First off let me say that the dude is outstanding. An A+++ talent for sure. 100% blue chip boxer.
But can he ever become a legitimate PPV draw?
I got my doubts. Seems like the best path(s) to PPV stardom is to either be an unbeatable villain (Floyd), a bloodthirsty one punch KO machine (Tyson), or a likable all action fighter (Pacquiao, DLH). Of course the prerequisite for any PPV attraction is the fighter has to be an A+ fighter from a talent standpoint.
Loma has the A+ part down -- but he's not really an action fighter per se. He's more of a put on a boxing clinic type of guy. Which doesn't really seem to be a recipe to PPV stardom.
Personally I could watch Loma box circles around opposition every day of the week. That sh*t is beautiful to me. But the key to PPV stardom is luring in the casuals, and the casuals ain't about seeing a boxing clinic. They want to see vicious KOs and action packed rounds and dudes like Iron Mike talking about eating your children and sh*t. Now Floyd obviously wasn't a KO guy or an action fighter -- he showed that it could be done (becoming a PPV superstar) while putting on boxing clinics -- but Floyd played that villain role as good or better than anybody in the history of the sport.
So what's Lomachenko's avenue to PPV status? Or does he even have one realistically?
First off let me say that the dude is outstanding. An A+++ talent for sure. 100% blue chip boxer.
But can he ever become a legitimate PPV draw?
I got my doubts. Seems like the best path(s) to PPV stardom is to either be an unbeatable villain (Floyd), a bloodthirsty one punch KO machine (Tyson), or a likable all action fighter (Pacquiao, DLH). Of course the prerequisite for any PPV attraction is the fighter has to be an A+ fighter from a talent standpoint.
Loma has the A+ part down -- but he's not really an action fighter per se. He's more of a put on a boxing clinic type of guy. Which doesn't really seem to be a recipe to PPV stardom.
Personally I could watch Loma box circles around opposition every day of the week. That sh*t is beautiful to me. But the key to PPV stardom is luring in the casuals, and the casuals ain't about seeing a boxing clinic. They want to see vicious KOs and action packed rounds and dudes like Iron Mike talking about eating your children and sh*t. Now Floyd obviously wasn't a KO guy or an action fighter -- he showed that it could be done (becoming a PPV superstar) while putting on boxing clinics -- but Floyd played that villain role as good or better than anybody in the history of the sport.
So what's Lomachenko's avenue to PPV status? Or does he even have one realistically?
ODLH is actually a master class boxer (who put on clinics) in his own right and was a PPV star so it can be done. But it's a hard one for Loma because he doesn't really have a huge fan base so it's all about how to promote him in the right way. He has to learn and speak English fluently, keep winning obviously, right match-ups, and a catchy nickname that sells, like Pacquaio's "the PAC-MAN." It wouldn't hurt to market him to the big Hispanic/Latin audiences like Mexico and Puerto Rico, the Philippines is huge as well and possibly the UK. Wladdy Klitschko was very successful in Germany so there's that spot too.
Obviously not. Only way he could have been a PPV attraction is if he was Mexican. Low weightclass, boxing decline & eastern european makes it impossible for him to be a PPV star. I think he will be a popular fighter but only among hardcore fans. Nothing bad about that. Non PPV fighters still earn alot of money. Great for us fans to not have to buy PPV aswell
Too old to really have the audience grow with him at this point, and not a huge punch. And unless he moves up to face guys like Manny and Crawford (asking a whole hell of a lot there) he doesn't have the big name guys to go up against.
i don't think there'll be another ppv attraction in a long time, not even canelo, especially if he keeps ducking GGG, that'll keep hurting his reputation
I was thinking about that..Canelo's star power went down a bit,but once he fights GGG he will be back up,if GGG wins,then we will have another star,but other than that,boxing has no stars..why..Danny Garcia fighting not top tier opposition,Ward vs Kovalev,the vast majority thought KOv won,chocolatito is now talking about all he wants is to make lots of money,and nobody has the slightest idea who he is(why people has him on the P4P list beats me)keith has no charisma and no exposure,crawford's video bullying the body shop guy no bueno,broner,we all know he aint trying to kill himself,just his career,Pac is almost out,bradley and shoe shining no good,cotto fighting kirkland?..rigondiuex,boring and nobody wants to fight him,lara?nope..the list goes on and on(lets not talk about heavy weights please).That is why mcgregor got his boxing license,he thinks he can fullfill those shoes,and I am sure he will,getting low tier opossition in order to demand 300 mil to fight mayweather...one more thing,cards are filled with less than stellar fights and only the main event is kinda good..Make canelo vs GGG ,marquez vs pacquiao, loma vs salido cotto vs( im trying to think whom) kov vs adonis or rematch ward..do those,maybe even mixed them in same card...but nope,they trying to get money!
i don't think there'll be another ppv attraction in a long time, not even canelo, especially if he keeps ducking GGG, that'll keep hurting his reputation
No, but he can be a solid b-side for a PPV...that's why HBO is grooming him...like i've said before, HBO has wised up to the fact that boxing is broken....that's why they keep airing mismatch infomercials for their PPV's along with investing on affordable stars...
No, but he can have a very commercially successful career, probably maxing out at Golovkin's current popularity...which is great for a boxer.
I don't understand why Loma doesn't do one fight a year in Europe.
First off let me say that the dude is outstanding. An A+++ talent for sure. 100% blue chip boxer.
But can he ever become a legitimate PPV draw?
I got my doubts. Seems like the best path(s) to PPV stardom is to either be an unbeatable villain (Floyd), a bloodthirsty one punch KO machine (Tyson), or a likable all action fighter (Pacquiao, DLH). Of course the prerequisite for any PPV attraction is the fighter has to be an A+ fighter from a talent standpoint.
Loma has the A+ part down -- but he's not really an action fighter per se. He's more of a put on a boxing clinic type of guy. Which doesn't really seem to be a recipe to PPV stardom.
Personally I could watch Loma box circles around opposition every day of the week. That sh*t is beautiful to me. But the key to PPV stardom is luring in the casuals, and the casuals ain't about seeing a boxing clinic. They want to see vicious KOs and action packed rounds and dudes like Iron Mike talking about eating your children and sh*t. Now Floyd obviously wasn't a KO guy or an action fighter -- he showed that it could be done (becoming a PPV superstar) while putting on boxing clinics -- but Floyd played that villain role as good or better than anybody in the history of the sport.
So what's Lomachenko's avenue to PPV status? Or does he even have one realistically?
straight answer, no
He can. He has a great style, a great career trajectory of making big fights, and he has time on his side. He's only 28.
He needs to learn English ASAP. I know how hard it is to do in late 20s, but it should be something on top of his list. Nobody will accuse Kovalev of being a websters dictionary, but the man does get his point across - and it helps.
He can be if USA was as big of a boxing fans as the UK OR Europe boxing fans! Loyal to a t and almost always give a atmosphere at a fight!
Willing to travel as well!
Loma does have personality, check his recent interview with Michelle Joy Phelps where he speaks English and actually was quite funny!
I agree on some of your points tho', sad the kid has it all! The style, background story, accomplishments, and promoter!
Just needs to work on his English more, get a star opponents, and hope Mayweather kills the McGregor hype if they fight next year so it'll cool off the success of MMA where lots of combat sports fans are into instead of boxing!
There is no Morales & Barrera for him to beat. The best he can hope for is a Marquez. Becoming PPV star is almost unheard of for a non-American fighter and without star names to beat his chances are slim.
He can't. We all know skills don't always turn into popularity. He has no appeal, no charisma.
PS I love how you started your post. You have to make sure to clarify what you think of Loma. Cause god knows these insecure sissies will be quick to call you a hater or racist. :lol1:
no he can't be a PPV star esp since fights like Kovalev-Ward which features two P4P fighter's couldn't reach 200K and fights like Golovkin-Lemiuex which had the hardest punchers from 154-168 fighting each other and still couldn't hit 200K (some even say it only got 97K), than Lomachenko has no chance to be a PPV star
I think Loma is an action fighter, especially in his first pro fights, and he's really offensive-minded, even though he changed his style A LOT, adjusted to pro boxing and now he's more calculated and economical in his offense
Loma is not able to be PPV attraction, same goes to ALL fighters from Russia/ex-Soviet countries
There's no way to sell them to American audience, you can try to sell them in Europe but not in the States
Black Americans hates them because they would unconsciously associate them with White Anglos who opressed them throughout all American history, so they can't accept Russian/ex-Soviet fighters like they accept White Latin fighters
White americans hates them because they would associate them with Cold War rivalry, "I must break you" and all that Rocky 4 ****, and a lot of them would get patriotic, screaming "USA, USA" trying to turn everything into a politic debate
Not talking about ALL of them, I mean the majority of these groups
Now both of these group of people might try to deny it and argue with me, but deep down they know I'm right. You can say what you want, but you know I'm right. My reasons are not based on my insinuations, so there's no point in arguing
You can sell a Fillipino guy to an American audience, at least Phillipines never been the biggest cultural and ideological enemy of US, plus Manny can relate to all Asian American boxing fans in America
You can sell a Latin fighter to an American audience because they have a large Spanish fanbase in States to rely on
But you can't sell Russian/ex-Soviet boxer
Plus there's a language barrier
Actually, Lomachenko is made of superstar material, he has a charisma and humble personality when you hear his interview, he's more intelligent than most of boxing world, but that's only if you know his native language, for American boxing fans he's just another Euro robot with no charisma or any feelings because there's language barrier. You can sell that guy to Europe. In other words, he could have a great career but the environment for that isn't right
Plus he doesn't have a lot of time left either, Pac and Mayweather turned pro at young age, they were developing their pro careers for years. Lomachenko was prefering the amateur career. In this case, we're seeing an amazing boxer like Lomachenko who might be past his prime (I just assume that the prime version of Lomachenko was in his amateur career) and I assume that after he turns 30 it'll get harder for him to perform on the same level, considering that his style is based on reflexes it's logical to suppose that it'll get harder for him to slip punches like that in the future.
Plus UFC is taking more and more boxing fans with each year
I'm not hating, beause Lomachenko is ALREADY hall of famer and legend, considering his accomplishments in his amateur career and he might have a great pro career in the future, but I can't see him being the superstar of boxing who can attract ppv's