This guy has the worst resume in MW championship history in arguably the weakest MW division in history
He won't make ATG status or HOF status, his greatest win will be forever Daniel geale or Jacobs if he wins
97k PPV buys? The regular youtuber who has a decent YouTube channel gets more views than that per vid :lol1:
You don't think so? So I'm guessing you think MW is loaded then?
I'm not the dummy claiming that HW is loaded, that's all you bud.
If you're gonna criticize MW for being weak, at least pick WW to compare it to - not HW you dunce.
Say HW is loaded again though, I haven't laughed that hard in days.
This guy has the worst resume in MW championship history in arguably the weakest MW division in history
He won't make ATG status or HOF status, his greatest win will be forever Daniel geale or Jacobs if he wins
97k PPV buys? The regular youtuber who has a decent YouTube channel gets more views than that per vid :lol1:
stfu...............
LOTS of people in the industry read this board . . .
GGG has an HBO contract. GGG can sell out major arenas as the A side. GGG can headline a PPV against an unknown opponent and sell the same amount as ward vs kovalev.
i'm not saying GGG is anywhere near the star canelo is, BUT, how many guys are as big as GGG right now? very few. thousands and thousands of fighters in the world and a very small handful can draw what GGG can draw in the US. so to say he has no bargaining chips is ridiculous. he's the only fighter with the three most important belts in his division in the entire sport. he's one of very very few that can generate millions in one night.
He can keep his belts then...because he's on the slide now and will be lucky to beat Canelo at this stage. Again, canelo doesn't need him, he can do just fine without him. If he fight Chavez, how much do you think he'll make? 30 mil? What's GayLoveKin gonna make? 2 or 3 fighting Jacobs? IF he wins that fight...then what's he gonna do? Best case scenario is that he beats Jacobs, and is able to get the last belt from Saunders, great...so 2 or 3 mil there...then what? He's gonna have to move up and fight Degale (if he beats jack) in england, because he won't draw sh1t here...so maybe total in that fight he makes 10 mil with ppv. I don't think by that time he'll beat Degale or jack.
This is why he needs canelo...not the other way around.
Why am I a troll? I tell you the truth about this hype job, you don't like it and suddenly I'm a troll? You're an imbecile, who doesn't apparently know sh1t about this sport...gtfo newb.
Wtf has golovkin done to even prove his worth? I realize that you're a GayLoveKin fan, but you must be new to this sport because that 150k number? Lol well if that's what you want to believe. I'll just encourage you to look a little more deep into that.
So I've never really cared about it but after looking it up it seems that only one person is reporting the 97k number (Rick Glasser), everyone else is reporting 150k.
Why do you feel the need to call him GayLoveKin? Some of you sound like you're still in middle school.
Meth -
If GGG is a hype job, why did Cotto pay step aside fees to avoid him? Why did Canelo vacate and move down in weight to avoid him?
GGG is the only WBC/WBA/IBF champion in boxing. He's the most dominant champion in all of boxing.
I am not a GGG fan. I don't root for him. I don't like him. But facts are facts. He has a stranglehold on his division far beyond any other fighter in the sport. A hype job would not be able to pull that off.
You're homophobic rhetoric shows what a low class and low intelligence person you are.
I am not new to the sport. Been following it closely since the 80s and have worked in the industry for nearly 20 years, with plenty of experience on the PPV end. The 97k number is bogus. Nobody reputable has corroborated that number.
Ok wait, how many of you here "have worked in the industry"? It's no wonder boxing has the issues it does...
Bottom line, golovkin has no bargaining chips, he's fought nobodies, he's beaten nobodies, thus he has NO ONE on his resume to boast about except a guy that had to move up 2 TWO weight divisions, AFTER he declined a 157 catchweight. Yet, in his OWN words, he said that was his biggest test...sooooo what?
"Now, you can argue that division was also weak, but he fought EVERYBODY there was to fight"
which is exactly what GGG is doing. he has the division on lockdown. fighters are avoiding the division so they can avoid him. he has the WBC, WBA and IBF belts. he's willing to face anybody for them. knocking GGG when he is, by far, the most dominant champion in any division in boxing right now is laughable.
he's willing to face anybody. he's knocking everybody out. the division isn't weak. he's just great.
shhhhhhh, this is NSB. Logic is frowned upon here......
So a nobody in the sport made $5 million in his last fight and and now this nobody is being offered eight figures by GB? Yeah, OK buddy.
Do you think GB's first offer is the best they can do? It's just a number to work off of. It's like going to a car dealership and accepting the first offer they throw at you.
and dont forget, you dont get to take delivery of that car for another year at the earliest......
No? Then why did they say 164 lbs ONLY TO LIE and say they didn't say it? Are you completely stupid or have a lobotomy?
Good luck to any surgeon trying to give you a lobotomy.
If you had a brain scan the result would come back negative.
There was no ducking, you ignorant goon.
No? Then why did they say 164 lbs ONLY TO LIE and say they didn't say it? Are you completely stupid or have a lobotomy?
Meth -
We both know you're a childish troll, but I don't want other users to be fooled by your nonsense.
GGG's PPV, against an opponent the public was completely unfamiliar with, did 150k, not 97. Hopkins against an unknown on PPV would have done even less.
Canelo vs GGG will be bigger than Canelo vs Cotto.
GGG is a much bigger draw right now than Hopkins was and Canelo isn't nearly as big of a draw right now as De La Hoya was. So why would GGG/Canelo have the same split as Hopkins/DLH? Doesn't make any sense.
It doesn't matter what you care about. GGG selling out MSG proves he's a much bigger draw than Hopkins ever was.
It doesn't matter that I'm pompous. It doesn't matter that you're very immature and of low intelligence. Either are points have merit or they don't.
Why am I a troll? I tell you the truth about this hype job, you don't like it and suddenly I'm a troll? You're an imbecile, who doesn't apparently know sh1t about this sport...gtfo newb.
Wtf has golovkin done to even prove his worth? I realize that you're a GayLoveKin fan, but you must be new to this sport because that 150k number? Lol well if that's what you want to believe. I'll just encourage you to look a little more deep into that.
Ward is P4P 1 and he fought the most scared man in boxing and he beat him fairly comfortably, P4P 1 in 2016 and FOTY yall gigi clown fanboys just mad yall so mad why though?
Lil G need to hurry up he nearly 40
Lmfao! Biased much?
You should apply for a job as a boxing judge with the Nevada Athletic Commission!
Ward wasn't 2 divisions up when Gigi ducked him....and you KNOW this....he was at 168..the same divison Chavez Jr and Froch were when GGG offered them a fight at 158...not 164 like they did Ward.:boxing:
Anybody from 154 to 168...Ya'll remember that lie?
Ward highhandedly stopped them from saying that.
That's bull****. Ward hadn't made 168 in nearly 3 years and had just fought at 172 when he sent the offer to GGG. The offer was for a fight in the summer of 2016, and in the summer of 2016, Ward came out and said that he can't make 168 any more.
Nobody with a brain in their head should have needed Andre to tell them that. Him giving up his SMW title and coming back at LHW is all the evidence anybody should have needed.
How exactly do you duck someone that's two division up? GGG haters are traumatized, all they can say is bu...but Ward.
Ward is P4P 1 and he fought the most scared man in boxing and he beat him fairly comfortably, P4P 1 in 2016 and FOTY yall gigi clown fanboys just mad yall so mad why though?
Lil G need to hurry up he nearly 40
i don't know who tom is. sorry.
yes, a flat fee of 10MM for a fight that will likely do a million buys or more is a lowball offer. when the fight is finally made, GGG will make a lot more than 10MM.
it's easy to say someone is stupid. but can you prove it? either my positions have merit or they don't. your opinion of me personally is irrelevant. but it is very common for those of lower intelligence to assume the other person is stupid when they finally encounter someone of advanced intelligence.
if you feel the need to compare intellectual credentials, we can do that. but it wouldn't turn out well for you.
And on this statement? Don't blow your own c0ck there too much you pompous azz golovkin sac holder.
only 3 guys have pieced together the WBC/WBA/IBF middleweight titles. hagler. hopkins. GGG (yes i realize taylor lucked into facing someone that had already spent the time unifying).
yes, GGG's resume is currently lacking superfights. that will change when he KOs canelo.
It's not just lacking superfights...it's lacking any good fighters...period...There's NOT ONE elite fighter on his resume...maybe a WW? Lol there's NOT ONE future HOF fighter on his resume. You know what there is a lot of? BUMS, guys like the 100-1 Wade on house arrest, Daniel geale who was stopped by Cotto 1 Rd later and only weighed in at 153, and was also stopped in his last fight iirc, and there's quite a long list of fighters at a much lower level than that.
Canelo has 2 Hof fighters on his resume, and 3 fighters who most would consider elite. I'm not even a fan of the kid, but you try to dress this sh1t up like it's some kind of barbie playhouse and cold hard facts only say golovkin is a joke, he's been a joke and I'll say it again...he's A HBO HYPE JOB PROJECT that they are ready to cash out on. They've got a lot of jock holding invested in this guy, they need to get something back.
their guarantees were 25MM & 9MM, but both had PPV upside.
hopkins had fought for 350K the year before. so his drawing power then was nowhere close to GGG's drawing power now.
GGG is going to sell out MSG as the A side in march. hopkins was never that level of attraction.
And again....I said 30 and 10 million, 25 and 9 million were their guarantees
"Although De La Hoya was the challenger for Hopkins's three titles, De La Hoya held the leverage in negotiations for the bout. De La Hoya is guaranteed $25 million and Hopkins $9 million. If the pay-per-view purchases are above 1.5 million, De La Hoya could get $35 million, and Hopkins could nearly double his take, Arum said."
It didn't do 1.5...it did 1 million, thus Hopkins supposed total amount was 10 million. Oscar was also by far and away a bigger star than Canelo (who IS the draw) which is why the fight did 1 million, with his previous ppvs coming in a little over 900k.
I don't care about selling out at MSG with low to mid priced tickets vs Jacobs. It's irrelevant when talking about fighting Canelo because that fight will be at Texas stadium or in Vegas where the Mexican fan base is very high, and why will it be there? Because Canelo, again, IS the draw here and I don't give a fvck how you try to twist it around like a b1tchy pregnant woman, fact is fact.
See, the difference is that GayLoveKin NEEDS Canelo to make a big payday, not the other way around. Canelo has options that the other side doesn't, canelo also has the time, which the other side doesn't.
i don't know who tom is. sorry.
yes, a flat fee of 10MM for a fight that will likely do a million buys or more is a lowball offer. when the fight is finally made, GGG will make a lot more than 10MM.
it's easy to say someone is stupid. but can you prove it? either my positions have merit or they don't. your opinion of me personally is irrelevant. but it is very common for those of lower intelligence to assume the other person is stupid when they finally encounter someone of advanced intelligence.
if you feel the need to compare intellectual credentials, we can do that. but it wouldn't turn out well for you.
When the fvck did triple pussE get this drawing power? Was it the 97k he got? Or are you speaking of a fight vs a WW in england that NOBODY came to see his azz?
And, you are indeed stupid if you think that fight would do 1 million buys lmao! Cotto vs Canelo did 900k and again NO ONE knows who the fvck golovkin is. He sounds like the schoolyard bully retard....1 million buys...lmao again. Get your fanboy dreams out of your azz.