Andre Ward stock, am I being to harsh?

Previous to this fight I put Ward right next to Mayweather in terms of skills. But now I'm reconsidering cuz he really didn't have anything for Kovalev on the outside. His clinch game was his saving grace, albeit one that continues to straddle the line of what's legal and what's not. Dude has a long way to go before he reaches mayweather status.

I was a bigger fan before this fight. My stock has dropped a bit on Ward. "The fans know who won"--The entire crowd was rooting for you ward. I know he was smiling after the KD but he looked dazed abit, he has a good chin as he recovered. Also, Ward LITERALLY initiates a hold every single time he may not have momentum, HORRIBLE TO WATCH. He demonstrated no superior power shot advantage or jab, the only thing he was good at was taking a shot and slowing down kovalevs momentum at times. I felt kovalev out landed him slightly, and of course the KD was huge and clean. ALL my buddies are casuals and thought won the fight competitively, scoring round 4-12 basiaccly 50/50, making Kov the decisive winner. We were all just like, that's the last boxing PPV we ever order--On to the UFC permanently. I don't see how who ever is behind this could believe it's better for boxing. Ward is literally one of the mos boring fighters in the sport. I think floyd for example is MUCH more entertaining because he has way cleaner footwork and uses more of the ring offensively. Ward is the most disgusting poison I've ever watched. He makes Wladimir and Ruiz look like super skilled fighters. No one can enjoy watching that surely.

If his stock dropped then you don't think very highly of Kovalev. Well I favoured Ward to win and thought he would outbox Kovalev, and he didnt, and should of lost, so his stock dropped.

If his stock dropped then you don't think very highly of Kovalev.

I thought Kovalev deserved to win the fight so I do give him credit. He definitely has a case..lots of swing rounds

Ward has always been a dirty fighter and terrible to watch in my opinion. He grabs guys and holds them with one hand while he pounds away with the other hand.That's legal in the UFC but in boxing it's called holding and hitting and it's illegal. You can legally hit a guy who is holding you but you can't legally grab and hold a guy and pound away with the other hand. Hatton used to get away with that in England. Ward gets away with it because 90% of his fights took place in Oakland where he lives and can do no wrong. The ref didn't enforce the rules in the Ward vs Kovalev fight. If rules aren't enforced then those rules might as well not exist. You owe me green as ward did not get knocked out Pay me

Ward may have stolen a win in this fight but he also lost respect from a lot of fans and experts out there. For me, it's not more about the decision but rather about his performance, I've never seen ward hit with so many accurately jabs and power punches so consistently over a 12-round fight. Even the bumbling, stammering floyd sr. said it straight right after the fight without even flinching that ward is no p4p number one. no way, you could see in his face the disgust and total lack of respect for ward now. It's not just about the win, it's about how he look so ordinary in the most important fight of his life. Kovalev described ward as just a simple fighter not special one as many people believed. Why? Look at how many clean punches ward ate. It doesn't matter what the decision is, you still gotta earn respect at the end of the day.

Kov clinched alot as well. He tried to nullify alot of wards inside game by headlocking him stop being bias. I think that is exactly what made it difficult for Ward in the early rounds bcuz he couldnt bully around Kovalev on the inside, but as the rounds went on and Kovalev started to slow down, Ward came into rhythm and did alot of clean work, especially to the body

Kovalev pushed him to the limit, i think we are not giving Kovalev enough credit here I thought Kovalev deserved to win the fight so I do give him credit.

Ward has always been a dirty fighter and terrible to watch in my opinion. He grabs guys and holds them with one hand while he pounds away with the other hand.That's legal in the UFC but in boxing it's called holding and hitting and it's illegal. You can legally hit a guy who is holding you but you can't legally grab and hold a guy and pound away with the other hand. Hatton used to get away with that in England. Ward gets away with it because 90% of his fights took place in Oakland where he lives and can do no wrong. The ref didn't enforce the rules in the Ward vs Kovalev fight. If rules aren't enforced then those rules might as well not exist.

Ward has always fought with clinches. That's where he does his best work. His stock might have dropped but he proved a lot of people wrong that said he wouldn't be able to take the shots. Also the fight was close so it's justified that the scoring was a very close 114-113. You can make the justification that either fighter won because it's boxing.

ALL my buddies are casuals and thought won the fight competitively, scoring round 4-12 basiaccly 50/50, making Kov the decisive winner. We were all just like, that's the last boxing PPV we ever order--On to the UFC permanently. Also, why would anyone give a **** what your casual ass buddies think lol. Their opinion already doesnt count because they arent even real boxing fans.

His stock dropped because what? He wasn't fighting a p4p top 3 fighter I guess. He got hit hard opening the fight and recovered and made it a close fight. I'm confused, even if he lost, how did his stock drop in having s close fight with a dominant p4p champion at a weight where he's essentially the novice and smaller man.

I can't see how either of Ward or kovolev's stock falls after this fight.. Neither got "exposed" I agree, Kov started strong and Ward closed down the stretch like many expected. It was a great fight and the rematch is warranted for many reasons..

man, not one judge gave kovalev either rounds 9 or 10 LOL, that says it ALL, fixed all the way baby, made in vegas ward style, thats the way it is in boxing

Kov clinched alot as well. He tried to nullify alot of wards inside game by headlocking him stop being bias.

I can't see how either of Ward or kovolev's stock falls after this fight.. Neither got "exposed"

I don't think anyone can put Kovalev below Ward in the P4P lists. yes the can..Ward beat him

Kovalev pushed him to the limit, i think we are not giving Kovalev enough credit here

I don't think anyone can put Kovalev below Ward in the P4P lists.