champions don't need to defend against the best challengers? When a guy like like he's walking on a wooden leg, he needs to retire. It's pathetic that people wanted him to stay around so GG could pick his bones. He shouldn't have fought Cotto in that condition but I think he wanted the paycheck.

Good thread Cobra. Puts that debate at rest. We'll just have to repeat it 5million times before the hardcores actually accept it. SMH at the ghouls who are still angry that a near cripple didn't fight their guy. If that's how you want him to get his wins, that says a lot about how you truly feel about Golovkin. So you are saying that champions don't need to defend against the best challengers?

Where are you getting your fake news from? Loeffler disagrees with you. Before the Martinez-Cotto fight Loeffler is saying Martinez never turned down a GGG fight. Son this was ether. End thread.

22? Martinez Cotto Canelo Lemieux Solimon Sturm Barker Geale Taylor Quillin Lee Who else? Jacobs was not a champion. Got 18, maybe heard it wrong, was 4am after all Martinez Zbik Chaves Jr Cotto Alvarez Sturm Geale Jacobs Pirog N'Dam Quillin Lee Saunders Sylvester Barker Soliman Taylor Lemieux

Where are you getting your fake news from? Loeffler disagrees with you. Before the Martinez-Cotto fight Loeffler is saying Martinez never turned down a GGG fight. /Thread.....

Good thread Cobra. . Puts that debate at rest. We'll just have to repeat it 5million times before the hardcores actually accept it. SMH at the ghouls who are still angry that a near cripple didn't fight their guy. If that's how you want him to get his wins, that says a lot about how you truly feel about Golovkin.

22? Martinez Cotto Canelo Lemieux Solimon Sturm Barker Geale Taylor Quillin Lee Who else? Jacobs was not a champion. Geale was counted as one of the champions that had fought him, with Lemieux and Jacobs. Ill try and work it out later, interested aswell

It was said on Boxnation last night, in the time Golovkin has been a middleweight champion theres been 22 other holders of middleweight belts, and hes only managed to get a fight with 3 of them, Jacobs the 3rd 22? Martinez Cotto Canelo Lemieux Solimon Sturm Barker Geale Taylor Quillin Lee Who else? Jacobs was not a champion.

Golovkin wasn't exactly a big name until a few years ago. By that time Martinez was struggling with countless knee surgeries which culminated in his hobbling through a non-fight with Cotto. Martinez didn't "run scared" into retirement. He retired because he was 39 years old and could barely walk. What a disrespectful revision of history for all parties involved.

It was said on Boxnation last night, in the time Golovkin has been a middleweight champion theres been 22 other holders of middleweight belts, and hes only managed to get a fight with 3 of them, Jacobs the 3rd I'll give you a very brief list at the top of my head of MW champions that are in that list you're tlaking about... who literally said "no" i will not fight Golovkin at some point, for various reasons... Danny Jacobs (at one point) Peter Quillin Billy Joe Saunders Felix Sturm Miguel Cotto Canelo Alvarez...

Everybody already knows Martinez, along with (Sturm, Quillin, Pirog)and anyone else back then wanted nothing to do with Golovkin. Clear duck by Martinez. Unofficial W for Golovkin. These unofficial "ducking victories" often go unnoticed and untalked about on this forum, I've noticed. Especially when people try to downgrade GGG's opponents. It was said on Boxnation last night, in the time Golovkin has been a middleweight champion theres been 22 other holders of middleweight belts, and hes only managed to get a fight with 3 of them, Jacobs the 3rd

Everybody already knows Martinez, along with (Sturm, Quillin, Pirog)and anyone else back then wanted nothing to do with Golovkin. Clear duck by Martinez. Unofficial W for Golovkin. These unofficial "ducking victories" often go unnoticed and untalked about on this forum, I've noticed. Especially when people try to downgrade GGG's opponents.

he became a gay escort after the cotto fight. fuq fighting GGG lol