Why Do People Pretend That Wilder Wasn't Signed to Fight the #2 HW in The World.....

Nice biased poll bro. It doesn't matter how close he might have been, it didn't happen. Period. You don't get courtesy wins for fights "almost happening". So another top fighter fears fighting Wilder on a level playing field. Who's fault is this?

On his own turf. In Russia. They said Wilder would duck Povetkin if Haymon lost the purse bid. That didn't happen. Povetkin's promoter won the bid, set the date in Russia, and Wilder was training overseas in preparation to make a title defense against a top heavyweight fighter. Unfortunately, Povetkin wasn't confident enough in his abilities and tried to get away with cheating instead of battling the Bronze Bomber on a level playing field. Instead, Wilder takes whatever he can get on short notice, injures himself in the fight, and suffers a setback. In his comeback fight, his opponent once again tests postive for PEDs resulting in another lower caliber short notice opponent. I agree Wilder needs to improve his resume. But fact of the matter is that he tried to but his opponent was a coward and needed "extra advantages". Nice biased poll bro. It doesn't matter how close he might have been, it didn't happen. Period. You don't get courtesy wins for fights "almost happening".

Guys are fighting for other orgs because Wilder presents no money. fighting on free tv in alabama pays nowhere near as much as fighting eachother on ppv in the UK etc etc If wilder ducked for the IBF, pulev would not have taken mando and deontay would have fought Joshua. Haymon wanted none of it so bought a lofty place in the WBC rankings from a bum fight and fought a nearly dead stiverne. Wilder was 2 and 3 in the WBA and WBO rankings in 2014, he couldve waited for mando to Klit.. he avoided it like the plague. A belt is as prestigious as the person wearing it makes it, that goes for every champion. if we're going by the level of opponents a champ faces in comparison to his (claimed) own level.. then parker and Joshua after their next fights blow wilder out the water until he steps up. :notworthy :notworthy Thank you. Wilder presents nothing to any of these higher tier fighters (Wlad, Fury, Joshua, Ortiz) and the fact is that Parker's team would outbid DiBella if they went to a purse bid and the fight would be in New Zealand.

Ortiz is mando for the WBA super, but gets the IBF and IBO aswell i imagine if he beats the klit/aj winner. Hearn will swerve him to Wilder to try and get the WBC knowing he can set up an internal stable megafight. Imagine how much he rakes in if 3 of the 4 major belts are on the line in a fight between two of his fighters. crazy

Ortiz is a funny case, he's sitting pretty with a direct title shot IBF mandatory with the AJ/Klitschko winner but instead he'd skip that to fight an WBC eliminator to get a title shot. How is that in Ortiz's best interest? I doubt anybody thinks Eddie Hearn has Ortiz's best interests at heart. He wants to send Ortiz over to Wilder like an attack dog and Ortiz is willing to play the part. If Ortiz believes he can beat anybody then it doesn't matter which strap he gets a shot at If Wilder can't get a unification fight this year then Ortiz, Haye and maybe Ruiz Jr are the only other credible opponents for him, and he desperately needs to fight someone credible ASAP

First of all, you're lying about how long he's had the belt. Second of all, his defenses have been just as strong as any other current heavyweight champion. So you picking on Wilder is a #doublestandard. Just because you say "forget Povetkin" doesn't mean we should. Why should we forget facts, logic and reason? Wilder has been champion 2 years. During that time, he agreed to fight the #1 fighter in enemy territory. Not his fault he cheated. In that time, he's had numerous injuries. And yet he's still managed to schedule several defenses against top 20 guys in the IBO computerized rankings. Not his fault the top guys are fighting for other organizations. If they viewed Wilder as easy pickings, they'd be lining up to fight him. It's common sense. If he's mandated to fight Ortiz, he'll fight Ortiz. Wilder hasn't ducked anybody and is currently negotiating a unification fight for the Summer. If he didn't duck Povetkin after losing the purse bid, when he could have easily ditched the belt and fought Martin for the IBF, he's not going to duck anybody. 25 months, not 26. wow joshua - 2 defenses, 1 moneygrab, 1 reschedule from wba not sanctioning klit quick enough. Parker - no defenses Wilder - 2 year champ , not faced a top 10 until now. Did not agree, was mandated. wouldnt drop the belt for reasons explained shortly. Haymon purse bid was also 5 million, you know damn well the 7 mil bid was by the russian for home advantage, not due to wbc prestige. stop being misleading. Guys are fighting for other orgs because Wilder presents no money. fighting on free tv in alabama pays nowhere near as much as fighting eachother on ppv in the UK etc etc If wilder ducked for the IBF, pulev would not have taken mando and deontay would have fought Joshua. Haymon wanted none of it so bought a lofty place in the WBC rankings from a bum fight and fought a nearly dead stiverne. Wilder was 2 and 3 in the WBA and WBO rankings in 2014, he couldve waited for mando to Klit.. he avoided it like the plague. A belt is as prestigious as the person wearing it makes it, that goes for every champion. if we're going by the level of opponents a champ faces in comparison to his (claimed) own level.. then parker and Joshua after their next fights blow wilder out the water until he steps up. P.S.. wilder wants none of Ortiz if he's his mando, expect him to seek unification out of the weakest other champ if the old man gets #1 spot

Wilder was likely chasing the Fury/Klitschko II winner, that's why there was "pressure" to get a fight in by July. The timing of the fight was tricky as it is to be close enough so the Fury/Klitschko winner couldn't find another opponent quick enough. Wilder getting injured was a setback in more ways than one. Fury/Klitschko II then got postponed and then canceled. The injury allowed AJ to get in a voluntary without anybody giving him **** for it. Ortiz is a funny case, he's sitting pretty with a direct title shot IBF mandatory with the AJ/Klitschko winner but instead he'd skip that to fight an WBC eliminator to get a title shot. How is that in Ortiz's best interest? I doubt anybody thinks Eddie Hearn has Ortiz's best interests at heart. He wants to send Ortiz over to Wilder like an attack dog and Ortiz is willing to play the part.

Wow the poll is neck and neck. This is really providing clarity on this topic.

The WBC title has lost its rep over the past couple of years. Stiverne managed to win the title when it was vacant against a guy that he already beat a year before in Arreola. As far as I'm concerned, the WBC title and WBO title are even currently. WBC seems to be the best belt to have if you're not in a hurry to face any challenges.... look at Stevenson and Wilder for example.

Thank you for your opinion, but it still doesn't make sense to trash Wilder's resume over the others when the consensus is that Stiverne is a better win. Stiverne was TBRB #3 when Wilder beat him. Ruiz was unranked when Parker beat him. The random opinion of some random dude on the internet about the skill level of Ruiz should not trump the consensus of the world's leading experts. The WBC is, by far, the most prestigious heavyweight title. The WBO is, by far, the least prestigious heavyweight title. Stiverne managed to win the top title. Ruiz failed in his bid to win the bottom title. There's no logical reason to believe Ruiz is deserving of more credit than Stiverne earned at his peak. Stiverne got his WBC title, and his high ranking, for beating Arreola twice. Seriously mate, winning the WBC title by beating Arreola is all Stiverne has ever done! Arreola turned out to be shot to hell, and was never all that good anyway, tbh. Just tell me what you think Stiverne has done to justify the way you're hyping him here?

Dude has had the belt 26 months yet has yet to face an opponent worthwhile. He could have took a tough fight durin any of that time, the question is why won't he ? Forget Povetkin. What happens when Ortiz is mandated and a Russian super freak don't put down an excessive amount does he go through with it ?

The WBC is, by far, the most prestigious heavyweight title. The WBO is, by far, the least prestigious heavyweight title. Stiverne managed to win the top title. Ruiz failed in his bid to win the bottom title. There's no logical reason to believe Ruiz is deserving of more credit than Stiverne earned at his peak. The WBC title has lost its rep over the past couple of years. Stiverne managed to win the title when it was vacant against a guy that he already beat a year before in Arreola. As far as I'm concerned, the WBC title and WBO title are even currently.

I'll give him props if he fights someone properly ranked after this fight because of his injury. Dillian Whyte or Luis Ortiz or a uni, thats it. Good luck with that happening, buddy

Wilder and AJ's resumes are about equal, I would say, but AJ has far less experience than Wilder. Wilder's best win is Stiverne. The same Stiverne who lucked out by getting a WBC title shot for beating an overweight, punched out Arreola ... then won the title by beating that same overweight, punched out journeyman for a second time! I would class Brezeale and possibly Martin as both at least as good as Stiverne. And Joe Parker has beaten Andy Ruiz, who I would say is better than anybody Wilder has been in with. I don't blame Wilder for the Povetkin fight not happening though, and I happen to think that Washington is an acceptable opponent for a champion coming back from quite major arm and hand surgery. At least Bermane Stiverne and Deontay beat a top ten opponent for a title oh yeah I forgot Tyson Fury possibly under PEDs barely knicked a win over old Klitsckho. Let see was Charles Martin top ten ( Juice ) ? was Andy Ruiz a top ten ( Parker )? NO...it seems anything related to Wilder is trash in your eyes...and you talk about Arreola being punch drunk like four years ago?! I seen two good HW scraps I dont know what you been watching -- if that.

I think Whyte, Breazeale and Martin would all get beat by Johann Duahaupus~ I think he has beat better fighters than all those guys too.

Wilder and AJ's resumes are about equal, I would say, but AJ has far less experience than Wilder. Wilder's best win is Stiverne. The same Stiverne who lucked out by getting a WBC title shot for beating an overweight, punched out Arreola ... then won the title by beating that same overweight, punched out journeyman for a second time! I would class Brezeale and possibly Martin as both at least as good as Stiverne. And Joe Parker has beaten Andy Ruiz, who I would say is better than anybody Wilder has been in with. I don't blame Wilder for the Povetkin fight not happening though, and I happen to think that Washington is an acceptable opponent for a champion coming back from quite major arm and hand surgery. Green K for the intelligent posts from true boxing fans. Cheers mate! And looking at my post again, I see I didn't mention Dillian Whyte as being a name on AJ's resume as good as any on Wilder's .. imo. Can't believe I forgot about Dillian.

Wilder resume ia weak but it wasnt his fault the russian cheated. I just hope after this tune up he fights a good fighter Wilder and AJ's resumes are about equal, I would say, but AJ has far less experience than Wilder. Wilder's best win is Stiverne. The same Stiverne who lucked out by getting a WBC title shot for beating an overweight, punched out Arreola ... then won the title by beating that same overweight, punched out journeyman for a second time! I would class Brezeale and possibly Martin as both at least as good as Stiverne. And Joe Parker has beaten Andy Ruiz, who I would say is better than anybody Wilder has been in with. I don't blame Wilder for the Povetkin fight not happening though, and I happen to think that Washington is an acceptable opponent for a champion coming back from quite major arm and hand surgery. Green K for the intelligent posts from true boxing fans.

Klitschko is irrelevant. He hasn't fought him yet. They both fought Molina, but Wilder fought him first. Joshua's best win is Martin. Martin was TBRB #9 when Joshua beat him. Wilder's best win is Stiverne. Stiverne was TBRB #3 when Wilder beat him. The Duhaupas win is just as impressive as the Martin win. Duhaupas was in the TBRB top ten a lot longer than Martin. Wilder has the better resume. I don't say that as a criticism of Joshua at all. I'm saying that as a criticism of the idiot trolls that treat Wilder with a double standard. If Wilder and Joshua keep winning, they will fight. May the best man win. Wilder and AJ's resumes are about equal, I would say, but AJ has far less experience than Wilder. Wilder's best win is Stiverne. The same Stiverne who lucked out by getting a WBC title shot for beating an overweight, punched out Arreola ... then won the title by beating that same overweight, punched out journeyman for a second time! I would class Brezeale and possibly Martin as both at least as good as Stiverne. And Joe Parker has beaten Andy Ruiz, who I would say is better than anybody Wilder has been in with. I don't blame Wilder for the Povetkin fight not happening though, and I happen to think that Washington is an acceptable opponent for a champion coming back from quite major arm and hand surgery.

Wilder resume ia weak but it wasnt his fault the russian cheated. I just hope after this tune up he fights a good fighter

Fury fought Klitschko in his 25th fight. :thinking: But nice projecting. Let's not compare that bum Wilder to someone who actually had the balls to go to the champions backyard and beat him for the belt. That was like 2 years ago what is he doing now, I barely remember what he looks like. At least Wilder fights on a regular basis, so I can actually enjoy him not just live in the past~