Is going with al haymon career suicide?

mitchell, you have some good points, but i think jacobs is a live dog and GGG not having a rematch clause would worry me. if he loses that fight, he's totally screwed. if wilder loses to joshua, he'll have the political clout to get a rematch, other title shots, etc. Jacobs is a live dog for sure, but with risk comes potential reward. If Golovkin wins, he solidifies his place atop the middleweight division, increases the public demand for Canelo to fight him and could also increases his asking price for that fight. Plus, I don't know that HBO will just drop him if he loses...depending on what happened in the ring, there could still be fights available...like perhaps a Gilberto Ramirez fight or something along those lines.

Luis Collazo signed with Haymon in 2014. Since then he's had 5 fights. 4 of those 5 fights were headline fights against Victor Ortiz,Amir Khan,Keith Thurman & Sammy Vasquez. Also,every single big fight scheduled for the first 6 months of this year features a Haymon fighter except for the Joshua vs Klitschko fight Jack vs Degale Frampton vs Santa Cruz Broner vs Granados GGG vs Jacobs Brook vs Spence Canelo vs Chavez jr Thurman vs Garcia

And almost none of those fighters get public exposure. They're promoted very poorly because haymon only works with ****ty promoters. How much do you hear these fighters earn though? 6-7 digits for all of them. So the question still goes back to, how is this career suicide? Belt+money? Lol, they're prizefighters. To them that's success.

Career suicide? How many Haymon-advised fighters are current major title holders? Leo Santa Cruz Danny Garcia Deontay Wilder Keith Thurman James DeGale Lee Selby Erislandy Lara Gervonta Davis Adrien Broner Jermell Charlo Jermall Charlo Danny Jacobs Rances Barthelemey Abner Mares Gary Russell Jr Robert Easter Jr This is just a list of Haymon fighters I know are champs right now. You also have to take into account fighters who have fought for a title (got the opportunity), fighters who just had a title recently (Frampton, Fortuna, Jonathan Guzman) and fighters who are scheduled to fight for a major title. If you are a good or even decent fighter, you should be holding a title if you are advised by Haymon. Not career suicide, it's the opposite. And almost none of those fighters get public exposure. They're promoted very poorly because haymon only works with ****ty promoters.

If you had the chance to pick up the rights to a single fighter, would you rather have the contract for Gennady Golovkin or would you rather have the contract for Deontay Wilder? Golovkin's been pushed like heck on HBO, but you can't tell me that you wouldn't take having the possible undisputed heavyweight champion under contract. I think I would take Golovkin. Reason being is he probably has a bigger money in front of him (against Canelo) than Wilder does (against Joshua)...and I think Golovkin would be seen as having a better chance of beating Canelo than Wilder would against Joshua. Golovkin has some work to do to get to a Canelo fight, and still has some negotiations his camp would have....but he's favored to beat Jacobs and a strong showing could significantly enhance his negotiating strength.

Career suicide? How many Haymon-advised fighters are current major title holders? Leo Santa Cruz Danny Garcia Deontay Wilder Keith Thurman James DeGale Lee Selby Erislandy Lara Gervonta Davis Adrien Broner Jermell Charlo Jermall Charlo Danny Jacobs Rances Barthelemey Abner Mares Gary Russell Jr Robert Easter Jr This is just a list of Haymon fighters I know are champs right now. You also have to take into account fighters who have fought for a title (got the opportunity), fighters who just had a title recently (Frampton, Fortuna, Jonathan Guzman) and fighters who are scheduled to fight for a major title. If you are a good or even decent fighter, you should be holding a title if you are advised by Haymon. Not career suicide, it's the opposite.

The most telling thing is I don't think any PBC fighters are on any P4P lists. Maybe if they fought more often and better fighters, they'd make the list and and build hall of fame credentials. What fighter now at PBC you think has hall of fame credentials based on fights they've had under the PBC banner? Haymon is bringing his guys along, and fair lists will have his fighters on their in due time; Mikey Garcia, the Thurman-Garcia winner (both should be on/on the cusp of such a list imo), Stevenson, Jermall Charlo, the winner of Frampton/Santa Cruz III, etc should all be in consideration, tbh. The bias against PBC can't stand forever.

The only stars in boxing are Mayweather, Pacquiao, and Canelo. GGG is more known than Haymon fighters. I wouldn't necessarily say Gonzalez, Ward, and Crawford are more known than Thurman, Garcia, and Porter. If it weren't for Haymon we wouldn't even know most of the fighters in his stable. Where would these fighters be fighting if not for Haymon? If you had the chance to pick up the rights to a single fighter, would you rather have the contract for Gennady Golovkin or would you rather have the contract for Deontay Wilder? Golovkin's been pushed like heck on HBO, but you can't tell me that you wouldn't take having the possible undisputed heavyweight champion under contract.

Signing with 50cent or don king is career suicide.. Signing with al haymon is not that bad

They're okay with fighting once a year, I think.

You're a one man minstrel show. It's so easy to hurt you 😂

You're a 95 pound Filipino tranny. You lose again. Lmao he's a circus clown

Lots of haymon fighters are doing well such as berto porter thurman Garcia charlos , I know you don't like al but he gets guys payed.

The most telling thing is I don't think any PBC fighters are on any P4P lists. Maybe if they fought more often and better fighters, they'd make the list and and build hall of fame credentials. What fighter now at PBC you think has hall of fame credentials based on fights they've had under the PBC banner?

You can't call it career suicide if they like it that way. Most of them signed up for the money. But now resources are getting depleted and things are not doing well for them.

http://i.imgur.com/8cUMaI8.jpg lol..its the Klitschkos company....GGG is it?

Let's face the facts. The top stars and money makers either come from K2, Top rank, or golden boy. Every one of al haymon's fighters hardly get promoted at all. Casuals hardly know any haymon fighters. How can you even shape your fingers to type some BS like that?

if u want to fight maybe once a year on bounce tv then yeah, sign up with haymon

If I were a pro boxer I wouldn't sign with Haymon. He advises and or manages about 300 boxers so how much of his time can he give me? If he advises other boxers I might fight then who's side is he on when making a fight between one of his other fighters and I? I would want to be managed by someone who is 100% on my side.

Let's face the facts. The top stars and money makers either come from K2, Top rank, or golden boy. Every one of al haymon's fighters hardly get promoted at all. Casuals hardly know any haymon fighters. Haymon has all of the fighters. If I was a fighter, I would sign with whoever has the most fighters at or around my weight class. Everyone wont become a star. Just do it for the legacy and the paychecks. And these fighters are decently paid, so just focus on building a great resume.