Wlad is a longtime former champ
Haye is a former cruiser champ and wba titlist
outside of those 2 you'd be lucky to find a heavyweight with 2 or more wins over top ten opposition
wilder has talent and gets knockouts....i thought thats what you wanted in a heavyweight and he has charisma, never in a dull fight
is it because he is an american represented by Al Haymon?
I think you need to look up the definition of the word resume.. its a summary.
A summary is a cv.. a list of all history wins and losses.
Prime chagaev? He never had a prime lol. How did haye swerve like the plague when haye fought valuev for the WBA after valuev had regained it after his MD loss to chagaev... ( a much less conving MD than hayes win and you know it ). When chagaev fought valuev haye was still a ****ing CW you mong.
Oh but we're counting wins over Cruiser weights? I'll be sure to remember to come back to this once Haye beats the WBC cruiserweight champion.. who beat a guy for the belt ranked higher than huck? Gtfo with your triangle victory theory bull.
Btw carlos takam has never been a top 5 heavyweight in his ****ing life the sorry good for nothing bum merchant.
Haye beats the drug cheat.. the same drug cheat who was more than likely on the peds for every ****ing win he had so the fact you even give povetkin any credit shows where your loyalties lie.
Be cool if they fought so he could lose to a cruiserweight.. a much better one than Marco ****ing huck who did his absolute best to have nothing to do with haye at CW
If that's the case the best resume probably belongs to a journeyman with 150 losses.
Its totally moot regardless both fought Wladimir, both lost so Wladimir aside compare the rest of their resumes, its not hard to see whose is better. You're really underrating Chagaev i mean you do realize he not only fought but beat the same opposition as Haye but undeniably fought them when they was far better than the ancient versions Haye took on?
Haye was Chagaev's mandatory for a number of months, years and made every excuse not to fight him instead later going for an easier route in Valuev a guy who Chagaev had already beaten years earlier.
Huck ducked Haye at CW? Hmm I'm pretty sure that Huck had just come on the scene as Haye was moving up. He lost to Cunningham who was calling Haye out left and right. Didn't Haye fight at a catchweight vs Bonin? (could be wrong) then move back down to fight the path of least resistance in Enzo. Huck maybe a lot of things but he's no ducker he's fought everyone and a lot several times. Afolabi x4, peak Cunningham, Lebedev, Povetkin, Arslan x2, Glowacki, soon to be Breidis. He's fought a real murderous row.
Tony Bellew isn't a patch on Marco Huck never was, never will be. Ones an ATG CW the others a paper titliest with 1 defense vs a commentator.
Makabu higher ranked than Huck? Which rankings?
Takam was #5 in the WBC
I can't find Ring Mags rankings, I'm not at my comp.
Again who are you talking about, who are these heavies that are escaping criticism??? Please name them.
If you think you're the best and you have a heavyweight title then you should seek to fight far better opponents than what Wilder has. It's that simple, you're living on another planet if you don't think Wilder deserves flack for his title reign and career up until this point.
he just started boxing in his 20s, he started to peak out like 2 years ago, that in itself is an accomplishment. starting in your 20s and making it as far as he is and improving, I thought you guys were lovers of the sport, his resume isn't the best ok but he was on the right path opponent wise with povtk, its not many big names at HW 2018 will be a good year for HW boxing everyone worth mentioning just came on the scene.
Valuev was 40 lost way more convincingly to Chagaev and was tooled by a 50yr old Holyfield. Valuev retired immediately after. Haye barely did a thing that night and if it wasn't for the uproar of Valuev getting a hometown decision vs an extremely faded Holyfield whom he made look prime he'd of most likely not got the nod.
Ruiz was also almost 40, hadn't beaten anyone of note in a decade. Shot to bits.
We counting losses now as part of resumes?
Chisora had lost several back-to-back going in, lost to every semi decent fighter he's fought to this day. A journeyman.
Povetkin beat a prime Chagaev who beat Valuev (An undefeated, younger, better Valuev) and who Haye swerved like the plague. A better win than anything Haye has.
He also destroyed top contender Mike Perez, a very underrated but aged Cedric Boswell who is far better than Chisora. Marco Huck - #1 CW at the time, Carlos Takam - Prime, top 5 at the time.
Povetkins resume is way ahead of Hayes.
I think you need to look up the definition of the word resume.. its a summary.
A summary is a cv.. a list of all history wins and losses.
Prime chagaev? He never had a prime lol. How did haye swerve like the plague when haye fought valuev for the WBA after valuev had regained it after his MD loss to chagaev... ( a much less conving MD than hayes win and you know it ). When chagaev fought valuev haye was still a ****ing CW you mong.
Oh but we're counting wins over Cruiser weights? I'll be sure to remember to come back to this once Haye beats the WBC cruiserweight champion.. who beat a guy for the belt ranked higher than huck? Gtfo with your triangle victory theory bull.
Btw carlos takam has never been a top 5 heavyweight in his ****ing life the sorry good for nothing bum merchant.
Haye beats the drug cheat.. the same drug cheat who was more than likely on the peds for every ****ing win he had so the fact you even give povetkin any credit shows where your loyalties lie.
Be cool if they fought so he could lose to a cruiserweight.. a much better one than Marco ****ing huck who did his absolute best to have nothing to do with haye at CW
The problem is that he's fought 1 half decent fighter in almost 40 fights. That's basically the top and bottom of it. I think people would be more forgiving if Stiverne was the only decent fighter he had fought in about 20 fights or something.
I think some do slate him too much, lets remember he was a week away from fighting Povetkin before he got caught. If he doesn't fight another top HW in 2017 though, then i'd say the slating is justified.
Because he's been the Undefeated WBC champion and hasnt fought proper challengers for over 2 years ,if you know boxing (IF ) you would know Washington shouldn't count either even though its his most dangerous guy hes facing yet .
You can play the top guys game of who fought who ,but no one like Wilder who holds a belt has nearly 40 fights with basically nothing to brag about. Its not just Wilder its the joke of a rankings system that lines these guys up for him , Dillian Whyte is practically his biggest nearest threat to Ortiz . Whyte can fight (another guy i said would advance for 2 years now ) and if he takes that fight IF he defeats Washington he will then have a decent resume .And he has to defeat a Whyte or same level guy ,he has nothing to show for his championship reign thus far.
His resume is not impressive to say the last....dammit we would be having this convo if povetkin was clean
He coming off two surgeries so a tune up should've been expected.... They could've did better than arreola but between him.and the other guys, their resumes are equally average
No one really has a good ledger outside the old guys.
This year is gonna be huge for the heavyweights....questions will be answered and I'm sure he'll fight the winner of parker-fury or wlad-joshua. ...Ortiz, who is he lined up to face?
Haye fought Valuev.. ruiz..klitschko..chisora. fury fought two of these...the other two are better than anyone else on his resume. Povetkin has a better resume??! Looooool YDKSAB.
Valuev was 40 lost way more convincingly to Chagaev and was tooled by a 50yr old Holyfield. Valuev retired immediately after. Haye barely did a thing that night and if it wasn't for the uproar of Valuev getting a hometown decision vs an extremely faded Holyfield whom he made look prime he'd of most likely not got the nod.
Ruiz was also almost 40, hadn't beaten anyone of note in a decade. Shot to bits.
We counting losses now as part of resumes?
Chisora had lost several back-to-back going in, lost to every semi decent fighter he's fought to this day. A journeyman.
Povetkin beat a prime Chagaev who beat Valuev (An undefeated, younger, better Valuev) and who Haye swerved like the plague. A better win than anything Haye has.
He also destroyed top contender Mike Perez, a very underrated but aged Cedric Boswell who is far better than Chisora. Marco Huck - #1 CW at the time, Carlos Takam - Prime, top 5 at the time.
Povetkins resume is way ahead of Hayes.
Hayes HW resume is garbage. Seriously garbage.
Povetkin has a better resume as does Tyson Fury.
Haye fought Valuev.. ruiz..klitschko..chisora. fury fought two of these...the other two are better than anyone else on his resume. Povetkin has a better resume??! Looooool YDKSAB.
They make excuses for the other glorified bum beaters
Who Ever calls out wilder?
Also when its a beloved fighter on here..."they ducking him doe"
Everyone even Ortiz, Joshua, Parker all have similar level resumes yet no major criticism on opponents....only the old guys have good resumes @ the weight
That stiverne fight was not dull IMO,
Many posters don't like fighters under Haymon...never figured that one out
It's very simple. Guys like Ortiz and Parker dont have the money or clout to make the big fights happen. We know Ortiz has been avoided like the plague. Joshua has very few fights and is already fighting better competition than Wilder
Wilder is a black murican backed up by mass media and Haymon's money,
He can make the big fights happen, he simply doesn't want to do it, Wilder has something people like Ortiz and Parker dont, the money and media hype to back him up and get him better opponents than bums and school teachers
but Windmiller wants the path of least resistance forever.
No, it's because he's a glorified bumbeater and hypejob
- Padded his record fighting bums from the alley
- Bought his # 3 WBC rank, fought an eliminator match for a title without beating anyone in the top 30,
- Brought his buddy Malik Scott to take a dive for him in said eliminator
- Beat a sick Stiverne (who also sucks) in a dull fight for Vitali's vacated title
- Has fought nothing but subpar opposition ever since
- He'ss now hiding behind his ¨no PED users¨ excuse to avoid people like Ortiz and keep fighting bums
Wilder is a fraud
They make excuses for the other glorified bum beaters
Who Ever calls out wilder?
Also when its a beloved fighter on here..."they ducking him doe"
Everyone even Ortiz, Joshua, Parker all have similar level resumes yet no major criticism on opponents....only the old guys have good resumes @ the weight
That stiverne fight was not dull IMO,
Many posters don't like fighters under Haymon...never figured that one out
Wlad is a longtime former champ
Haye is a former cruiser champ and wba titlist
outside of those 2 you'd be lucky to find a heavyweight with 2 or more wins over top ten opposition
wilder has talent and gets knockouts....i thought thats what you wanted in a heavyweight and he has charisma, never in a dull fight
is it because he is an american represented by Al Haymon?
No, it's because he's a glorified bumbeater and hypejob
- Padded his record fighting bums from the alley
- Bought his # 3 WBC rank, fought an eliminator match for a title without beating anyone in the top 30,
- Brought his buddy Malik Scott to take a dive for him in said eliminator
- Beat a sick Stiverne (who also sucks) in a dull fight for Vitali's vacated title
- Has fought nothing but subpar opposition ever since
- He'ss now hiding behind his ¨no PED users¨ excuse to avoid people like Ortiz and keep fighting bums
Wilder is a fraud
Yap....yap....yap....
Outside the old guys like hate, wlad n povetkin
All their resumes suck.
Once again, the relaity is, 99% of thsoe hevayweights are not WBC "champion". Wilder is. Since winning the title, he has not faced a single legitimate opponent.
If you think thats how a champion should behave, that is fine and your opinion.
if you want to suck black dick, why didnt you just say so.....:twak:
queers these days....smh :twak:
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/image.php?u=12977726&dateline=1432086550
i do suck black dick. see the picture above he have an impressive dick, i say the best dick in his generation. it was worth it having his cum all over my face, look at those bewitching smile, i always fantasize those pretty lip wrap around my kock, i'm sure you fantasize the same thing too.
well it just you and your friends love sucking fighter dick as long is black and american. wilder certainly don't deserve the dick-sucking, he have very soft and small dick. so i will suck joshua's dick instead though he's still baby he have more impressive dick than wilder's
so what?? we're not talking ABOUT his reign, we're talking about his resume... Wlad has been past prime since 5 years ago but nobody beat him until fury, it is an impressive win though is very ugly.
if wilder the one who beat wlad i will said wilder the one who have impressive resume. and i have feeling you will say the same thing and you will not bringing up about wlad age to protect wilder's credibility.
is okay man, you got bias for black-american fighters. is no secret just embrace it, say it out loud "I LOVE BIG BLACK AMERICAN KOCK", BECAUSE HONESTLY EVRYBODY IN nsb ALREADY KNOW IT.
if you want to suck black dick, why didnt you just say so.....:twak:
queers these days....smh :twak:
....dude has snorted more 8 balls than make any type of title defense...he is one of the worst heavyweight champs of all time.... since he won the title....from a 40 year old wlad. his only good win...the rest are average, or horrible fighters and as a whole his resume is not impressive either...povetkins is better, too bad he is a cheat
so what?? we're not talking ABOUT his reign, we're talking about his resume... Wlad has been past prime since 5 years ago but nobody beat him until fury, it is an impressive win though is very ugly.
if wilder the one who beat wlad i will said wilder the one who have impressive resume. and i have feeling you will say the same thing and you will not bringing up about wlad age to protect wilder's credibility.
is okay man, you got bias for black-american fighters. is no secret just embrace it, say it out loud "I LOVE BIG BLACK AMERICAN KOCK", BECAUSE HONESTLY EVRYBODY IN nsb ALREADY KNOW IT.
:lol1: my first post also praise Joshua, isn't joshua black guy??
you got bias agenda because wilder is black-american
you wrote evrybody's resume sucks and i said is not, because fury's resume not suck since he took the undesputed title from wlad and if joshua manage to win against wlad he will have better resume than wilder. make sense isn't it??
....dude has snorted more 8 balls than make any type of title defense...he is one of the worst heavyweight champs of all time.... since he won the title....from a 40 year old wlad. his only good win...the rest are average, or horrible fighters and as a whole his resume is not impressive either...povetkins is better, too bad he is a cheat
The biggest white supremacists on this site...aren't even white!
That is mind boggling.
That "people of color" sh*t needs to go in the trash can.
You're the biggest white anglo worshipper here, actually. Always proud to represent their country
Why do black men make you insecure? Admittance is the first step to recovery
Why does a fighters race make you trash them, or give a tougher critique?
I never brought up race in this thread
You and considerthis exposes yourselves
Everybody's resume sucks but its just something you to have to hate about the black american fighters
If a black guy took your girl, if you're raising the child, or kicked your ASs....let it out....I'm here to help :-)
:lol1: my first post also praise Joshua, isn't joshua black guy??
you got bias agenda because wilder is black-american
you wrote evrybody's resume sucks and i said is not, because fury's resume not suck since he took the undesputed title from wlad and if joshua manage to win against wlad he will have better resume than wilder. make sense isn't it??
They think hating Blacks will get them accepted by those they worship.
well they are a product of their environment....asian countries like those in the caribbean, central america, etc got colonized, converted to christianity, and mirror western world culture. So its only natural that during the process of being brainwashed, and craving acceptance that they insult or feel a type of way about blacks. they were taught to think that way.....hate african descent and look up to europeans
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