Why doesn't he lift weights? I wanna see him squating, deadlifting, doing pull ups, shoulder press, bench press.
He needs to hire a modern strenght and conditioning coach.
Do you agree? times when fighters didn't to weight lifting are counted... unless you are on roids you NEED those exercises to build the strength.
He's doing these things like Jack Dempsey man...
https://fb-s-b-a.akamaihd.net/h-ak-xlp1/v/t1.0-9/16602794_682732805233167_8876238624815875300_n.jpg?oh=f412541c89388bf06bcd45a13df73f4c&oe=593E6AAD&__gda__=1497755964_f89e5bb5847d976011eff33895a1dce2
Come on..
Whatever GGG is or isnt doing, it seems to be working fine for him. Im more of the old school mentality though that weight training doesnt really help a fighter
I noticed a change in the training method between the Brook fight and the Jacobs fight. Seems like he was on purpose lighter vs Brook and now is trying to be a little bit more muscular.
In the 24/7 episode you can see him doing at least two kind of pull ups. I hadn't seen him doing pull ups ever.
Watch the videos....do it.
I'm not saying he should do weight lifting 4-5 times a week. I'm talking about some squats/deadlifts/benchpress/shoulderpress/barbellrow_or_pullups two times a week, with normal weight, not high and just 2 or 3 sets max per exercise, low reps.
I think that's enough to help him create more strength now that he's older and he needs to change the way he trains. I'm saying he needs to add a little of that to what he already does. He's not on steroids. He doesn't have that help that others at his age did have so he needs that work.
My opinion.
Did you see GGG vs Brook? Brook lifts a lot of weights (as a welter or middleweight). He was faster and at some point seemed stronger than GGG. MANY boxers do weight lifting. I'm talking about world champions... you have a very old schooled mind. The world has changed.
When this guy is asked how does the dumbell press help boxers in the first video he doesn't know what to say. He is stuttering and looking clueless.
The one who's yet to present one argument is you. Weight lifting is used by most boxers. Or at least a big % of them.
There is no argument to present. Golovkin is having success with whatever he's doing at the moment.
If he was 36 fights deep with 17 losses and clearly you could see some physical presence would benefit him then yes, you'd have a case, but currently whatever he's doing is not a broken training method. TBH I'm not even sure if he does or doesn't lift weights, his forearms are pretty big. He obviously does form of resistance training, is it the type you're referring to with squats and deadlifts? I don't know. But I'm replying assuming your intel is correct that he doesn't perform these, but again, based on his undefeated record and how strong he physically looks usually within the ring then the real question is, does he really need to?
One thing I do know though, lifting weights is a bigger risk for a training injury, that could be a reason GGG doesn't perform them if he doesn't, and to be honest that would make sense.
You don't know what the f*ck you are talking about. You came out of 1920 it seems. Sorry bud, we are on the 21st century and most fighters do weight lifting.
I'm so sorry sir, you don't know what you are talking about. None of my fighters use weights, with the exception of dumbells while shadow boxing.
From your link:
I'm tired of discussing with stupid people. I never said boxers should train like bodybuilders or powerlifters.
Read the end of that article... the man itself admits a lot of people disagree with him.
Its the man's point of view and he clearly is more reliable then the idiot in the video you keep alluring to. Plus your only arguing half of my point. 2 undefeated fighters that don't do weight training clearly out weigh any foolish opinion you have moron.
Only sheep and lemmings get misinformed, i form my own ideas from research/study and anecdotal evidence. (And i have made another post comparing dead-lifts and squats, which further proves how much of a nonsense exercise dead-lifts are!)......if you want to do them? knock yourself out, but the squat is by far superior.
Thank you & it's much cheaper no equipment needed. Again thanks for your post!
Deadlifts and squats improve total body strength. Now ask yourself this question what are the negatives in having a stronger athlete? There is NONE. A stronger athlete is always preferred over a weaker athlete.
Hmmm...George Foreman was waaaay stronger than Ali....I'd rather have the more flexible fighter who is more allusive. Remember boxing is not a toughman/strongman contest. While yes I 'd like to have a strong boxer. I do have a mexican fighter that he has crazy power in both hands, but i'm not training him to be strong, instead i'm having him work more on technique & defense. The only weights he touches are the dumbells while shadow boxing that is it. I have my own technique to improve his strength & this was taught to me by my trainer, who was taught by his trainer Jimmy Glenn (owner of the former Time Square boxing Gym) This is traditional & cultural... A lot of strong fighters depend too much on their strength & power & this leads for them to get reckless with their defense. But I understand your way of thinking, it's just that I prefer allusiveness & stamina, endurance against the stronger fighter anytime.
This is so far from the truth its not even funny. Deadlifts are one of the BEST exercises for total body strength. You only get injured using incorrect technique or trying to use way too much weight. Sir you are very misinformed.
Hmmm...George Foreman was waaaay stronger than Ali....I'd rather have the more flexible fighter who is more allusive. Remember boxing is not a toughman/strongman contest. While yes I 'd like to have a strong boxer. I do have a mexican fighter that he has crazy power in both hands, but i'm not training him to be strong, instead i'm having him work more on technique & defense. The only weights he touches are the dumbells while shadow boxing that is it. I have my own technique to improve his strength & this was taught to me by my trainer, who was taught by his trainer Jimmy Glenn (owner of the former Time Square boxing Gym) This is traditional & cultural... A lot of strong fighters depend too much on their strength & power & this leads for them to get reckless with their defense. But I understand your way of thinking, it's just that I prefer allusiveness & stamina, endurance against the stronger fighter anytime.
Hmmm...George Foreman was waaaay stronger than Ali....I'd rather have the more flexible fighter who is more allusive. Remember boxing is not a toughman/strongman contest. While yes I 'd like to have a strong boxer. I do have a mexican fighter that he has crazy power in both hands, but i'm not training him to be strong, instead i'm having him work more on technique & defense. The only eights he touches are the dumbells while shadow boxing that is it. I have my own technique to improve his strength & this was taught to me by my trainer, who was taught by his trainer Jimmy Glenn (owner of the former Time Square boxing Gym) This is traditional & cultural... A lot of strong fighters depend too much on their strength & power & this leads for them to get reckless with their defense. But I understand your way of thinking, it's just that I prefer allusiveness & stamina, endurance against the stronger fighter anytime.
If you think I'm going to watch some dude on a home camera tell me how to train your out of your mind. If I was going to make an instructional video and post it online I would at least rent some quality equipment.
https://www.muscleprodigy.com/floyd-mayweather-workout/
Since you got it all figured out here is another fighter with a 0 loss record no weight lifting in his routine.
http://www.expertboxing.com/boxing-training/boxing-workouts/why-lifting-weights-wont-increase-punching-power
Again read up on Fast twitch vs Slow Twitch muscle fibers there is a science to this.
From your link:
Is it IMPOSSIBLE to Lift Weights for Boxing?
I’m not saying you can’t ever lift weights for boxing.
I’m only saying: “lifting heavy weights will not increase punching power”.
There are dozens of great uses for weights. There are nice exercises for targeting different muscle groups. You can build your support muscles with small dumbbells. You can work on specific muscle groups that are otherwise difficult to target with calisthenics (bodyweight exercises).
The key to any effective exercise, weightlifting or not, is to develop functional boxing conditioning.
I'm tired of discussing with stupid people. I never said boxers should train like bodybuilders or powerlifters.
Read the end of that article... the man itself admits a lot of people disagree with him.
Watch the videos....do it.
I'm not saying he should do weight lifting 4-5 times a week. I'm talking about some squats/deadlifts/benchpress/shoulderpress/barbellrow_or_pullups two times a week, with normal weight, not high and just 2 or 3 sets max per exercise, low reps.
I think that's enough to help him create more strength now that he's older and he needs to change the way he trains. I'm saying he needs to add a little of that to what he already does. He's not on steroids. He doesn't have that help that others at his age did have so he needs that work.
My opinion.
Did you see GGG vs Brook? Brook lifts a lot of weights (as a welter or middleweight). He was faster and at some point seemed stronger than GGG. MANY boxers do weight lifting. I'm talking about world champions... you have a very old schooled mind. The world has changed.
If you think I'm going to watch some dude on a home camera tell me how to train your out of your mind. If I was going to make an instructional video and post it online I would at least rent some quality equipment.
https://www.muscleprodigy.com/floyd-mayweather-workout/
Since you got it all figured out here is another fighter with a 0 loss record no weight lifting in his routine.
http://www.expertboxing.com/boxing-training/boxing-workouts/why-lifting-weights-wont-increase-punching-power
Again read up on Fast twitch vs Slow Twitch muscle fibers there is a science to this.
Gamboa's trainer: http://www.boxingnewsonline.net/functional-strength-training-for-boxers/
What are good results in predictor lifts? If you want to aim for the highest level, consider my fighter Yuriorkis Gamboa, 2004 flyweight Olympic champion, WBA (2009-2014) and IBF (2010-2014) super featherweight world champion. I progressed Gamboa to the level where he could perform chin-ups with 41 kilos (90 lbs) attached to his waist and could incline bench press 120 kilos (264 lbs) for 2 reps.
Training frequency refers to how often workouts are performed. Most of my fighters lift weights four times a week, with each workout lasting about an hour (including warm-up). Any more than that is difficult for a boxer to recover from and can easily result in a state of overtraining that can lead to injury and illness.
But weights are bad doe....
Danny Garcia also does weight lifting
http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m538/EbayBuyer101/get-attachment_zps886fb510.jpeg~original
Kell Brook:
https://goo.gl/HuPXbO
Different things work for different people. The key is for the people around the fighter to build the system that works for them. It is going to take a lot more then your simple google searches for you take a stance on what Golovkin should or shouldn't be doing. GGG's trainer has spent a life time developing a training system that has developed a young man into the recognized middle weight champion of the world.
I've worked out my entire life and been in and out of a boxing gym since I was a kid. When I lift weights if I do high weight low reps I bulk up. It takes more muscle to push higher weight. So if you trying to push 300 lbs and you weigh 180 after awhile your body is going to increase its muscle mass to reduce the strain on the body. If you don't increase your caloric intake to compensate for the extra burn of calories then you will pass out during your work out. If you find the perfect balance you will end up being more lien and heavily muscled. The extra muscle will slow you down. Low weight high reps is more in tune with boxing as your training your muscles more for enduring a weight for a longer period of time.
Boxing is more then just having a super big bench press.
Do a search on slow twitch and fast twitch muscle fibers and you'll start to get an idea of what kind of exercise a boxer should be doing. Don't go off the word of some dude on youtube. Actually figure out the science then I'll give you some credit for doing your research.
Watch the videos....do it.
I'm not saying he should do weight lifting 4-5 times a week. I'm talking about some squats/deadlifts/benchpress/shoulderpress/barbellrow_or_pullups two times a week, with normal weight, not high and just 2 or 3 sets max per exercise, low reps.
I think that's enough to help him create more strength now that he's older and he needs to change the way he trains. I'm saying he needs to add a little of that to what he already does. He's not on steroids. He doesn't have that help that others at his age did have so he needs that work.
My opinion.
Did you see GGG vs Brook? Brook lifts a lot of weights (as a welter or middleweight). He was faster and at some point seemed stronger than GGG. MANY boxers do weight lifting. I'm talking about world champions... you have a very old schooled mind. The world has changed.
So the key is training like Golovkin? every fighter should do that and they'll be ATGs?
Different things work for different people. The key is for the people around the fighter to build the system that works for them. It is going to take a lot more then your simple google searches for you take a stance on what Golovkin should or shouldn't be doing. GGG's trainer has spent a life time developing a training system that has developed a young man into the recognized middle weight champion of the world.
I've worked out my entire life and been in and out of a boxing gym since I was a kid. When I lift weights if I do high weight low reps I bulk up. It takes more muscle to push higher weight. So if you trying to push 300 lbs and you weigh 180 after awhile your body is going to increase its muscle mass to reduce the strain on the body. If you don't increase your caloric intake to compensate for the extra burn of calories then you will pass out during your work out. If you find the perfect balance you will end up being more lien and heavily muscled. The extra muscle will slow you down. Low weight high reps is more in tune with boxing as your training your muscles more for enduring a weight for a longer period of time.
Boxing is more then just having a super big bench press.
Do a search on slow twitch and fast twitch muscle fibers and you'll start to get an idea of what kind of exercise a boxer should be doing. Don't go off the word of some dude on youtube. Actually figure out the science then I'll give you some credit for doing your research.
Oh also lifting heavy weight in any and all of those exercises can lead to injury. Not something I'm sure his trainer is willing to risk when there are better exercises to do to build strength.