This is something that was ignored back in the day. The NSAC director said he was disappointed with USADA. He blamed them (and not Mayweather) for the way they handed a TUE to Mayweather when they were not supposed to have the authority to do so, and more than that, they waited three weeks to inform the NSAC about that IV they should have immediately informed.
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As far as USADA, I was extremely disappointed that I wasn't notified right away (about Mayweather receiving an IV). When it comes to TUE, we are the sole agency that approves the administering of TUEs. USADA, nor any other anti-doping agency that does drug testing, doesn't have the authority to adminster a TUE.
"The bottom line is USADA didn't keep us informed, which is totally unacceptable and unprofessional.
Source: http://www.beinsports.com/en/boxing/news/nsac-boss-has-no-problem-with-mayweather-ov-1/92628
And people ask why VADA is better than USADA? Before the "Can boxing trust USADA article" USADA had caught only 1 fighter in 46 fights. While VADA had caught 3 fighters in less than half fights. VADA continued to catch dopers and has now become the standard of testing in boxing.
Not to mention that in Cycling, Armstrong passed every USADA test. He was never caught by USADA.
All the top guys are on something... ALL OF THEM! What separates Floyd is that he pretended to clean up the sport and accuse others guys of using. Meanwhile... he was injecting lidocaine/xylocaine into his hands so he can punch harder, and taking illegal IVs that can mask steroid use.
NVSAC stated that it was "unprofessional and unacceptable" that they weren't immediately informed of the TUE.
sad to see you so desperate to create a story, lol.
And that USADA gave the TUE, which they didn't have the authority to do (give the TUE, whatever they informed soon or not).
This is something that was ignored back in the day. The NSAC director said he was disappointed with USADA. He blamed them (and not Mayweather) for the way they handed a TUE to Mayweather when they were not supposed to have the authority to do so, and more than that, they waited three weeks to inform the NSAC about that IV they should have immediately informed.
Full text here:
Source: http://www.beinsports.com/en/boxing/news/nsac-boss-has-no-problem-with-mayweather-ov-1/92628
And people ask why VADA is better than USADA? Before the "Can boxing trust USADA article" USADA had caught only 1 fighter in 46 fights. While VADA had caught 3 fighters in less than half fights. VADA continued to catch dopers and has now become the standard of testing in boxing.
Not to mention that in Cycling, Armstrong passed every USADA test. He was never caught by USADA.
NVSAC stated that it was "unprofessional and unacceptable" that they weren't immediately informed of the TUE.
sad to see you so desperate to create a story, lol.
I think USADA did their job, they tested the man before and after the IV and both results came back negative, plus they didn't have to notify NSAC with anything since IVs are allowed according to the NSAC, the only violation is the WADA code violation which USADA doesn't completely follow.
if NSAC didn't allow IV, why did NSAC say mayweather did nothing wrong?
if NSAC didn't allow IV, why have so many fighters spoken publicly about using IVs in nevada?
whose interpretation of the NSAC rules should we trust? maxi's? or the NSAC?
Well the NSAC director says USADA broke the rules, not me.
And this is just a bonus because I'm going to sleep....
In 2014, USADA disrecommended IVs for rehydration and linked it to PEDs masking. Leaving it only for extreme cases, and recommending oral rehydration as a superior way to rehydrate. Also stated that there was no science studies behind proving an IV could help to rehydrate better than oral mehods. LMAO.
http://www.usada.org/is-it-prohibited-or-dangerous-for-athletes-using-iv-infusions-for-re-hydration-and-recovery/
You're retard. :rofl:
It says they won't adopt the full WADA code. That means they won't follow all the rules. :dunce:
But it says they will continue to follow the banned substances and banned methods by WADA. Check mate son. Once again.
because the NSAC was doing damage control to distract people from the fact that IVs are allowed in nevada. only NSAC can grant an exemption to nevada rules, but what floyd did was allowed under nevada rules. so a nevada exemption wasn't needed. what was needed was a USADA exemption, since floyd & pac voluntarily agreed to regulations stricter than NSAC required.
but the situation exposed the fact that NSAC rules are behind the times. which is why the NSAC hemmed and hawed to sound strong in the eyes of the media & fans, hoping nobody would notice that NSAC rules are so weak that floyd was forced to hire an outside agency to make sure manny was clean.
doesn't make sense to you because you have no idea what you're talking about. the doping control officer that was there in person does not have the authority to approve anything. TUE has to be applied for so USADA can investigate, speak to the DCO, medical professionals, gather the facts, etc and determine if the use was legitimate.
that takes time. in this instance, a few weeks. which isn't uncommon at all.
Yeeeah right. It took them three weeks. How convenient.
Also, NSAC states that they were following WADA and USADA prohibited list which includes Substances and Methods, which prohibits IVs.
NSAC doesn't follow the WADA rules.
"The NSAC will continue to use the World Anti-Doping Agency's banned substance list but will refrain from adopting the full WADA code. The commission feels that allows it to modify certain elements of its drug-testing protocols specifically for combat sports.
As an example, the NSAC voted to add stimulants, such as cocaine, to its out-of-competition banned substance list, whereas WADA considers cocaine a banned substance only within 12 hours of an event."
http://www.espn.co.uk/mma/story/_/id/12893689/nevada-state-athletic-commission-amends-anti-doping-practices
They pick and choose what to follow.
They ADDED more restrictions, for example cocaine. In the same document, they stated:
2.We will continue to follow WADA’s Prohibited List, for both prohibited substances and prohibited methodologies.
Check mate.
Source is 2015 penalties recommendations by NSAC which is now going to "page not found" on it's website but you can read on the BoxingLasVegas website: http://boxinginlasvegas.com/penaltiesfines_guidelines_and_a.html
They don't follow USADA/WADA rules they follow their banned substances list. Saline isn't a banned substance. :dunce:
That video is UFC fighters talking about IV's being banned because they will be doing USADA testing. They were allowed to freely use IV's under NSAC. :dunce:
The "prohibited list" by WADA mentioned in NSAC rules doesn't only contain subtances. Is the list of banned substances and METHODS.
https://www.wada-ama.org/sites/default/files/resources/files/wada-2016-prohibited-list-en.pdf
PROHIBITED METHODS: MANIPULATION OF BLOOD AND BLOOD COMPONENTS
3. Any form of intravascular manipulation of the blood
or blood components by physical or chemical means
In the "prohibited list" by USADA, which is also linked in the NSAC page, and is the same than WADA, they also include the prohibited methods:
http://www.usada.org/substances/prohibited-list/athlete-guide/
Methods Prohibited At All Times (Both In- and Out-of- Competition)
M1. Manipulation of Blood and Blood Components
Blood doping, the use of red blood cells from any source, or otherwise artificially enhancing the uptake, transport, or delivery of oxygen, is prohibited. Any type of intravenous (IV) manipulation of the blood or blood components by physical or chemical means is prohibited.
Like MMA fighters openly admitting using IV's in Nevada? Until USADA took over testing and banned them.
So the NSAC says they are illegal because they follow WADA and USADA rules, but you post some random video with fighters saying they have used IV's and that proves that IVs are legal under NSAC?
Is that all you have? nothing.
They don't have the authority to grant a TUE for NSAC. Mayweather didn't need a TUE from NSAC because IV's aren't illegal under their rules. The TUE was only relevant to USADA and WADA. :dunce:
TUE approvals are granted by a panel of experts. They can't be granted on the spot. :dunce:
Do you have info about IVs being legal to NSAC?
All I could find is that they consider Illegal anything that WADA considers illegal:
http://www.leg.state.nv.us/NAC/NAC-467.html#NAC467Sec850
PROHIBITED ACTS; DISCIPLINARY ACTIONS
Any drug identified on the most current edition of the Prohibited List published by the World Anti-Doping Agency, which is hereby adopted by reference. The most current edition of the Prohibited List may be obtained, free of charge, at the Internet address www.wada-ama.org.
They also said they consider prohibited anything that USADA prohibits:
Question: Where can I find more information on allowable drugs?
USADA Guide to Prohibited List
USADA: IVs of more than 50 ml are prohibited
so?
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Im trying to research and I can't find anything about IVs being legal in the NSAC.
But what I do see is that if there's a TUE, it must be granted by the NSAC:
Question: What are the procedures for applying for a therapeutic use exemption (other than for T.R.T.) for an unarmed combatant in Nevada?
Answer: Unarmed combatants may apply for a therapeutic use for certain substances found on WADA's list of prohibited substances. If an unarmed combatant believes he or she has a therapeutic use for such a substance, he or she must apply for a therapeutic use exemption (T.U.E.). It is the responsibility of any licensed contestant, or contestant who may be seeking a license in Nevada, to apply for a therapeutic use exemption from the Nevada Athletic Commission. Failure to obtain a therapeutic use exemption for a prohibited substance that is detected after the fact will be considered a violation of NRS Chapter 467, which may be grounds for a disciplinary complaint if a contestant is already licensed, or denial of a license. For more information on obtaining a T.U.E., CLICK HERE.
Source: http://boxing.nv.gov/faq/sections/Drugs_Medications/
https://s30.postimg.org/phrq40otd/USADAs_Detailed_Correction_to_SB_Nation_Article.png
So my questions are:
1) Why is the NSAC saying that USADA didn't have the authority to grant a TUE? why is NSAC calling them unprofessional for doing so? how is it that an IV is not illegal by the NSAC, but the NSAC director is saying that it needs NSAC approval first?
2) Why did it take three weeks to USADA to approve the IV? It's not reasonable. It was approved instantly by the USADA people that was there with Mayweather, but officially it took them three weeks to grant a TUE? doesn't make sense to me, and doesn't make sense to NSAC. Don't play smart with me.
They did explain why in the response to Hausers article. Go look it up, instead of talking about something when you aren't informed.
Show it to me. I saw that when it came to Bennett's words, they didn't say anything about it. NOTHING. They replied with something that did not explain the NSAC's words. They didn't explain why THEY gave the TUE, and why it took three weeks for them to inform about it. Actually they confirm they informed about it on May 21st.
http://i.imgur.com/G9kU87x.png
http://www.usada.org/wp-content/uploads/USADAs-Detailed-Correction-to-SB-Nation-Article-by-Tom-Hauser.pdf
"I think they are probably one of the most ineffective and inefficient organizations in the world for the amount of money — and I'm not criticizing. It just is what it is — I'm not criticizing Travis or the organization.
"But if you consider a budget of $10 or $15 or $20 million a year, and then you lay that out over the testing results, which come back at ... 0.2% ... 0.7% come back as positive, we know that is not a realistic number. I don't know what the number is, whether it's 10 or 20 or 50, I don't know. But that tells you that that system is broken, too." --Lance Armstrong
http://www.businessinsider.com/lance-armstrong-criticizes-usada-travis-tygart-2016-3
They also said Mayweather did nothing wrong.
Of course. They can't blame Mayweather for anything. It's USADA who:
1) Granted a TUE when they were not allowed to grant TUEs.
2) Waited three weeks before informing the NSAC and Top-Rank.
Now they should explain why... So I guess the article Can boxing trust USADA was right in the sense that no, boxing can't trust USADA.