Really? He might have been winning the fight up until then and landing more punches but it was pretty clear that Hammer was able to get inside rather easily and when he did Price had no idea what to do. It was looking pretty grim for him IMO, even before he started to gas.
The knockdown he got was somewhat lucky because he was about to get sparked out then.
The only thing he has going for him is power because he's unable to use his length and his jab is terrible.
When Hammer was looking to get inside, Price was able to "walk him through a bad neighborhood" on his way in and do a good job of tying things up when it got to the inside; Price got tagged when he was a touch lazy with his defense on the inside, but it's not like he was getting bombed on.
Calling Price's jab "terrible" is a bit much.
Can Dave bounce back. I believe he's one of the best out there just needs more experience
This post just shows how much knowledge you genuinely don't have regarding the sport, folk were saying Price won't amount to anything before his first loss against Thompson.
You truly have no shame whatsoever do you. Can I ask you a genuine question, do you take medication for brain disease ? mclovin told me you do.
David Price is like a cross between Audley Harrison and Enzo Maccarinelli. His latest trainer, Dave Caldwell, hasn't done anything to address the stamina issues and it's apparent now he's also mentally weak. It's the mental weakness which has likely written him off. He needs to go 10 or 12 rounds against a few opponents who are durable but have no chance of actually winning. You can't throw him into fights were he's going to have to work every round for a full 12 when he has stamina issues.
Didn't this guy (Price's trainer) try some things with David? Like having him put on more weight so his chin was better? and getting him to settle down on his punches more? fight more efficiently?
I mean sometimes you do have to try a few things... I thought this guy was doing that. I guess if I was tasked with Price I would have him watch the Gypsy King. Instead of squaring up perpetually, teaching him mobility. All these fighters today, especially the Brits, are in love with that squared up orthodox, limited mobility way of doing things. Very similar to amateur fighting, no angles, no deceptive fighting lines, etc.
Would it kill Price to watch David Haye and the Gypsy King? Haye actually has pretty bad stamina as well. He is an ambush fighter and he stays away from his man until he launches an attack. Yes he has fast feet... But Price could compensate for foot speed with angles.
And Fury who also has better mobility, could also be a model for Price. David needs to do like the Gypsy King and get on his toes, fight off the back foot, use his jab and throw feints to keep his opponent honest. There is nothing extraordinarily bad about Price...that a fighter like Martin for example, has conquered. All these guys are immobile, squared up, targets.
If Price simply fought off the back leg it would help him immensely! Add to that using feints, footwork and a jab and he could protect that chin of his.
Yeah man, he was just a scissors who got put in with a rock.
But he would take Luis Ortiz to school. Styles make fights.
if Ortiz was 12 years old and Price was the school driver, maybe. In a ring? Ortiz kills that *****.
Scary thing is had he gotten past Hammer I think they would have tried to manoeuvre him into position for a shot at Wilder / Parker / Joshua.
Can you imagine how Joshua vs Price would have ended..... :nono:
Price would have been the first Englishman on the moon!:boxing:
Price was dictating the fight behind that multiple jab, doing really good damage to the body, and was able to catch Hammer in combination when things were open; it's just that his punch resistance is what it is (Caldwell's added weight has definitely helped the shock absorbers) and he was seemingly on fumes after 5 rounds (though I don't ever recall Price having all that great a tank to begin with).
He's never going to be Evander Holyfield, but if he can't go into a fight, knowing that he has the stamina to put forward a hard 10 rounds, it'd be better if he just chose to hang up the gloves now, imo,
I too thought Price was in solid control until about round 5, when the wheels totally came off. He is a very frustrating guy, but if the guy was just tougher, he could get to world level. He's huge, long, and can crack with that right. But his jab is pitiful and my god his endurance is sooooo awful. I mean Hammer is no physical specimen himself and he was recovering 100X faster..
I thought Hammer was boxing better to be honest.
Price is annoying though because it seems like there's something there but he can't put it all together.
Imo he should maximise his fitness, give it one last go and if he fails next time, call it a day.
Price was dictating the fight behind that multiple jab, doing really good damage to the body, and was able to catch Hammer in combination when things were open; it's just that his punch resistance is what it is (Caldwell's added weight has definitely helped the shock absorbers) and he was seemingly on fumes after 5 rounds (though I don't ever recall Price having all that great a tank to begin with).
He's never going to be Evander Holyfield, but if he can't go into a fight, knowing that he has the stamina to put forward a hard 10 rounds, it'd be better if he just chose to hang up the gloves now, imo,
David Price fought, for the most part, a really good fight for the first five rounds (where he was clearly winning, imo), came out a little ahead of himself and got caught with a telling shot in the 6th, and simply didn't have the stamina/energy to give himself a chance to recover after that point.
Really? He might have been winning the fight up until then and landing more punches but it was pretty clear that Hammer was able to get inside rather easily and when he did Price had no idea what to do. It was looking pretty grim for him IMO, even before he started to gas.
The knockdown he got was somewhat lucky because he was about to get sparked out then.
The only thing he has going for him is power because he's unable to use his length and his jab is terrible.
David Price fought, for the most part, a really good fight for the first five rounds (where he was clearly winning, imo), came out a little ahead of himself and got caught with a telling shot in the 6th, and simply didn't have the stamina/energy to give himself a chance to recover after that point.
Not sure how much time he has left, but Price is just fine; keep on listening to Caldwell (who had the perfect instructions for the proper tactics for Price, though Price's brief lapse on minding his defenses as he gauged what Hammer had left was his undoing), and continue to work on the conditioning (the move to around 270lbs seems to have alleviated most of the concerns about punch resistance, but he's got to develop a deeper gas tank than the hard 6 rounds and fade situation that he's currently facing).
I thought Hammer was boxing better to be honest.
Price is annoying though because it seems like there's something there but he can't put it all together.
Imo he should maximise his fitness, give it one last go and if he fails next time, call it a day.
Price has a bad chin, he's too stiff and he put on way too much weight and can't fight past 5 rounds. Last night he entered the ring at 20 stone (280 lbs), which is way too big. He should be around 17-18 stone.
I don't see any way he comes back from this. He's gone through like 3 different trainers. Each of them have tried to emphasize distance and controlling fighters with his jab. Price does that... for a few rounds, and then he gets backed up into the ropes and looks totally lost.
TS pm'ed me a ton of times, no idea why but they were extremely strange.
I can only conclude the thread is totally serious :lol1:
British lady who is in love with David Price
price isnt taking his career seriously at all
I remember after that first embarrassing loss he looked like the most depressed man ever in one interview and then at the last weigh in, his physique looked like that of a man who didnt even try
styles make fights
Scary thing is had he gotten past Hammer I think they would have tried to manoeuvre him into position for a shot at Wilder / Parker / Joshua.
Can you imagine how Joshua vs Price would have ended..... :nono:
The gas tank is now in serious question, but for 6 rounds, any of the champions would be facing off against a 6'8, 270lb heavyweight with pop, a good developing heavy jab, and a boxing brain in the corner that 1)understands what tools his fighter is working with and 2)can effectively communicate the scenarios in the fight, accurately, to give his guy the best chance to win.
Wilder has already shown me that he can take a big heavyweight punch and keep his stamina to box a hard 12 round fight without much issue, but I still need to see if Joshua can push a hard 10/12 round pace or whether Joseph Parker can actually take a bigtime punch.
... not sure what fight you folks were watching, lol
David Price fought, for the most part, a really good fight for the first five rounds (where he was clearly winning, imo), came out a little ahead of himself and got caught with a telling shot in the 6th, and simply didn't have the stamina/energy to give himself a chance to recover after that point.
Not sure how much time he has left, but Price is just fine; keep on listening to Caldwell (who had the perfect instructions for the proper tactics for Price, though Price's brief lapse on minding his defenses as he gauged what Hammer had left was his undoing), and continue to work on the conditioning (the move to around 270lbs seems to have alleviated most of the concerns about punch resistance, but he's got to develop a deeper gas tank than the hard 6 rounds and fade situation that he's currently facing).
I don't think David Price should retire. But he has one last chance of getting it right, but he needs to start from scratch with a new trainer and conditioner. He needs to face reality and be honest with himself, listen to the advice of people like Lennox Lewis and Duke McKenzie. If he could hang around for another 4-5 years, win the Lonsdale belt outright and possibly have a run as the European champion. That would have been a decent career.