How would you rank them currently with both resume & skill in mind.
My ranking:
1. Manny Pacquiao - Still the best in my opinion until someone shows they can beat him.
2. Keith Thurman - I think only Pacquiao, Bradley, Brook or Spence can possibly beat him in the division. I'd favor him over Bradley or Brook at this point. With Spence it's difficult to say since we still haven't seen Spence fight an elite fighter yet to see how good he really is.
3. Timothy Bradley - He mainly is #3 due to his resume, but I think half the guys on this list have a chance to beat him at this point.
4. Danny Garcia - I guess this is debatable due to all the questionable decision wins. But officially he still is undefeated against a lot of tough opposition.
5. Kell Brook - I placed him above Spence due to being the champion.
6. Errol Spence - He can very well be considered one of the top 3 welterweights by the end of this year if he beats Brook & another top 10 welterweight this year. But right now #6 is probably the best spot for him.
7. Shawn Porter - I don't see him beating anyone above him on my list except for possibly Brook in a rematch or Garcia.
8. Amir Khan - He hasn't been active enough lately & I don't see him beating any of the guys above him on my list.
9. Lamont Peterson - He hasn't done enough at welterweight & hasn't been active enough lately to possibly be any higher.
10. Jessie Vargas - Decent fighter & just barely makes the top 10, but he doesn't beat any other top 10 welterweight.
We will be getting thurman v Garcia and Brook v Spence and the winners of these 2 match ups need to face each other without an 18 month build lol
Agreed..Lol
I think it could be a solid div if these guys at the top of the div could fight each consistently ya know..That's the problem with boxing in a way,not enough consistent top level guys fighting each other..It is getting a lil better tho..
Yes I agree Khan has the better overall resume no doubt about it..I'm just saying neither have a win of note in about 4 or 5 yrs and Berto has a better WW resume imo..
We will be getting thurman v Garcia and Brook v Spence and the winners of these 2 match ups need to face each other without an 18 month build lol
Are we talking full career resumes? cos Khans ****s all over bertos, especially in terms of wins.
Peterson shouldnt even be boxing after all his failed drug tests and zero punishments but I put him in at 10 cos you know, a top 10 list has to have 10 members.
Honestly, I think 147 has become a pretty poor division.
I think it could be a solid div if these guys at the top of the div could fight each consistently ya know..That's the problem with boxing in a way,not enough consistent top level guys fighting each other..It is getting a lil better tho..
Yes I agree Khan has the better overall resume no doubt about it..I'm just saying neither have a win of note in about 4 or 5 yrs and Berto has a better WW resume imo..
Still a better one then Khan or Peterson have right now in 2017..lol
Are we talking full career resumes? cos Khans ****s all over bertos, especially in terms of wins.
Peterson shouldnt even be boxing after all his failed drug tests and zero punishments but I put him in at 10 cos you know, a top 10 list has to have 10 members.
Honestly, I think 147 has become a pretty poor division.
I don't agree with your train of thought,Berto has a real resume at 147lb Khan beat Collazo at WW and really that's it..Then went up and was ko'd his last fight out..I can't put Khan ahead of Berto tbh and Peterson I need to see another win in all honest..
I also disagree about Lopez I believe he was a world class fighter..No biggie tho it's all opinions anyways..
A real resume, yeah, 5 years ago in 2012 lol
1. Thurman
2. Brook
3. Porter
4. Pacquiao
5. Garcia
6. Amir Khan
7. Spence
8. Bradley
Not based on achievements (otherwise it's obviously Pacquiao), just based on who I think are the best fighters.
I'll be impressed to see Brook make it back down to welterweight tbh, have heard he really struggles to make that weight.
You think Brook has a comparable resume to Thurman??I do not agree with that at all..
I never put them in order I know thats the whole point of the thread im jus saying its difficult to since the current best at 147 are yet to fight each other
But I wouldn't argue The ghost,porter,collazo, karass is a not better resume than bizier,porter,dan,gavin your right but neither are top quality ill wait till these next fights are done
Until pac retires or loses to either garcia thurman brook or spence he has to be number 1 his achievements and resume are miles better than those currently active at 147
As for the order behind him we will know after the next few months i mean can we rank garcia high up? Title holder but yet to fight a credible ww imo he would only be second place by the fact brook and thurman ect have the same average resume i really wish maidana was still active and hungry he could have been a real force against these current welters
You think Brook has a comparable resume to Thurman??I do not agree with that at all..
Until pac retires or loses to either garcia thurman brook or spence he has to be number 1 his achievements and resume are miles better than those currently active at 147
As for the order behind him we will know after the next few months i mean can we rank garcia high up? Title holder but yet to fight a credible ww imo he would only be second place by the fact brook and thurman ect have the same average resume i really wish maidana was still active and hungry he could have been a real force against these current welters
Jos Lopez is not world class. The version of Ortiz Berto beat is not world class. But ify ou count those guys as world class then Khan beat the guy who annihilated Ortiz, so Khan should in no way be below Berto. Your criteria does not make any sense.
In terms of who should be there, Peterson.
I don't agree with your train of thought,Berto has a real resume at 147lb Khan beat Collazo at WW and really that's it..Then went up and was ko'd his last fight out..I can't put Khan ahead of Berto tbh and Peterson I need to see another win in all honest..
I also disagree about Lopez I believe he was a world class fighter..No biggie tho it's all opinions anyways..
He beat Lopez and was just in the ring with May I really don't agree but whatever not serious to me..Who would you like instead of Berto out of curiosity cause i think the rest of my list is solid..
Jos Lopez is not world class. The version of Ortiz Berto beat is not world class. But ify ou count those guys as world class then Khan beat the guy who annihilated Ortiz, so Khan should in no way be below Berto. Your criteria does not make any sense.
In terms of who should be there, Peterson.
A win? Lol what's that supposed to win. The guy hasn't had a world level win in 4 years.
He beat Lopez and was just in the ring with May I really don't agree but whatever not serious to me..Who would you like instead of Berto out of curiosity cause i think the rest of my list is solid..
I think Pacquiao, Thurman and Brook are top 3. They are the only fighters in division that would have a chance against even 40 years old Floyd, on my opinion. Bradley and Spence would be N. 4 and 5. Porter would be N. 6. , Garcia N. 7, Khan N. 8, Vargas N. 9 and Horn N. 10.
Yes Berto who has a win and a ok resume at 147lb..I don't see the issue.
A win? Lol what's that supposed to win. The guy hasn't had a world level win in 4 years.