tif his last fight was the 2nd juan manuel marquez fight would you still rank him as an all time great or just a great fighter
and would you still have him ahead as a greater fighter than erik morales or juan manuel marquez or marco antonio barrera
i personally would not have him as all time great
i would rank him as a better fighte than morales but i would say marco antonio barrera was a greather fighter and have uan manuel marquez ahead of him as well
relax . .the thread is about resume PRIOR to facing DLH.
prior to facing DLH ... Manny was already HOF.
prior to facing DLH ... Floyd was not HOF worthy.
no fanboy nonsense, those are facts.
Definitely not a fact.
Floyd was absolutely HOF worthy pre De La Hoya.
4 weight world champion (3 Lineal), P4P #1 for multiple years, P4P top5/10 for a decade.
You know Mark Too Sharp Johnson and Virgil Hill and co are in the HOF right? Floyd pre DLH was a shoe in.
of course you dont, skip. ill dumb it down.....
what should i type when im searching for that fight you think took place ? the one where pac kos jmm...
better or does it need to be even dumber ?!?!?!
I said morales you idiot smh
shell of hoya = pitiful ''win''
shot erik = meh
shot mab = (see erik)
going tooth and nail before getting put to sleep = credit
may beat the better version of dlh and would have murk'd those other guys. in fact, he humiliated jmm. will never be a need for a rematch.
how does it feel to be a fanboy on the losing end ?
relax . .the thread is about resume PRIOR to facing DLH.
prior to facing DLH ... Manny was already HOF.
prior to facing DLH ... Floyd was not HOF worthy.
no fanboy nonsense, those are facts.
cmon skip, give me the words to use to ensure i get a proper video. we both know youre too much of a f@g to post the nonexistent fight.
I don't even know what your dumbass is on about
:rofl: What a moron.
He was walks around in the 150s, but he struggles to put on weight for weigh-ins at 147? :dunce:
He was weighing mid 140s on fight night at 130.
Look at his last four fights: 144 vs Vargas, 145 vs Bradley, 145 vs Mayweather and even as low as 143 vs Algieri. Does that look like a true welterweight? Nope.
He had to eat a big meal before the May weigh-in, which is unheard of.
http://sports.inquirer.net/179942/pacquiao-too-light-for-weigh-in-roach-worried
Again, educate yourself, it's clear you don't know what you're talking about.
He didn't lose because of weight. Mayweather and JMM weren't big WW's, Pacquiao outweighed Mayweather on fight night. Try another excuse.
So Floyd really was severely dehydrated after cutting 3 pounds...
RIDICULOUS :dunce: :dunce:
pacquiao was an all time great before he went to WW, but WW was what cemented his legacy as a top tier great and made him all that money.
the guy had victories over morales, barrera, and marquez. that's a freakish resume at or around FW. add in his tenure as a champion at lower weights that 122 and he was already a hall of famer and a great, but he didn't become a real legend until he went to 147 lbs, back to 140 to nearly kill hatton, beat up miguel cotto, etc.
But you said Crawford beats pacman in his prime
Pacquaio has weighed in at 147 lbs quite a few times.
So he can make it.
Yeah your right he's done it before but he struggles to make it, he has to eat big meals before weighs in just to make 47.
147 is the WW limit, Manny and Marquez can't make that, they usually come in around 143-45, they're small guys.
Fight night weight isn't important (idky nubs keep bringing that up) the official weight is.
Pacquaio has weighed in at 147 lbs quite a few times.
So he can make it.
Degale just came in at 166.5 are you telling me he's too small and can't make the SMW limit? Some fighters come in lighter than they need to doesn't mean they can't make the weight limit. :rofl:
The more pounds you pack on, the stronger you are, that's the whole point of reaching the weight limit, fighters have to get as close to it as possible or at least near it. Educate yourself Clarke.
What do you mean can't reach the WW limit? They weighed around the same as Mayweather on fight night, 150.
There was a video of Mayweather last week stepping on a scale fully clothed with a tracksuit and shoes on, after a year out and he only weighed 160. Big as Canelo though.
:dunce:
147 is the WW limit, Manny and Marquez can't make that, they usually come in around 143-45, they're small guys.
Fight night weight isn't important (idky nubs keep bringing that up) the official weight is.
He didn't lose because of weight. Mayweather and JMM weren't big WW's, Pacquiao outweighed Mayweather on fight night. Try another excuse.
Both JMM and Manny aren't true welterweights, they can't even reach the welterweight limit (147).
You buggin if you think Floyd is a small welterweight, that's casual talk. Did you not see him when he fought a drained Canelo at the 152 catchweight? He looked huge, as big as Canelo.
noticeable wins prior to DLH : MAB 1, JMM 1, Erik Morales 2 & 3, MAB 2, JMM 2.
beating three legends multiple times is enough for me to be HOF.
for the fun of it let's do Floyd prior to DLH : Corrales, Jose Luis Castillo 1 & 2, Corley, Gatti, Zab Judah, Baldomir.
is this HOF worthy? I say no.
his logic:
Erik Morales fought Pacquiao at 28 3/4 years old = old, and cannot cut weight anymore.
Erik morales fought pacquiao second time at 29 years old 1/2 = erik morales is shot and should not be given any credit.
lol he's too dumb
The Barrera fights were before Pacquiao moron, it gets harder for fighters to cut weight as they get older. Are you really so dense you don't understand that?
I swear you're f uckin stupid and don't even know it we can leave that for a ggg thread :) he fought PAC half a year after his berrera win MORON.
Morales moved up to 135 because it was too hard making 130. He wanted the Pacquiao fights at 135 and Pacquiao refused making Morales come down to 130. Look at the damn weigh-in pics he's dead at the weigh-in. It's embarrassing that Pacquiao fans try to claim the Morales wins as great.
But he had no problem doing it with berrera
See? there is a guy saying he wont give credit to pac by koing morales even when morales still fought on and won two more championships, and almost beating maidana (gave it a draw) then a shot morales still went to the distance against DSG.
That guy is Isaac aka hater of everything
A weight drained past prime version of Morales who had lost to Raheem. He gets next to 0 credit for beating Morales.
Weight drained??? Lmao tell me how a 130 can be weight drained??? Is this aushwitz????