Can't really say, both fought decent opposition and been champs at 2 weight divisions as pros, Lomachenko had by far the better amateur career (one of the best of all times if not the best considering his age) but judging by the eye test I think Crawford is the more complete pro, but only time will tell, they both still have a lot to go out there and prove and they can still improve as fighters because they're young.
Floyd @ 130 was a higher calibre fighter than loma. Sorry. Go watch his fights.
I've watched all PBF fights and his 130 fights (Ndou, Cast, Chop-chop) are my favourite, but Floyd never met fighter as skillful and intelligent in the ring as Loma. Obviously mu judgement is based more on Lomas amateur career, he didn't make a proper argument in pros yet. And I doubt he would, simply doesn't have p4p caliber guys around him – Garcia and Bud, that's basically it. Rigo is small and old, Gamboa is shot.
You think Floyd would beat Salido in his second fight...?
How dense are you, boy.
Why not....he had over 90 amateur fights and sparred top pros.
Also he is better inside, taller, quicker feet, more power @ 130
Pbf would have beat the dog shyt out of salido. Everybody that tried that rough stuff got stopped. Corrales, Chavez, Hernandez
Floyd @ 130 was a higher calibre fighter than loma. Sorry. Go watch his fights.
I do keep it real. I just don't go overboard with the accomplishments. He gets put on the P4P for something that isn't that great. Crawford has like 30 fights and his best win is Postol and Gamboa who didn't beling at that weight. Look at Floyd, by his 25th fight he already had guys like Corrales and Hernandez. A couple of fights later, the Castillo rematch win. As much as I like bringing his stans down, Floyd earned his P4P rank unlike most in boxing today.
DLH by his 25 or so fight, he already beat the P4P #2 guy in the world. Plus others prior to that.
Who do you think would have a better chance to beat Floyd? Crawford or Lomenchencko?
No you don't. No reason to throw that lie in this lol. Just keep it real.
I do keep it real. I just don't go overboard with the accomplishments. He gets put on the P4P for something that isn't that great. Crawford has like 30 fights and his best win is Postol and Gamboa who didn't beling at that weight. Look at Floyd, by his 25th fight he already had guys like Corrales and Hernandez. A couple of fights later, the Castillo rematch win. As much as I like bringing his stans down, Floyd earned his P4P rank unlike most in boxing today.
DLH by his 25 or so fight, he already beat the P4P #2 guy in the world. Plus others prior to that.
Loma and it's not even close.
Crawford who I like is overrated n over-hyped. Another Spence. I'd love to see Crawford vs Broner.
No you don't. No reason to throw that lie in this lol. Just keep it real.
Salido was his second goddamn fight. Floyd f*cking Mayweather wouldn't beat Orlando Salido in his second fight. That's a hard, hard task for the best of pros.
Even with him losing to Salido a lot of things were against him, but I still believe he deserved to get the nod over Salido with his more cleaner effective work.
I disagree with you saying, "Floyd f*cking Mayweather wouldn't beat Orlando Salido in his second fight." Floyd would beat him, because he wouldn't be fighting 12 rounds in his second professional bout.
Everybody has their own list. It's just opinion until they fight so there are really no right or wrong answers.. People get it mixed up with resume. Resume is what a boxer has already done. PFP is how good you think a boxer is for his size and what you think he is capable of. I think Loma is much better than Crawford PFP. If they were the same exact fighting weight I believe Loma would knock Crawford out. I am sure many disagree but they have their own list and I have mine.
They are both genuine A plus level fighters. When I envision boxing as a beautiful art of violence they are the two fighters I think of. It's a joy to watch them in action.
Salido was his second goddamn fight. Floyd f*cking Mayweather wouldn't beat Orlando Salido in his second fight. That's a hard, hard task for the best of pros.
If floyd stayed an amateur til he was 25? He probably would have
Skill for skill, maybe Loma. In terms of professional accomplishminets, definitley Crawford. Who do I think will have the better career? I'm going with Crawford because he's more marketable and he is driven to make money.
.......you mad?
Once fights are signed, excuses go out the window.
Whose to say Floyd wouldn't n why'd you bring him up?
Loma is very talented but once in a generation fighter Is a bit much. He is a great talent though
He still has less than ten fights and is fighting world class guys, I'd like to see how he deals with a rough guy before anointing him an atg
You think Floyd would beat Salido in his second fight...?
How dense are you, boy.
Salido was his second goddamn fight. Floyd f*cking Mayweather wouldn't beat Orlando Salido in his second fight. That's a hard, hard task for the best of pros.
.......you mad?
Once fights are signed, excuses go out the window.
Whose to say Floyd wouldn't n why'd you bring him up?
Loma is very talented but once in a generation fighter Is a bit much. He is a great talent though
He still has less than ten fights and is fighting world class guys, I'd like to see how he deals with a rough guy before anointing him an atg
i'd pick lomachenko to beat crawford if they were the same size. that's a real p4p list in my opinion, but i understand that it is also the ultimate abstraction.
i have no issues with people saying that crawford has better wins. i just think that lomachenko has better skills and talents. he has more "ability." in that respect i'm honestly starting to think he's the best fighter in the world right now.
i think lomachenko can be a once in a generation type of fighter. i don't see that with crawford. very talented, but not a truly special talent. lomachenko is a special talent. the guy has footspeed and combinations that put him basically in his own class right now. power, too.
lomachenko.
crawford has a wider resume but lomas win against walters tops anything terrence has done. granted crawford is lineal champ and undefeated, but even with that going for him the ability of loma still carries it for me.
he is just better imo. i could see an argument for crawford based on being lineal champ and his complete body of work. but loma is just a different kind of special imo. a true boxing genius.
I do think Loma is more talented & skilled. But Bud has the better resume if only bc of Loma's loss.
I do think that Loma has learned a lot since that loss. If current Loma faced a prime Salido, I'd favor Loma wide. But a loss is a loss -- I cant just ignore it.
Loma's best wins -- Russell & Axeman, maybe Martinez (in 2 divisions), are better than Bud's best wins, Gamboa & Postol (also 2 divisions) -- but that loss still.
So for now I have Bud at #5 & Loma at #6. Hope each dude has some serious challenges, that could revise my p4p. Sosa isn't a huge challenge, but hed be another good win at 130.
To me, Lomachenko has the 2 best wins if you look at their resume head to head. The wins over Walters and Russell, to me are better than a featherweight Gamboa and Viktor Postol.
Now if were talking skill level, I'd pick Lomachenko any day of the week. His footwork is the best in boxing, his range is fantastic, he's an excellent defender and he can be excellent at defense while moving forward.
Sure Lomachenko lost to Salido in his second pro fight. But I don't know many featherweights in history that could beat Salido when he purposely misses weight and gets away with throwing about 100 low blows all night.