Make a constructive case for me other than hype. Logical points and facts only. I know this is a challenge for most "boxing" fans.
Jacobs lost to a better fighter than Groves and Derek Edwards. So that loss washes against the Degale and Jack's loss.
Now let's talk about the wins.
Degale has had several questionable wins and draws. Controversial against bums like Porky Medina and Piotr(Watch that fight) and Jack..... he arguably lost all 3. Even the Bute fight was close.
Jack has had mad draws against absolute bums.
Meanwhile, Jacobs has KOed everyone in front of him. Top contenders at MW including an undefeated champion in Kid Chocolate. You can argue MW is weaker but the fact is that is hype.
Why?
Degale and Jack are drawing with and arguably losing to absolute bums. On every logical and factual scale p4p, Jacobs is better than Degale and Jack.
None of them are anywhere near a P4P list, DeGale and Jack have had struggles with lesser opponents but they've fought better opposition than Jacobs. Jacobs has faced 2 top 10 MWs his entire career, Pirog and Jacobs. His body of work is weaker but his best and, honestly, only good win was very impressive. It's all a matter of opinion in the end, you can make an argument for placing the 3 of them in any order...... if anyone refuses to acknowledge that then said poster is just a fan boy.
jacobs isnt better, and thats because hes signed to fight ggg. Because of this, he has to be systematically trashed on this site in order to absolve ggg of any credit if he beats him. IN the space of a month, jacobs has turned from a legitimate world class puncher to someones whos B level cause he lost 6 or so years ago when he was a kid. By the time the fight comes around, jacobs cv will have been ripped to shreds so much that people start calling him a bum.
Correct.
Its all about who the narrative benefits. No logic nor facts
You're probably using it to hype Golovkin but P4P fighters don't get schooled as much as Degale has been 3 times.
Degale is overrated.
So the fact is MW > SMW
That's all I'm saying.
no one is a bum, these are top level boxers. All of these are good wins on anyone's resume.
If all GGG faced are bums then Porky Medina might as well be a hospice patient.
Jack, Degale and Jacobs are nowhere near the top ten.. no where near. . top 20 yes.
so who's better? the only thing to look at is resumes.
Jacobs best win is KO1 Quillin.
Degale best wins are UD12 Andre Dirrell and UD12 Bute.
Jack best wins are MD12 Anthony Dirrell and SD12 Groves.
not much to brag about. but based on this I'll rank em
1. Degale 2. Jacobs 3. Jack
we know Jack got robbed vs Bute but we can only go with what's on paper.
alright fair enough. you are only acknowledging their best wins without their consistency of performance.
You are not accounting Degale's controversial win over Porky(absolute terrible bum). He arguably lost that fight in many including my eyes.
Let's not forget Degale just got beat the hell up by the guy you rank after Jacobs, jack.
no such clout over Jacobs.
Therefore Jacobs has to be ranked over Degale.
nope. we can debate about that "win" and Andre Direll being better than Kid Chocolate.
However, we can't debate that Degale arguably lost to 2 absolute bums in Medina and Piotr. Degale also has a draw against a mediocre Jack on top of that.
we have to look at the whole resume.
You want a constructive opinion as to why,but you seem to try and refute every single one of them,so what is the point..When someone wants to argue their point of view,its an endless argument..Makes no sense.
Jack, Degale and Jacobs are nowhere near the top ten.. no where near. . top 20 yes.
so who's better? the only thing to look at is resumes.
Jacobs best win is KO1 Quillin.
Degale best wins are UD12 Andre Dirrell and UD12 Bute.
Jack best wins are MD12 Anthony Dirrell and SD12 Groves.
not much to brag about. but based on this I'll rank em
1. Degale 2. Jacobs 3. Jack
we know Jack got robbed vs Bute but we can only go with what's on paper.
No they don't. Beating groves who was stopped twice isn't better than beating undefeated quillen. And beat an over the hill direll isn't a great feat. What solid fighter did jack beat?
Jack beat Bute, try watching the fight.
Your thread failed.
Why isn't this B-level fighter better P4P than these B-level fighters?
Nobody gives a ****, they aren't anywhere near a P4P list.
lol it's cute to watch simple jack squirm. P4P LIST DOE! DERRRRRRRRPP! CAN'T THINK FOR MYSELF DOE!
Jacobs struggled with the bum Mora.
TKO stoppage both times.
That's not the same as a controversial decision. is it? you are approaching full retard now btw.
You are trying to use DeGale's and Jacks poor performances to boost Jacob's hype. They're all no better than B-level. But head to head DeGale and Jack beat Jacobs because of size.
nope. Degale and Jack are consistently going life and death with absolute bums. They are overrated. How can you explain arguably losing to a guy that got KOed by 50 yr old Yori Boy Campas? Z grade bum. You can't. This is all on top of the fact P4p Degale got destroyed by Jack. Degale's overrated.
How can you explain away Jack going to a draw with a bum like Peribian? You can't. They can't even stop the bums they face. And P4P Degale got battered by Jack.
Jacobs isn't doing that. He's more dominant by far against top contenders.
Why what? Why none of them are P4P? Because they aren't good enough. B-level fighters.
nope.
Jack is someone that drew with Periban. He beat the brakes off Degale. Degale went life and death with bums like Porky just before the fight. Many saw him lose.
Are they dominant over top contenders like Danny Jacobs? nope.
They are overrated. but you just don't have the critical thinking skills.
Here's a fact, nobody has any of them near their top 10 P4P.
Head to Head Jacobs loses to both.
that is not logical thinking. you are using illogical sensationalism. OH EVERYBODY IS JUMPING OFF THE BRIDGE, SO I MUST AS WELL!
Here's the logical thinking question.... why?
go reread the OP and come back with a critical thinking rebuttal. it'll be a challenge for sure.