It would make 160 better and there would be less 147-160 catch weight BS. Also, I find this weight creates a lot of problems. You have 147 guys who take on 154 guys, but the 154 guys never want to move up to 160.
It's a divisions that in my opinion, is causing problems. It's not just Canelo GGG. The Charlos would be great additions to 160, so would Andrade...
"WITHOUT THE 154 pound division"
I like this alot
164lbs would basically become the murder's row of weight classes (an amalgam of 147/154/160 would be wild to figure out a top 15 would settle out), but you'd basically be left with a whole bunch of fighters simply getting fighting fit and figuring out what they want to do.
Fighting fit, pre any weight cut middleweight fighters are generally slightly bigger than junior middleweight fighters, who are generally a touch bigger than welterweight fighters. How the fighter manages their diet and how hard they're body is willing to weight cut usually draws out the lines.
add a +5lb check weight on the morning of the fight, and you'd basically end up with what most these fighters see in sparring anyway, just with small gloves and no headgear
154 is one of the best divisions in boxing and usually where welters finish their careers out as well, same for 147 these two divisions are both stacked and a lil apart from each other, if anything needs to be removed it's anything under 118.
There's no problem with 154, noticed how it was singled out? It's a GGG thing, they want him to feast on guys from 147-154 and refuse to say he should move up to 168.
JMW has had some great fighters, but now it should be eliminated for GGG.
Griffith
Kalule
Leonard
Duran
Benitez
Hearns
McCallum
Ayala Jr
Mugabi
Jackson
Curry
Vasquez (very underrated not talked about much, Ring top 10 at 154 from 1991-1998, at worst was #6, and was #1 for two straight years in that span, was top 3 for the majority of 91-98)
Norris
De La Hoya
Mosley
Wright
Mayweather
Trinidad
Quartey
Vargas
Forrest
Martinez
etc.
154 is one of the best divisions in boxing and usually where welters finish their careers out as well, same for 147 these two divisions are both stacked and a lil apart from each other, if anything needs to be removed it's anything under 118.
I'm fine with doing away with it. Makes 160 much more stacked. In fact, I think it has hurt 160 over the years. Guys wait on welters to fight them but never go to 160. If they had no choice, they'd have to face the big boys which they should anyway.
Exactly, I think it's killing 160 right now. True 160 fighters just fight at 154 to build there name. they should have been 160 to begin with
If boxing was to go to fewer weight classes then they should consider dropping weight classes that are only 4 pounds or less from another weight class. 112 and 115 are only 3 pounds apart. Go up 3 more pounds and you have the 118 pound class. Going from 122 to 126 is a very small gap as is 126 to 130. If you eliminate 154 then welterweights must stay welterweights or go up 13 pounds. Many on this forum were outraged when the fight between welterweight champ Brook and middleweight champ GGG was announced.
let's have no weight classes, everyone fights at HW
Chavez can eat as many burritos as he wants, there's no gain to cutting down
GGG can pack on 40 pounds or not be able to compete, etc.
we'll see how good Floyd is fighting Tyson Fury, lol
This is the Caneloweight dimension. There is only a 155lb division here & thats all there has ever been. What is this 154lb division of which you speak? Seems silly to make a weight division only 1 lb beneath Caneloweight.
I only originally read the title....
I understand what is going on within the thread now.
"They should leave the 154 division as it is!"....
What you are saying makes no sense at all.!54 is a wonderful weight class. 147 and 160 are both wonderful weight classes. No changes need to be made. Leave these weight classes as they are and leave them alone. Worry about some problem that needs fixing. The 154 pound weight class is fine the way it is and has been for the last 55 years.
I think that most of the guys at 154 are big enough to fight at 160. And also, by eliminating weight classes, the belts for that weight class would surely follow?
Why would eliminating weight classes eliminate sanctioning bodies? WBC, WBA, WBO, IBF are all here to stay. Eliminating 154 or all junior divisions will not make them go away.
Priority should be on one belt per weight class, this will equal one champion = better fights.
Another problem is the sanctioning bodies rankings, they are always full of hot garbage fighters. I mean look at Thurman's mando, Lamont Peterson? What??? Lol, and you say weight classes are the issue? Hell no.
I'm assuming you meant without*
First things first, eliminating weight classes won't do a damn thing without the following:
1. Bring back same-day weigh-ins. You'll have more fighters fighting closer to their real weight.
2. Boxing would be better with one belt per weight class, not less weight classes. If you get rid of 3 major titles and only leave one, that eliminates a lot of issues.
3. 154 is fine, it lets WW's who are too big for WW but undersized for MW be able to continue making weight in a healthy manner.
I think that most of the guys at 154 are big enough to fight at 160. And also, by eliminating weight classes, the belts for that weight class would surely follow?