"You better hope I stay retired"
Oh great. You are threatening a fight GGG wants but a few days earlier said you don't want a fight because you are retired. Much brave he is.
Who called GGG an ATG?
Even Abel never dared do something like that.
Abel did say that GGG is the best middleweight EVER. Its not the same as saying ATG but it's not far off either. Cause he's FAR from the best MW ever.
Who ducked Froch? Nobody
Who ducked GGG? Froch and countless other top fighters.
Enough said.
Calzaghe
Billy Joe Saunders and Canelo
^^^^^ Bwahahahahahaha so feared lol
GGG hasn't gotten the chance to have a career defining win yet. It would of been Canelo, but he ducked him. Jacobs would of been nice, but didn't he duck too?
The time will come, I'm sure.
And Froch wanted to fight Calzaghe...... boo ****ing hoo
And his career defining win would be against a cherry picker that's moving up in weight? That should have two or three losses on his record? Not the guys in the weight class above him? I think you mean the easiest fight for the most money which isn't the type if "defining" fight we want.
I've seen Lara, Trout and Cotto at least tie Canelo if not beat him. Floyd done it easily. Has he improved? Yeah a bit. Will GGG deserve P4P 1 for beating Canelo? Not a ****ing chance.
You can't compare fighters still learning to the finished product in the pros. :dunce:
You obviously can.
Olympic boxing is elite.
When you have 200 fights in ams, you're not a work in progress.
You can be a boxing legend without ever being a pro.
Savon or Stevenson were better boxers than many HW pro called ATG.
Who called GGG an ATG?
Even Abel never dared do something like that.
These forums , I dont believe it although he might be the point is he hasnt proved he can even beat an elite guy at MW or above .
I thought GGG lost to Dirrell?
They are 1-1 in ams.
They had a very close fight that GGG won in the olympics, and Dre got a gift home decision in an US tournament.
GGG would probably murder Direll mentally in a pro fight.
I literally have never heard a fighter get props for amateur wins until GGG came along..never!!!! you know why?? cause others fighters actually have great pro wins we talk about...who remembers who beat Tyson,Mayweather or even GGG in the Amateurs?? do you?
I obviously do.
Amateur is serious when you talk about Olympic or world championship tournaments.
That's definitely elite sport.
You should know about Felix Savon or Stevenson, both cuban are seen as boxing legends and never fought as pros.
They re boxing legends to most people except those who truly DKSAB.
The thing is Ward is the only " real challenge " for GGG simply because the MW division is very weak for him to be a atg in , GGG is not a young champion he needs to do something great , something that defines him , you guys think its knocking over title holders that wouldnt be top 5 in a different era , being great is about beating other ATGs and beating the very elite that is what defines fighters , its who you beat not the title they happen to hold .
GGG has fought one elite fighter and he was a WW , think about that when comparing him to other ATGs .
Who called GGG an ATG?
Even Abel never dared do something like that.
Preach bro! Definitely some good points, but Froch almost caught up on the scorecards, if he hadn't stopped Taylor, but just scored a KD, he would've won the fight on the cards - As far as I remember.
The Pascal fight too, was just such a crazy fight, might be one of the best fights of the last 10 years.
He was just unbelievably fanfriendly, fighting everyone.
Froch vs Pascal is an underrated fight, I saw that fight live in my living room. I thought it was closer than the judges had it but it was a really good fight and really the first fight where I was introduced to both fighters. Before that fight I had just heard of Froch talking up a storm about fighting Calzaghe and I just laughed at his resume because of how unknown he was and how thin his resume was
Who ducked Froch? Nobody
Who ducked GGG? Froch and countless other top fighters.
Enough said.
As far as I know GGG haven't moved up to 168 - "My dream is to unify all the belts."
Don't fool yourself, GGG will probably never move up.
Yeah, that's another good one. But he lost like 11 rounds against a guy who just came up from 160 amd was KO'ed down there. It was actually a good performance by JT and a bad performance by Froch, but a great come from behind TKO. The Bute performance was better because he destroyed Bute in all 5 rounds and Bute had a flawless record
Regardless, Froch fought 3 favored fighters and went 2-1 so whoever says Froch never proved himself or questions his resume in response to Froch/GGG beef are clearly just fans throwing Froch under the bus for the new flavor of the month who's yet to be in the undersog role and can't because his weight class sucks and he refuses to look for challenges elsewhere
Preach bro! Definitely some good points, but Froch almost caught up on the scorecards, if he hadn't stopped Taylor, but just scored a KD, he would've won the fight on the cards - As far as I remember.
The Pascal fight too, was just such a crazy fight, might be one of the best fights of the last 10 years.
He was just unbelievably fanfriendly, fighting everyone.
You know your resume is sh1t when people have to bring up amateur wins
I literally have never heard a fighter get props for amateur wins until GGG came along..never!!!! you know why?? cause others fighters actually have great pro wins we talk about...who remembers who beat Tyson,Mayweather or even GGG in the Amateurs?? do you?
Yep. It's really pathetic. Amateur wins. Smh.
I seriously doubt Dirtbag Sanchez, Tom Fulla **** Loeffler, and K2 would let Golden Goose Gennady faced a Prime, It's The Cobra!! Froch @ 168!
Likely would've had a cw @ 164 like he did SOG! Triple B aka Everyone From 154 -168!
Prime Froch gives him a pizza face and takes his aura of "boogeyman" and forever giving Gennady The BusinessMan cold sweats at nite whenev3r he sleeps!
Froch by TKO 11th by brutal fashion
Froch was #1 active Smw, p4p rated when he was offered 168 in the UK by Ggg. You know what the cobra said: swerve him like the plague
No the difference was that Froch was still fighting top level opposition unlike Triple B*tch.
So why are you complaining about a Ggg calling out a retired guy when Froch did it over and over, cretin?
Another difference, Ggg never said this about a smaller hypejob: swerve him like the plague, punches like a mule, dangerous fight
I seriously doubt Dirtbag Sanchez, Tom Fulla **** Loeffler, and K2 would let Golden Goose Gennady faced a Prime, It's The Cobra!! Froch @ 168!
Likely would've had a cw @ 164 like he did SOG! Triple B aka Everyone From 154 -168!
Prime Froch gives him a pizza face and takes his aura of "boogeyman" and forever giving Gennady The BusinessMan cold sweats at nite whenev3r he sleeps!
Froch by TKO 11th by brutal fashion
Frock is right.. Golovkin doesn't have the resume to backup the sh1t talk he is talking.. But Froch is no tag either.. At best he was the second best in his own division..
If stepping in the ring with Ward made him famous why didn't GGG want to become famous?
This doesn't answer your question but even Paul Smith and Brand fought Ward and lost.. It's not the same is it? So Froch = Brand in terms of being famous?
If stepping in the ring with Ward made him famous why didn't GGG want to become famous?
This doesn't answer your question but even Paul Smith and Brand fought Ward and lost.. It's not the same is it? So Froch = Brand in terms of resume?