Those hoping for a sequel to Vasyl Lomachenko’s close loss to Orlando Salido in 2014 will have to wait after promoter Bob Arum accused Salido of getting cold feet for a rematch.
“Orlando Salido chickened out,” Arum told ******.com on Tuesday. “It’s the only way to say it. He asked for crazy money. We agreed to the crazy money. And then he says, ‘No.’ He’d just assume not take the fight. Why? Because he knows he can’t beat (Lomachenko). It was a fluke the first time. So, there’s no other way to paint it. Orlando Salido chickened out of the fight because whatever his demands were, we met those financial demands and then he let us know he’s not interested in the fight.”
Sean Gibbons, who manages Salido, laughed off Arum’s comments, saying the negotiations just fell apart and that no one got cold feet. “Using Orlando’s name and chicken in the same sentence — that’s ludicrous,” Gibbons said in a phone interview. “Olando has never chickened out of any fight. We had good talks with Bob. I thought we had come to some kind of an agreement. It just didn’t seem to work. Orlando Salido wants to give the fans the fights they want. And I don’t hear any fans clamoring for Salido-Lomachenko.”
Gibbons believes fans would rather see a rematch of the June 4 war involving 130-pound titleholder Francisco Vargas and Salido than against Lomachenko, who lost a split decision to an overweight Salido in a rough, physical affair. “Things didn’t work out,” Gibbons said. “Orlando voiced to me, ‘Hey, why do I want to fight a guy in Lomachenko who I know is going to run, grab and hold when I can go Mexican-to-Mexican with Francisco Vargas and give the people what they really want see. The only guys who want to see Lomachenko — are Lomachenko.”
Arum declined to get into specifics on Salido’s demands and Gibbons also declined to get into dollar amounts. As a result, Lomachenko (7-1, 5 knockouts) will look for another opponent for the first quarter of 2017 on HBO, which is considering dates in March or April for the gifted Ukrainian 130-pound titleholder. “Lomachenko will fight in March,” Arum said. “Carl (Moretti, VP of Top Rank) is looking for an opponent and we’re looking toward the end of March.”
Salido, for his part, is chasing the rematch with Vargas and won’t know his plans until after Jan. 28, when Vargas defends his junior lightweight title against Miguel Berchelt, according to Gibbons.
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dont act like you have money...............wait unless you started giving blowjobs for a dollar again. you going to give 5k blow jobs?
I'm not gay. SORRY!!!!!
ducking ducking ducking ducking.
salido already schooled him once, no need to see another ass beating.
I got $5000 on loma "IF" they rematch. You in on some grown man **** or will you "duck" this bet and not pay like a lil boy. Sup!
I'm not sure if you're trolling or not.
And here's the reason Gibbons says it didn't 'work out':
There's NOTHING coming out of either party that implies that they didn't satisfy Salido's demands. When they lowballed Salido before, Gibbons said that they're offering chump change. This time, nothing was said about being lowballed.
You guys are reading into what you want to see because you dislike Arum.
Good ****!!!!!!!!!!!
Lomachenko was green after his second pro fight but is a seasoned veteran after eight fights? That sounds like the same lame logic fans of Canelo Alvarez used to explain his loss to Mayweather.
You would have to be just a dam straight up hater to not acknowledge the growth from where loma was in his first fight to where he is now after only 8 fckn fights. Loma obviously is Canelo and quite the contrary, I've seen a slicker more defensively Improve Canelo since his loss. I'm sure you'll disagree. But loma is a whole different beast.
So you believe that a warrior like Salido really chickened out?
And what exactly is "crazy" money to Bob Arum? An exact amount wasn't specified.
I've said this before, it doesn't matter what 'crazy money' is. The point was that both camps agree that Salido's financial demands were met. Whether it's 500K or 50M is irrelevant. He asked and he received.
I do believe that Salido doesn't think he can win. He's gonna take a few fights with lesser fighters, go into a few 'wars', then retire with a win over Lomachenko under his belt. To me, that's a b1tch move. Same way if Ward retires without giving Kovalev a rematch I will forever label him a lil b1tch. Same goes for any fighter. Floyd left no doubt with Castillo 2 and Maidana 2. I expect the same of any fighter who gets a hotly disputed win.
I'm not sure if you're trolling or not.
And here's the reason Gibbons says it didn't 'work out':
There's NOTHING coming out of either party that implies that they didn't satisfy Salido's demands. When they lowballed Salido before, Gibbons said that they're offering chump change. This time, nothing was said about being lowballed.
You guys are reading into what you want to see because you dislike Arum.
So you believe that a warrior like Salido really chickened out?
And what exactly is "crazy" money to Bob Arum? An exact amount wasn't specified.
Doubt he gets anything meaningful in March. I think he'll only fight three times this year too the way things are looking. What you think about a move up to 135? just the way his career been going a tune up or two at 135 and hopefully can get a shot at one of the champs at the end of the year. It set up nice for a mikey fight later next year too.
126 and 130 have a lot of talent. I want to see Loma fight these guys. Why just leave questions like that?
If 126 and 130 were crappy divisions then I would say Loma should move up, but there is too much talent to not fight these guys. Or at least attempt to.
The Mikey Garcia fight can wait. I didn't expect them to fight this year anyway. They're going to try and build that fight up for a bit.
I don't know if Top Rank wants Loma to fight at 126 again, because Oscar Valdez is there, but Loma's team said they would think about it if there's a good match up there.
I want Loma to stay at 130. These guys can't hide forever. It's not like HBO has a lot of money and TV time to give all of these guys a spot unless they fight Loma. So most of them will have to fight Loma to get a good pay day or they can just keep fighting for less money elsewhere.
I want Loma to stay at 130 with the possibility of fighting at 126 for a good match up. 135 is for a later time.
I think fighting four times is possible, but we will see.
Did you read the article? Salido's manager said they had good talks with Arum and thought they had come to an agreement. But then things didn't work out.
It doesn't sound to me like they got what they requested.
I'm not sure if you're trolling or not.
because whatever his demands were, we met those financial demands and then he let us know he’s not interested in the fight.
And here's the reason Gibbons says it didn't 'work out':
“Things didn’t work out,” Gibbons said. “Orlando voiced to me, ‘Hey, why do I want to fight a guy in Lomachenko who I know is going to run, grab and hold
There's NOTHING coming out of either party that implies that they didn't satisfy Salido's demands. When they lowballed Salido before, Gibbons said that they're offering chump change. This time, nothing was said about being lowballed.
You guys are reading into what you want to see because you dislike Arum.
I have no problem with the Vargas rematch and Salido is playing it smart. If he loses, which he will, he can still play the Loma card later in the year.
Manny requested a high guarantee, which he didn't get, so the fight is unlikely.
Salido requested high payday, got it, then decided not to take the fight.
Why are you lumping them together?
Why do you guys keep saying this? The article states that Arum gave Salido what he wanted.
It doesn't matter what the "crazy money" was. It could be 5M or it could be 300K.
What Salido requested is what he got, then he decided not to take the fight. Arum is quoted saying exactly that.
I do, why don't you? Even Gibbons didn't contradict what Arum said. Nothing that came out of Salido's camp mentioned financial demands not being met.
Did you read the article? Salido's manager said they had good talks with Arum and thought they had come to an agreement. But then things didn't work out.
It doesn't sound to me like they got what they requested.
According to that guy jozef, Arum isn't lying today. :lol1:
Arum only lies when it's convenient to some.
Manny requested a high guarantee, which he didn't get, so the fight is unlikely.
Salido requested high payday, got it, then decided not to take the fight.
Why are you lumping them together?
Did you read the article? Salido's manager said they had good talks with Arum and thought they had come to an agreement. But then things didn't work out.
It doesn't sound to me like they got what they requested.
Ducklido
Ducklido fought in their prime with all the lions: Juan Manuel Marquez, Mikey Garcia, Yuriorkia Gamboa, Juan Ma Lopez x 2, Lomachenko, Robert Guerrero(when he was good in 130-135) and Francisco Vargas.
He is just playing with Bob and Loma.
He is old and he knows he can fight with Lomachenko anytime after a fight with Vargas.
It doesn't matter what the "crazy money" was. It could be 5M or it could be 300K.
What Salido requested is what he got, then he decided not to take the fight. Arum is quoted saying exactly that.
All that tells us is that one of them is lying. Is there any particular reason to believe the one lying is not Arum?
They could both be lying for all we know, and knowing boxing that's the most likely scenario. But Salido being afraid of taking a loss isn't really believable.
Siri either tests Arums or just doesn't want to be clowned. In any case, personally I don't want to watch this rematch, it doesn't make a sense to me. Bob is right in one thing – first fight was a fluke, nothing more. AFAIK Siri earned something like 50K for Vargas, while both Rocky and Walters got much more for Loma's fight.
I do, why don't you? Even Gibbons didn't contradict what Arum said. Nothing that came out of Salido's camp mentioned financial demands not being met.
Ok. I don't because the devil is always in the details and I don't have any details.
SO you believe him?
I do, why don't you? Even Gibbons didn't contradict what Arum said. Nothing that came out of Salido's camp mentioned financial demands not being met.
We had good talks with Bob. I thought we had come to some kind of an agreement. It just didn’t seem to work.
Gibbons said literally nothing to dissuade that idea. No longer about money, now they're afraid Loma will fight negative which is both ironic coming from Salido and also unlikely seeing as how Loma doesn't run around. They're not at all interested in facing Loma again, put this fight to rest, it's evident now.
It doesn't matter what the "crazy money" was. It could be 5M or it could be 300K.
What Salido requested is what he got, then he decided not to take the fight. Arum is quoted saying exactly that.
SO you believe him?
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